"Further down you mention it's the Catholic Church -- actually it's not the church so much (there are honest Christians in that church) but it is the papal power with all its political, oppressive desire to control."-poster: dedication

Dedication,

Thanks for reminding me to use a correct terminology about the Catholic Church. Yes, I meant the papacy power that will be punished by the smoke. The fifth trumpet warns about it. The fifth plague poured upon the seat of the beast (the Papacy), which you have identified rightly as the papal power as follow;

"Before the darkness of the plague descends upon the seat of the beast, that Papal beast will appear as a bright saving (though false) light. The whole world will look to him in worshipful awe as the one to lead them out of chaos into peace."-poster:dedication

I believe that there are many martyrs of Christ in the system of the Catholic Church even right now as I have mentioned before. No wonder, they cry out "How long, O Lord," until their blood be avenged, in the fifth Seal - notice the FIFTH seal.

The fifth trumpet warns about the star that fell from heaven (the Satan) is going to sweep the world. The Satan is the king of Abbadon or Apollyon. This is the first woe. So urgent that the eagle is flying in the midst of the heaven to announce with a loud voice (8:13). The eagle signifies the power of God to save His people.

The Fifth Church, Sardis, is given the words: "Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die…Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard and hold fast, and repent…(3:2-3)".
Also, the fifth church was in the reformation Christian church period from the papacy.

I am more convinced in the application of the Seven Trumpets for the present and the future than the historical application.

I would like to summarize my viewpoint of the Seven Trumpets, which are the warnings about the coming seven plagues.
The sphere of the first plague is the EARTH as the first trumpet.
In the same way the second angel’s bowl of the plague links with the second angel’s trumpet, which affected the SEA.
The third angel’s trumpet affected the RIVERS and FOUNTAINS OF WATERS as the third angel’s bowl.
The fourth angel’s bowl is poured out upon the SUN, even as at the sounding of the fourth trumpet the third part of the sun was smitten, and “men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God…”

At the sounding of the fifth trumpet, we were told, “the bottomless pit was opened, and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace, and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit” (Rev. 9:2). This is judicial darkness brought about by demoniacal delusions. This parallels the darkness that filled the kingdom of the Beast when the fifth angel’s bowl of wrath is poured upon the seat of the Beast.

The sixth angel’s bowl poured upon the great river Euphrates that parallels with the sixth angel’s trumpet in the great river Euphrates that the four angels were loose. We are told that the three unclean spirits are gathering the world to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

The seventh angel’s bowl is poured out into the air and we are told, “It is done”. “The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ” (Rev 9:15) which declared in the Seventh Trumpet as foretold.

Amos 3:7 “Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets”.

Karen, if you are right, what difference does it make now? How can we use your interpretation to proclaim the 3AM?

ood question, Mountain Man. I believe that the Seven Trumpets of the Book of Revelation portrays the actions of Joshua at Jericho. After the Israelites crossed the Jordan the fortified city of Jericho was to overcome by marching around the Jericho once a day by sounding their trumpet for six days and then seven times on the final trumpet blast. “By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days” (Heb 11:30). Like Jericho, the spiritual Babylon the Great will also fall under the hand of modern priests (Num 10:8, 1Pet 2:9) who keep the commandment of God, and have the testimony of Jesus (Rev 12:17).

God’s people must awaken to His final plan to collapse the spiritual Babylon prior to entering the heavenly Canaan. I believe that the correct understanding of the Seven Trumpets will awaken the remnant church of God, and will seal them preceding the close of the probation. Then, the collapse of the Babylon the great will happen.
“God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect” (Heb 11:40).
Basically, the Seven Trumpets indicate that the close of the probation is imminent and the wrath of God will pour out in the Seven Plagues.
Just like the Israelites were trembling before Goliath (1 Sam Chap 17), the remnant church is so afraid and trembles before the power of the beast that also received strength from the kings of the earth (17:13). However, Rev 17:16 indicated that the ten horns (ten kings – 17:12) eventually will ‘hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire’ (17:16).
How can the gears of the kings of the earth shifted suddenly away from the whore unless somebody tells them the truth?
We are told what will happen in the Scripture, and God will surely perform. ‘By faith’ we must tell the world the three angel’s messages. We must have the spirit of David to face the conflict with the beast. 1 Sam 17:45, “Then said David to the Philistine, Thou comest to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield: but I come to thee in the name of the LORD of the hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom thou hast defied.”
The fact of the matter is that the three unclean spirits are so afraid of the truth of God that would be proclaimed by the church of the remnant they gather (or unit) together to battle for that great day of God Almighty (16:14).
The task for the God’s remnant church to face the united forces is so great and enormously unimaginable. Therefore, we are told to pray for the outpouring of the Spirit of God, the latter rain, just as the apostolic time for them to carry the commission of Jesus (Matt 28:19-20).

Who is the Remnant Church? Is it the Seventh-day Adventist Church?

They are the ones who keep the commandment of God, and have the testimony of Jesus (Rev 12:17). Do you know any denomination besides the SDA?

-----------------------------------------(10) New Heaven and New Earth
-------------------------------------(9) Reviewing the Judgment
-------------------------------(8) The Second Coming of Jesus
-------------------------(7) The fall of the Babylon
----------------------(6) Seven Plagues
-----------------(5) Expose the ID of Satan
-------------(4) Seven Trumpets
---------(3) Seven Seals
-----(2) Judgment prior to the Sealing
(1) Seven Churches

See how the seven churches usher into the church in heaven(22:16).
(1) The Seven Churches must go through the judgment of God in the heavenly throne room prior to sealing.
(2) Once the saints are sealed, they are the ones who will blow the Seven Trumpets.
(3) After the expose of the Satan's identity, the Seven Plagues will fall, which causes the collapse of the Babylon the great.
(4) Then, Jesus' second coming occurs. The redeemed saints will review the judgment of God during the millennium.
(5) New heaven and new earth will be made new.

You may discover how the development of the Book of Revelation presents the culmination in this way of overview. Obviously the function of the Seven Trumpets is for the future to warn the coming Seven last Plagues.
Without the fall of the Babylon, there will be no second coming of Jesus.
Without the sound of the Seven Trumpets, the Seven Plagues fall not.
Without the Seven Churches, there is no sealing.

The main body of the book of Revelation is divided into four sections of the sevens.
(1) The Seven Churches
(2) The Seven Seals
(3) The Seven Trumpets
(4) The Seven Plagues

(1) and (2) parallel together.
(3) and (4) parallel together.

Supplementary visions in the Book of Revelation

Seven Churches (Chap 1-3)
* Supplementary Vision (Chap 4-5)
Seven Seals (Chap 6-7)
*Supplementary Vision (Chap 7)
Seven Trumpets (Chap 8 – 11)
*Supplementary Vision (Chap 10-11:14)
*Supplementary Vision (Chap 12-14)
Seven Plagues (Chap 15-16)
*Supplementary Vision (Chap 17-18)
The Second Coming of Jesus (Chap 19)
Reviewing the Judgment (Chap 20)
The universe restored (Chap 21-22)

Take notice again the chapter outlines in the Book of Revelation(BoR).
Chapter 1 Introduction
2 - 3 Seven Churches
4 – 5 Throne scene
6 Seven Seals
* 7, 10 Interludes
8,9,11 Seven Trumpets
12 – 14 Exposing Identity of Satan
15 - 16 Seven Plagues
17 – 18 Fall of Babylon the Great
19 The Second Coming of Jesus
20 Reviewing the Judgment
21 - 22 New Heaven and New Earth(Conclusion)
* Interludes are given to emphasize or amplify the message

Messages concerning about:
Chap. 1 -7 the saints
Chap. 8 - 14 the wicked
Chap. 15 - 18 the most wicked
Chap. 19 - 22 the righteous

The BoR is supernaturally engineered with integrated message; making things clear for the interpretation with every details. However, knowing the overview keeps us focused how the events should develop.

-----------------------------------------(10) New Heaven and New Earth
-------------------------------------(9) Reviewing the Judgment
-------------------------------(8) The Second Coming of Jesus
-------------------------(7) The fall of the Babylon
----------------------(6) Seven Plagues
-----------------(5) Expose the ID of Satan
-------------(4) Seven Trumpets
---------(3) Seven Seals
-----(2) Judgment prior to the Sealing
(1) Seven Churches

See how the seven churches usher into the church in heaven(22:16).
(1) The Seven Churches must go through the judgment of God in the heavenly throne room prior to sealing.
(2) Once the saints are sealed, they are the ones who will blow the Seven Trumpets.
(3) After the expose of the Satan's identity, the Seven Plagues will fall, which causes the collapse of the Babylon the great.
(4) Then, Jesus' second coming occurs. The redeemed saints will review the judgment of God during the millennium.
(5) New heaven and new earth.

You may discover how the development of the Book of Revelation presents the culmination in this way of overview. Obviously the function of the Seven Trumpets is for the future to warn the coming Seven last Plagues.
Without the fall of the Babylon, there will be no second coming of Jesus.
Without the sound of the Seven Trumpets, the Seven Plagues fall not.
Without the Seven Churches, there is no sealing.

The main body of the book of Revelation is divided into four sections of the sevens.
(1) The Seven Churches
(2) The Seven Seals
(3) The Seven Trumpets
(4) The Seven Plagues

(1) and (2) parallel together.
(3) and (4) parallel together.

Supplementary visions in the Book of Revelation

Seven Churches (Chap 1-3)
* Supplementary Vision (Chap 4-5)
Seven Seals (Chap 6-7)
* Supplementary Vision (Chap 7)
Seven Trumpets (Chap 8 – 11)
* Supplementary Vision (Chap 10-11:14)
* Supplementary Vision (Chap 12-14)
Seven Plagues (Chap 15-16)
* Supplementary Vision (Chap 17-18)
The Second Coming of Jesus (Chap 19)
Reviewing the Judgment (Chap 20)
The universe restored (Chap 21-22)

Take notice again the chapter outlines in the Book of Revelation(BoR).
Chapter 1 Introduction
2 - 3 Seven Churches
4 – 5 Throne scene
6 Seven Seals
* 7, 10 Interludes
8,9,11 Seven Trumpets
12 – 14 Exposing Identity of Satan
15 - 16 Seven Plagues
17 – 18 Fall of Babylon the Great
19 The Second Coming of Jesus
20 Reviewing the Judgment
21 - 22 New Heaven and New Earth(Conclusion)
* Interludes are given to emphasize or amplify the message

Messages concerning about:
Chap. 1 -7 the saints
Chap. 8 - 14 the wicked
Chap. 15 - 18 the most wicked
Chap. 19 - 22 the righteous

The BoR is supernaturally engineered with integrated message; making things clear for the interpretation with every details. However, knowing the overview keeps us focused how the events should develop.

No. The SDA Church is the Remnant Church of prophecy.

Revelation 12:17 “And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
Only two worldwide churches exist in this world; The Papacy and the SDA (Seventh-Day Adventist).
The worldwide concepts portrays in the following verses: Rev 5:9, 7:9, 11:9, 10:11, 14:6, 13:7 and 17:15.
(1) Rev 5:9 “And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nations;”
(2) Rev 7:9 “After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;”
(3) Rev 11:9 “And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.”
(4) Rev 10:11 “And he sid unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.”
(5) 14:6 “And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people.”
(6) 13:7 “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.”
(7) 17:15 “And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.”

We are told that each worldwide concept denotes; (1)’ 5:9 – blood of Christ covers the whole humanity. (2)’ 7:9 –resurrection of the humankind. (3)’ 11:9 –Bible is given to humankind. (4)’ 10:11 –commission given to SDA. (5)’ 14:6 –SDA has the three angels message. (6)’ 13:7 –Papacy dominates the humankind. (7)’ 17:15 –Papacy identified.
As you see, there are only two distinct worldwide churches in this world: SDA vs. Papacy.
Only David went against the Goliath to win the battle between Israelite and Palestine.
Only SDA can go against the Papacy because we have the truth, the word of God!
This battle is the battle of the religions: the law of God vs. Satan’s altered ten commandments.
People with the word of God are stronger in the battle; many people will be joining the remnant people of God.
Here are the promises of God: Zechariah 8:23 “Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.” Isaiah 60:4,5 “Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side. Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.”