If so, then how do the Seals, plagues, etc. relate to the feasts?

Karen--"We must consider these Scripture verses:"

Heb. 9:8 "The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all …."
Heb 9:2-5 "For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary.
And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;
Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;
And over it the sherubims of glory shadowing the mercy seat; of which we cannot now speak particularly."


I do not see your point for those quotes in relation to what you quoted from me (?) Could you elaborate further? Try to explain why the two are at odds or tied in. Thanks

I think much of the subjects will be our study for the eternity in heaven.
However, the Seven Trumpets of the warning for the plagues have correlations which I have already shared in the forum discussion.

We are told to hear the voice of the trumpet (Rev 1:10) as it continues to leading us by the Holy Spirit. Notice, in Rev 4:1-2, 'which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me;….And immediately I was in the spirit….'

The Seven Trumpets are not the events but the sound of the warnings for the Plagues. May the Holy Spirit guide and help us to understand.

The SDA Church, through the Spirit of Prophecy (Ellen White), believes the Trumpets have a historical application.

Do you realize how your dismissal comes across?

Her comments sound fine to me.

I don't think that the Seventh Day Adventist Church has never had an official position on the SevenTrumpets.

The correlation between the Seven Trumpets and the Seven Plagues apparently indicate cause and effect.
The 7 TRUMPET-----------------The 7 PLAGUE
Upon the earth ------------------Upon the earth
Upon the sea--------------------Upon the sea
Upon the fresh water------------- Upon the fresh water
Upon the heavenly bodies---------Upon the sun
The star that fell from heaven------Upon the seat of the beast
Fire,smoke,brimstone------------- Upon the three identities
Now become the kingdom of God---It is done

It becomes more clear of the evidence in their correlation if we examine all the series of the seven.


7th Plague ==>> 7th Seal ==>> 7th Church ==>> 7th Trumpet
It is done------God's judgment---lukewarm church---The kingdom is Christ's
------------- has completed------------------------------------------
Voices,thun.,---half hour of------niether cold or----temple of God opened,
lightn.,hail,------silence-----------hot---------lightn.,voice,thun.,
earthquake,---calm before the storm--------------earthquake,great hail

The beginning and the ending of the Advent Movement are depicted in the series of the Sixth.

6th Church-------- 6th Seal------ 6th Plague-------- 6th Trumpet
Opens no one---- call upon the----upon the great----Loose the angels can shut--------mountains, rocks-- river Euphrates---in the Euphrates

Advent Move---The Day of the LORD--The kings of the--The probation end
ment---------the great day of wrath---- East come----no more mercy



The beginning and the ending of the Papacy are depicted in the 5th of the Seven series.


5th Trumpet------5th Plague----- 5th Church-------- 5th Seal
The fallen star----The seat of the---Say alive but dead--The blood under the altar
Satan brings------beast darkened---Reformation Era----The martyrs cry out
the beast out of ----------------------------------------------------
the bottomless pit---------------------------------------------------

The papacy originated from the fallen star. The seat of the beast portrays the Papacy which was darkened by the reason of the smoke. They desire to die but death shall flee from them. The two witnesses(the Word of God) cause them torment (Rev 11:10). The Papacy snatched the prayers of saints that depicted by the smoke(Rev 5:8). Thus, they deserve the wrath of God by the smoke (Rev 9:17,18).

The beginning and the ending of the Sun worship are depicted in the each 4th of the Sevens (Plague, Seal, Church, Trumpet).

4th Plague---- ----4th Seal------ 4th Church-------- 4th Trumpet
Rev 16:8-9--------Rev 6:7-8---- Rev 2:20---------- Rev 8:12

Sun scorching-----The Dark Ages--Jezebel brought-----heavenly bodies
global warming---killed with sword,---sun worship-----darkened(troubled)

The consequence of the Sun worship brought the plague that cause the sun to scorch hot. Even though plague falls, the wicked do blaspheme the name of God which is written in the 4th commandment. The 4th of the seven series has very much relevancy.

The first three plagues are poured upon the earth, sea, and the rivers and fountains of water which connected to the first three trumpets.

I agree with the statement that much of the subjects will be our study for the eternity in heaven. But I had asked her to support that trumpets are related to the feasts and as to why trumpets, which are also used not as warning but as a war cry, should be used as a warning here. Her casual dismissal turns it into a personal opinion which she does not support.

Ellen White believes the Trumpets have a future application.

Such as, Trumpet after trumpet will sound.