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Question: What do you do with Ellen White saying the trumpets have an application in the future?

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The Seven Trumpets are for God's people to prepare for the Anti-typical Day of Atonement. I believe that these messages should have all been blown ever since 1844 when Jesus entered the Most Holy Place in heaven.

We must consider these Scripture verses:


According to the book of Hebrews, the altar of incense is considered as a furniture of the Most Holy Place.
Therefore, a voice come from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God in the sixth trumpet should not be interpreted as only applicable to the holy place. The horns in the sanctuary portray mercy of God which you may find the allusion from the story of Ad-o-ni'-jah.
The command of the sixth trumpet is to 'loose the four angels' which they were holding the four winds of the earth in Rev 7:1. The four angels were commanded not to hurt until the sealing is completed (Rev 7:3).
At a point of time, the four angels will loose their hold which will occur suddenly. It will not take 391 years to obey the command of God.
The river of the Euphrates indicates a borderline of the edge.
The heavenly Cannan should be just a step way to enter when the sixth trumpet sound at the river Euphrates.
The number of horsemen of 200 millions indicate the angels of heaven that follow the white horseman, Jesus Christ. They have the powers to plague the wicked with the fire, the smoke and the brimstone. Notice that these are called 'plagues' in Rev 9:20.
The sixth trumpet, as well as all the others, portrays the imminent close of the probation which the remnant of the sealed saints must blow the warnings toward the world.

Since we are in the anti-typical day of atonement, you're saying all the trumpets are past history and have no future application?

By the way, you only use the code tags when you want something formatted specifically. If you want verses formatted a certain way, you need to do it before using the code tags. Letting it auto-wrap in the textarea window does not count as "formatting". You would need to hit the enter key where you wish. But why do that for verses? Just use the quote tags.

Unfortunately, the Seven Trumpets have not been blown by the commissioned saints because the message has not been understood correctly. It has been misinterpreted too long.
Therefore, all the seven trumpets have present and future application which is the warnings of the coming seven plagues.

Amos 3:7 "Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."

The major misunderstanding in the former understanding was not recognizing who the king of the north and king of the south is in Daniel 11.
James White had it right when he wrote the king of the North in the latter verses of Daniel 11 must be the same as the "feet" in Daniel 2, the horn in Daniel 7 and 8.

The king of the North is the political/religious power north of the Mediterranean.

Thus the king of the South is the political/religious power south of the Mediterranean which any historical map shows to be the Islamic nations.

When that becomes clear --
The trumpets are in agreement with Daniel eleven prophecy.

The struggle for dominion between two political/religious powers in our world in the post-Calvary era is between papal led Christianity, and Islam.

In the end -- neither win, for the dominion belongs to Christ who earned the right to win it back for mankind at Calvary.

At the pre-Advent judgment in Daniel 7 we see Christ being brought before the heavenly court and given the dominion.
Christ (as seen in Rev. 3:5) presents the names of all who overcome. And it is Christ and His redeemed that will (after the 1000 years of Rev. 20) inherit the earth and that dominion and kingdom will last FOREVER!

The trumpets focus in on this struggle of these two political/religious powers striving for dominion through out the "Christian" era, and indeed there will be one last major confrontation which we are sitting on the beginnings of right now -- the king of the north will appear to win and with the strength of the armies of the second beast of Rev. 13 and the 10 horns of the European states, subdue the king of the South, and try to force the whole world into Sunday worshipping unity. And they will use Palestine and Jerusalem as a major trump card to deceive the world into thinking the "antichrist" is being defeated and an earthly kingdom of peace will start (when the opposition is rooted out).

But it won't succeed for it will come to its end, Christ will deliver his people.

I am looking for somebody who can explain 'line upon line; precept upon precept' on the seven trumpets, especially the fifth and sixth trumpets.
How would you explain that the fallen star that has the key of the bottomless pit is, unless the Devil himself? The darkening of the air depicts the prince of the power of the air (Eph. 2:2), which is the Devil himself, causing the obscurity by the reason of the smoke. What could be 'the reason of the smoke'? The smoke is portrayed as the prayers of the saints. Who snatched the prayers of saints that must ascend to the throne of God? Like the Absalom who stole the hearts of the people from his father David, the beast ascended from the bottomless pit (Rev 17:8, 11:7) snatched the prayers of saints. God has commanded that His people who have the seal of God should not be touched and hurt by their demonic activities, which portrayed in the Rev 9:7-11. Their torments were the five months. This is the torture that they experienced because of the truth preached. Like the two witnesses 'tormented them that dwelt on the earth (Rev. 11:10), the SDA has been preaching the three angels messages five months (150 years from 1863 to 2014), which tormented the Papacy.
The fifth trumpet is depicted a strong delusions from the ‘angel of the bottomless pit’ whose name is Abaddon, or Apollyon.

Fifth trumpet:
THE struggle between truth and error has always been a bitter one. No great light has ever shone upon the earth for which the archenemy has not had a counterfeit. The first four trumpets deal with the Counterfeits brought into Christianity.
The three woes speak of another religious/political group claiming to worship the same God but also being a counterfeit – namely Islam.

THE FALLING STAR


Notice that both have a fallen star.
8:10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven,… the name of the star is called Wormwood

9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth


In Revelation 12, it says there was a woman who had twelve stars above her head. These stars represented the leadership of the church. (12 apostles, some say the 12 patriarchs)

Stars represent leadership in the Bible. You can read about Paul’s ship journey in Acts 27 where for fourteen days the stars were obscured and they didn’t know where they were. People depended on literal stars to guide their ships, etc.

The seven stars in Jesus hand in Rev. 1 are called the seven angels or messengers to the seven churches. This is generally understood to refer to the leaders of the seven churches, for John is told to write letters to them, and they of course would read the letters to their congregations.

So a star is a religious leader – possibly even the founder (as the twelve stars of Rev. 12) of a religious movement.
A falling star tends to imply this leader is looked to for truth and has a measure of heavenly truth, but is fallen in grave error.

Thus a falling star fittingly represents the papacy in the first reference, and Mohammed in the second reference. Both are looked to as divine guides of truth in their respective group.

Of course, satan is chief fallen star behind all these counterfeit movements.

9:1-2 To him was given the key of the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

THE KEYS
We know that Jesus holds the keys. He limits the level to which evil can arise. Nothing happens without Jesus giving the key to loosen the forces of evil so they can demonstrate their character.

THE BOTTOMLESS PIT
The bottomless pit refers to dwelling place of evil spirits.

So the founder of the Islamic religion sought truth in a cave. While there he was visited by a mighty angelic being who dictated the Koran to him, and physically man handled him to get him to "recite".
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THE SMOKE

There arose a smoke out of the pit.
The smoke here cannot represent the prayers of the saints for it arises out of the pit. This is Satan counterfeiting the smoke that is Christ’s censor, it is a counterfeit.

This great smoke of the Bottomless Pit was not accompanied by any light. There was no light. Notice, Satan's unholy smoke came from below. But from those not grounded in truth, it might be difficult to tell the counterfeit from the real.

From his encounters with spiritual forces in a cave near Mecca, Mohammed came forth with a new religion. In opposition to the forms and ceremonies of the numerous worshipers who congregated at Mecca, and to the professed Christians who revered the images of saints and martyrs, the simple principles of the new religious leader called for prayer, fasting, submission to god, and alms. Five times a day, his followers all over the world turn their eyes toward Mecca, and lift their hearts in prayer.

The Bible of the Christians was replaced by the Koran. True, the simple faith and austere practices of the Mohammedans were, to all outward appearances, a reform over the apostasy of the Greek Catholics; but in the rejection of Christ as Savior and Lord, the rapid growth of the Islamic religion darkened the “sun of righteousness”( Mal 4:2) who alone could offer them healing.

THE AIR

The “air” is the carrier of sound, especially of voices and messages (see Rev. 16:17) Thus the air was “darkened” carrying a false message.