I conceded above that based on the summary data posted by NASA, there is no correlation between eclipses and major historical events such as the rise and fall of world empires as set out in scripture. I'd like to add one more qualifier to that: Blitz and Hagee are applying Joel to the tetrad where it says: They claim that significant events have happened to the Jews during the tetrads between the fifteenth and 21st centuries. These points are doubtful because there is no consistent pattern.

But I don't fault them for believing that Joel 2:31 may apply and the return of Christ may be soon. As Adventists that should resonate with us. It's in our name. During this tetrad the moon does have a bloody appearance, the sun will be eclipsed in between as well. And as this is the only time since the crucifixion if not longer that the tetrads fall on the feasts and synchronize with the end of a Sabbatical (see earlier posts on the link between the Sabbatcials and the judgment of God's people) - applying Joel 2 in this way is not such a stretch.

And when you add to that the evidence compiled by Cahn, for example that the stock market's biggest single day losses occured on the last day of the last two Sabbaticals and a host of other divine "coincidences" surrounding 9/11 that also happened at the end of a Sabbatical and the scripture Cahn uses to point to 9/11 as a harbinger of the sounding of a louder warning this fall because we as a nation have not repented, at a minimum, I wouldn't mock at the message.

The reckoning of the timing of the month by modern Jews is scriptural in my opinion. It's a mathematically calculated average of the sighting of the visible new moon rather than the astronomical conjunction. In contrast to the reckoning of the months, the modern Jews are not always scriptural in their calculation of the feast days but in 2014 and 2015 they are right in my opinion.

Ah - First Fruits is only the first Sunday after passover IF Passover happens at the right time. The day on which Passover falls changes from year to year, and thus First Fruits is not always a Sunday! The belief that Sunday is honored because of the resurrection ignores the calendar of the feasts. Same with the idea that Pentecost is always a Sunday ignores the calendar of the feasts.

There's been an ongoing debate among the Jews and also among Christians for centuries on the timing of the Feast of Firstfruits. I agree with the Karaite Jews that according to Lev 23 and other texts, Firstfruits and Pentecost are always on Sunday, that Sunday was observed before the temple was destroyed but that some knowledge of the proper timing of the Feasts was lost afterwards. I looked into this a few years ago and I put my thoughts down in a couple of my ebooks.

Well, it didn't in October. At least not for me. Does only one of the four need to appear "bloody", or all four, or the first, or the last? Does it need to appear so all over the world, one hemisphere, or nearby volcanic eruptions so to give it a reddish cast?

I could not decipher if the tetrads are worldwide or only most of the U.S. and maybe some of Europe.

I'm sorry, but I have a hard time seeing what the stock market has to do with Sabbaticals. One could say it was a forced forgiving of debts, but I believe reality is more people went into (or further into) debt!

Buildings being blown up, people's money not worth so much may indicate one thing, but eclipses coinciding or some ancient Sabbatical coinciding doesn't seem like it could indicate anything to me.

Mathematical average calculations are scriptural?

Except the full moon would be related to conjunction, right? And therefore, if the new moon is reckoned by sighting, then the full moon cannot be on the 15th, right?

(That it would have to be on the 17th or 18th.)

Personally I think the signs forcast in Joel involve something different than the normal recurrence of eclipses.

That said -- I do believe we are in the end of time.

It just seems the futurist crowd is trying to use something quite natural to support their prophetic interpretation which centers on the Jews in Jerusalem and Christ coming to set up a temporal 1000 year kingdom in present day Jerusalem over there in Palestine.


Tetrads (four complete moon eclipses in a row) are fairly commong. Here is a list of them.
They are all tetrads, though only the ones typed in red have all four falling on a feast day. I checked a few of the other ones out and often one or more does fall on a feast day, but not all four.

Also checked some other eclipses where FOUR in a row did all fall on feast days, but one or more of the four were not full eclipses.

According to NASA this century is due for a lot of tetrads (four consecutive total moon eclipses) though not necessarily on a feast day, the most tetrads there has been in all of AD!!


This century:

1. Tetrad: 2003 - 2004

2. Tetrad: 2014 - 2015

3. Tetrad: 2032 - 2033

4. Tetrad: 2043 - 2044

5. Tetrad: 2050 - 2051

6. Tetrad: 2061 - 2062

7. Tetrad: 2072 - 2073

8. Tetrad: 2090 - 2091




Last century there were:

1. Tetrad: 1909 - 1910

2. Tetrad: 1927 - 1928

3. Tetrad: 1949 - 1950

4. Tetrad: 1967 - 1968

5. Tetrad: 1985 - 1986


There were no tetrads in the 1600 - 1800


The 1500's there were six:

1. Tetrad: 1504 - 1505

2. Tetrad: 1515 - 1516

3. Tetrad: 1522 - 1523

4. Tetrad: 1533 - 1534

5. Tetrad: 1562 - 1563

6. Tetrad: 1580 - 1581

That was the reformation period ! Great light and fierce persecution.


The 1400's had four:

1. Tetrad: 1428 - 1429

2. Tetrad: 1457 - 1458

3. Tetrad: 1475 - 1476

4. Tetrad: 1493 - 1494




The 1300's had six:

1. Tetrad: 1305 - 1306

2. Tetrad: 1323 - 1324

3. Tetrad: 1341 - 1342

4. Tetrad: 1352 - 1353

5. Tetrad: 1370 - 1371

6. Tetrad: 1399 - 1400




And then we don't have any at all till the

900's when we have six again:

1. Tetrad: 918 - 919

2. Tetrad: 936 - 937

3. Tetrad: 947 - 948

4. Tetrad: 965 - 966

5. Tetrad: 976 - 977

6. Tetrad: 994 - 995




The 800's had seven:

1. Tetrad: 802 - 803

2. Tetrad: 813 - 814

3. Tetrad: 824 - 825

4. Tetrad: 842 - 843

5. Tetrad: 860 - 861

6. Tetrad: 878 - 879

7. Tetrad: 889 - 890




The 700's had three:

1. Tetrad: 766 - 767

2. Tetrad: 784 - 785

3. Tetrad: 795 - 796




The 600's none.




The 500's none -- Though 534-535 had a four eclipse sequence all falling on feast days BUT were not all total eclipses



The 400's had three:

1. Tetrad: 408 - 409

2. Tetrad: 437 - 438

3. Tetrad: 455 - 456




The 300's had four:

1. Tetrad: 332 - 333

2. Tetrad: 350 - 351

3. Tetrad: 361 - 362

4. Tetrad: 390 - 391




The 200's had six:

1. Tetrad: 227 - 228

2. Tetrad: 238 - 239

3. Tetrad: 245 - 246

4. Tetrad: 256 - 257

5. Tetrad: 267 - 268

6. Tetrad: 285 - 286




The 100's had three:

1. Tetrad: 162 - 163

2. Tetrad: 180 - 181

3. Tetrad: 198 - 199

The meteor shower of 1833 was also natural but according to EGW it fulfilled prophecy.

Futurist crowd?

The Lord is full of innovation. If a natural phenomena will work to bring conviction and win souls to righteousness, he'll do it.

I don't doubt the power of God or the leading of the holy Spirit, however, there is another "false prophet" active according to Revelation in the last days, who will use signs and wonders to deceive if possible the very elect.

I actually have the book "Four Blood Moons" by John Hagee. I got it because it sounded important, but upon reading it, it was very apparent everything concerning the eclipses was geared to promoting the futurist interpretation of Prophecy.

I don't believe the blood moons are signs that fulfil those prophecies.

It's more likely they are warnings NOT to accept those interpretations.

The Moon looks red

Even though the Earth completely blocks sunlight from directly reaching the surface of the Moon, the Moon is still visible to the naked eye during a total lunar eclipse. This is because the Earth's atmosphere refracts sunlight and indirectly lights up the Moon's surface.

What is Earthshine?

The Earth's atmosphere, removes or blocks parts of the sunlight's spectrum leaving only the longer wavelengths. Because of this, a totally eclipsed Moon usually looks red.

Total lunar eclipses happen only when:
◾The Sun, Earth and Moon are in a straight line.
◾There is a full Moon.


Source: timeanddate.com