I'd go along with that, maybe things will start this year, but if not, maybe next year.
But it doesn't. That's what I've been trying to say, and I thought you agreed at your previous posts. There is no "blood" moon. There is a dim or dark moon. The same color or lack of color as occurs in other arbitrary numbers of sequences other than "four". It doesn't "coincide" except only partially in some places. And "tetrad" seems to be an arbitrary thing. For instance, if it's 4 eclipses in a row, consider 2018/2019.
http://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/list.html
But someone decided that there should be 6 months between them.


No, not really. I understand Jerusalem won't even see the eclipse. Eastern US will only see a partial eclipse for a very short time.
http://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/in/usa/charleston-wv
In fact, April 4 is called a "partial lunar eclipse" and not "total".
http://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/list.html

That could very well be true. But nothing to do with eclipses, an arbitrary number of eclipses, nor an arbitrary number of eclipses falling on certain days on certain parts of the world, of which Jerusalem, Africa, Europe... is not included.

Actually, I see that 6 months between is part of why they would be in a row. Still, consider 2018/2019. 6 months apart. Just the partial is "more" partial than in 2015. Is it a matter of quantifying partiality?

Kland, according to the US Naval Observatory, (the leading authority on astronomy besides NASA in North America) the April 4, 2015 lunar eclipse is total: http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/eclipse/L2015Apr04.pdf. It will be seen as total in Hawaii, Alaska, New Zealand, eastern Russia, parts of Asia and Australia and as a partial eclipse across North America and much of Asia.

I learned just now from the same site that a total solar eclipse will occur March 20, 2015, about sixty days from now. Here's a map of it's coverage: http://astro.ukho.gov.uk/eclipse/0112015/. The evening of March 20 is Nissan 1, the start of the Sabbatical year. It would be interesting to know how often a total solar eclipse occurs at the eve of a Sabbatical year with a tetrad falling on the feasts. This eclipse will be visible as a partial eclipse across most of North Africa, Europe, the Middle East and Northern Asia.

I also learned that another partial solar eclipse will occur on the eve of the Feast of Trumpets, September 13, 2015. http://astro.ukho.gov.uk/eclipse/0322015/. This one is visible in the southern part of Africa and the southern Indian Ocean.

Regarding your comment Kland that the lunar eclipse this March isn't visible from Jerusalem, since the day of grace for Jerusalem ended in 31 AD on Nissan 10 (see my first post on my Nissan 10 thread and reply there Kland if possible), the signs in the heavens aren't restricted to the modern Jews or a physical location. The signs are for the scattered people of God around the globe. The dark day and the falling of the stars in 1833 were not limited to the Middle East right?

The dragon gave his seat to the first beast in Chap. 13. "And the beast which I saw was like ufo a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority." Rev. 13:2

Jesus has revealed to us that He knows "where Satan's seat is" (Rev. 2:13). The fallen star, Satan, has his seat at the Papacy whom the world "worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? (Rev. 13:4).

What is the great and final Armageddon conflict? Why is the three unclean frog-like spirits come out of the mouths of the dragon, the Beast, and the false prophet?

Isn't the Armageddon conflict where the unclean spirits meet one another in an attempt to settle the final issues?

We are told that the demonic delusions already unleashing the world into darkness of the fifth trumpet and intensifies in the sixth trumpet. The Devil and his agents have their purpose to deceive the nations and all the nations say "who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?" (Rev. 13:4).
Their individual name is Abaddon or Apollyon (Rev. 9:11), but in their union their name become Armegeddon. (Rev. 16:16).

With this in mind, if we collect all the various meanings in the Old Testament that have been attributed to the word “Armageddon” we may observe the meaning of the battle of Armegeddon.

Notice that the battle of Armageddon occurs by the river Euphrates (Rev. 16:12). The king Josiah was killed in the Meggedo by the river Euphrates. (2 King 23:25,29). Thus, the Armageddon and Meggido interrelated by the river Euphrates.

We also may discover that the valley of Megiddo is interrelated with valley of Jehoshaphat. Thus, the Armageddon is interrelated with the valley of Jehoshaphat too.

Zechariah 12:11 “In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mouring of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.” Zechariah 12:11 describes Megiddo as a “valley.”

There is a triangular correlation between the Armageddon-Meggido-Jehoshaphat.


Joel 3:2 “I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.” "Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about." Joel 3:2, 12 describes “valley” of Jehoshaphat as a place of “judgment”.

"Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision." (Joel 3:14)

King Josiah also died Megiddo, when he oppose Pharaoh Neco. This is the reason why there was “a great mourning in Jerusalem” (Zech. 12:11).
2 Chron. 35:22 “Nevertheless Josiah would not turn his face from him, but disguised himself, that he might fight with him, but disguised himself, that he might fight with him, and hearkened not unto the words of Necho from the mouth of God, and came to fight in the valley of Megiddo.”

2 King 23:25, 29 “And like unto him was there no king before him, that turned to the LORD with all his heart, and with all his soul, and with all his might, according to all the law of Moses; neither after him arose there any like him. In his days Pharaoh-nechoh king of Egypt went up against the king of Assyria to the river Euphrates: and king Josiah went against him; and he slew him at Megiddo, when he had seen him.”

Egyptian king, Pharaoh Necho, was determined to wage war against Assyria. The Egyptian army marched to attack the Assyrian army but the King Josiah went against the Pharaoh. Necho said that he was sent by God to fight against another army. King Neco also informed King Josiah that he should not interfere with his battle plans because the Lord was on his side and demanded that he go through the land peacefully. In the plains of Meggido the king Josiah was killed, which mourned by the entire people of God. King Josiah is "type" of people of God in the last day.
John 16:2 "They shall put you out of the synagogues: yes, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service."

We are told that the judgment of God took place in a valley of Jehoshaphat and God delivered Israelite from the children of Moab, and Ammon, which was by the river of Euphrates. As a result, this significant event changed the name of the Meggido to the valley of Jehoshaphat.

In the battle of the Armeggedon the three unclean spirits will unite 1). to kill God’s people, which the king “Josiah” was “type” and 2) to oppress God's people but God will rescue His people by bringing His judgement to bear on them.

“Satan has long been preparing for his final effort to deceive the world. ... Little by little he has prepared the way for his masterpiece of deception in the development of Spiritualism. He has not yet reached the full accomplishment of his designs; but it will be reached in the last remnant of time. Says the prophet: I saw three unclean spirits like frogs; ... they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty." Except those who are kept by the power of God, through faith in His word, the whole world will be swept into the ranks of this delusion. The people are fast being lulled to a fatal security, to be awakened only by the outpouring of the wrath of God.” (Great Controversy, pp. 561-562)

Judges 5:19 “The kings came and fought, then fought the kings of Canaan in Taanach by the waters of Megiddo; they took no gain of money.”

There was “no gain of money” in the Megiddo. We must consider what this might mean in the battle of Armegeddon. The world is in a great battle of economy without boundaries or weapons of war in these days. Many people attempt to rise to the top to gain money. However, in the battle of Armeggedon, the Scriptures teach us that the Satan has reached his full accomplishment to deceived masterfully that there will be no gain of money at the end. "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred three-score and six." (Rev. 13:18). The Papacy has almost all the gold of the world and they can manipulate the "gain of money" to nothing. They use IBRD (International Bank for Reconstruction and Development) and IMF (International Monetary Funds) to control and to enforce the mark of beast to all the world.

Those who tries to make money unaware of the scheme often end up in the casualty in the battle field of this Armeggedon by suicide in their hopelessness. We must watch and pray that we may "escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man." "And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares." (Luke 21:36, 34)

1) Megiddo-----alluded in Rev 13 - the beast powers oppress God's people with powers of economy, religion, politic.
2) Jehoshaphat----- alluded in Rev 14 - three angels messages (Judgment)
3) Armageddon -----spiritual battle in Rev 16 - gathering the kings of the earth

What kind of events occur in Migeddo/Armageddon?
1') Megiddo------Rev 13:16; the mark of the beast enforced /unable to buy or sell
2') Jehoshaphat-------Rev 14:7; call to worship the Creator/hour of judgment has come
3') Armageddon------Rev 16:16;Activities of three unclean spirits/kings of the earth gathered together into a climax battle of Armageddon with God's remnant.

The real battle is about the Seal of God and the Mark of the Beast.
The purpose of the harlot is:
1) in Rev 13 is to give the mark of the beast on forehead and hand.
2) in Rev 14 is to hinder the true worship of God that is portrayed by 3 angels messages.
3) in Rev 16 is to make their powers strong to come against SDA by gathering the kings of
the earth.
The harlot attempts:
1") Rev 13 -- Economy; caused all to receive mark of the beast not the Seal of God

2") Rev 14 - Judgement; harlot is against the commemoration of creation and salvation of God
3") Rev 16 - Three religious powers united in bundles(Matt 13:30) but to receive the plagues.

The shadows of Armageddon are overspread the earth already. They gathered them together into the situation that is called in the Hebrew, Armageddon. Let us proclaim the sound of the Seven Trumpets that the inhabiters of the earth may escape the last plagues!

The Armageddon battle is a spiritual warfare in the “valley of decision”.

Are we there yet at the “Mount of the Megiddo” where 1) the oppression of people on the earth; 2) the judgment of God in progress in heaven; and 3) the three unclean spirits are in union together?

What are we waiting for while the fullness of the sixth plague is almost poured out upon the earth? Are we waiting for the Sunday Law to come? The Seven last Plagues are already falling upon the earth! The Sunday Law will arrive upon the inhabiters of the earth because of the plagues. We must set the messages in the right order.

“The wicked thought that we had brought the judgment upon them, and they rose up and took counsel to rid the earth of us, thinking that then the evil would be stayed.” (EW 33.2).

The wicked enforce the mark of beast to “rid the earth of us” because the Seven Plagues are falling. “Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.” (Luke 21:26). The wicked think that the evil would stop if they get rid the earth of us with the mark of the beast.

1)Megiddo --- economy issues in the battle (economy turmoil)---present event
2) Armageddon--- threefold religious union of the unclean spirits---present event
3) Jehoshaphat ---God's judgment in heaven-------------present event

Rev. 18:4 "…Come out of her, my people, that ye be not prtakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."

"These plagues are not universal, or the inhabitants of the earth would be wholly cut off. Yet they will be the most awful scourges that have ever been known to mortals. All the judgments upon men, prior to the close of probation, have been mingled with mercy." Maranatha pg. 267

"Solemn events before us are yet to transpire. Trumpet after trumpet is to be sounded, vial after vial poured out one after another upon the inhabitants of the earth. Scenes of stupendous interest are right upon us." Maranatha pg. 257

The time is short. We have no time to lose! Let the church wake up with the Seven Trumpet sound!

Seven Thunders

What are the seven thunders? We are told that it was as loud voice “as when a lion roureth” (Rev. 10:3).

There was a “noise of thunder” in Rev. 6:1 because one of the four beasts, which were depicted as a lion, has roared.

Rev. 4:7 “And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.”

Why did the first beast of the lion roared in the first seal? Isn’t the first seal portrays Apostles preaching the coming of the Lord Jesus and resulted “to conquering, and to conquer”? (Rev. 6:2).

Their proclamation of the Second Coming of Jesus was indeed like “noise of thunder”, which is also the blessed hope for the successive Christian Eras.

The Seven Thunders has appeared between the sixth and the seventh trumpet to illustrate the importance of discovering the Sabbath truth in the Advent Movement that roared like thunders.

This company was given a commission to restore the Sabbath truth that said, “Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.” (Rev. 10:11).

The noise of the thunders has voiced every period of the seven churches, especially at the time of 1844, which soared their hope.

Nevertheless, the angel instructed John not to write the noise of the Seven Thunders of hope of the Second Coming of Jesus. It was not the time yet.
Not until, “But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants thy prophets.” (Rev. 10:7).

Remember, what Jesus has said,
Matt. 24:36 “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.”

“The mystery of God” (Rev. 10:7) is the time of the Second Coming of Jesus, which was “declared to his servants thy prophets” already. It wa s just not yet his coming point at the Chapter ten experiences. Thus we know that why we are told, “seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.” (Rev. 10:4) until re-prophesy the last message.

The Seven Thunders will be known when “in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. “ (Rev. 10:7), (Amos 3:7).

Early Writings pg. 34.1 “And as God spoke the day and the hour of Jesus’ coming and delivered the everlasting covenant to His people, He spoke one sentence, and then paused, while the words were rolling through the earth. The Israel of God stood with their eyes fixed upward, listening to the words as they came from the mouth of Jehovah, and rolled through the earth like peals of loudest thunder.”

Why blow the Seven Trumpets?

Rev. 17:16 “And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.”

Who is going to hate the whore? The whore who sits upon the beast is the Pope.

What? The ten horns will make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire? I thought they were friends!

Rev. 17:12-13 “And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.”

The ten horns, which are the ten kings of the earth, will change their mind about the whore; now they became enemies! Who made them change their minds?

What is meant that they will make her naked? Are they going to expose their top secrets to the world? Are they going to kill the Pope? Isn’t the destiny of the Pope is definite now?

My question is who made the ten horns and the beast to change their mind about her?

I believe the faithful few, the 144,000!

Rev. 17:14 “These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.”

The “called” and “chosen” are passive action but the “faithful”is active part of the person.

Deut. 32:30 “How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight, except their Rock had sold them, and the LORD had shut them up?”

Joshua 23:10 “One man of you shall chase a thousand: for the LORD your God, he it is that fighteth for you, as he hath promised you.”

Nothing to fear but just blow the Seven Trumpets! Evil will destroy evil!

1 Sam. 17:47 “And all this assembly shall know that the LORD saveth not with sword and spear: for the battle is the LORD’s, and he will give you into our hands.”

So would you say the trumpets end after the close of probation? Otherwise, what would this mean to you?