Can we say that anything in the Bible is not important?

Even the slightest thing can affect our understanding of the fall of Adam and the Plan of Salvation.

I understand that it wasn't until Adam also sinned that the fall of the human race was complete, therefore, the manner in which he sinned is of the greatest importance.

1 - If he had been there with Eve, then was he also deceived by the serpent as Eve was and ate the forbidden fruit at the same time as Eve?

2 - If he were not there with Eve, then was he then deceived by Eve herself and ate the forbidden fruit later?

3 - Or, in both scenarios, did he knowingly sin by eating the forbidden fruit then or later? If he knowingly ate it, then why did he knowingly eat it?

4 - Who had the greater sin, the one who was deceived into sinning, or the one who knowingly sinned?

Cedric,

You would be surprised the number of Bible Scholars who also agree with the Sabbath over the Sunday issue, but then that's another topic that I might very well create elsewhere.

Daryl,

I am not sure you understand my question. I am not implying that this detail of the story is unimportant or that anything in Scripture is unimportant. But things do have different levels of importance and for different reasons.

I ask the question to try to see why you think this is an important point of the story. Given the clear implication of the phrase "with her" I wonder why the two 17th and 18th century Biblical commentators seemed to feel a need to qualify this detail to suggest that Adam was not "with her" at the time and place of the events described. (Notice that Wesley uses exactly the same words as Henry.) Why does EGW pick up this detail that is very consistent with long held tradition within the church predating these two reformers.

Why is it important to distinguish the actions of Eve from those of Adam? How does it effect our undertanding of the origins of sin, salvation, mankind, and our relationship to one another and to God. Does it really make an essential difference on any of these points?

Tom

Tom,

Perhaps, answering my questions in that post will also answer your's?

Mike:

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Originally posted by Mike Lowe:
No comparison. There is nothing ambiguous or uncertain about the fourth commandment.

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It's not an issue of comparison. (Which makes me wonder if you are even aware of the arguement for Sunday worship.)

This topic is NOT about the Sabbath, therefore, any future posts about the Sabbath in this topic will be removed.

Well spoken. Let's be fair all around.

(If you do move them, please put them somewhere where I can participate. )