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Re: Human Nature, Neuroscience, and the Soul
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06/07/15 06:41 PM
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Do you believe in a soul that is separate from the Body? The dilemma posed before Paul in 1 Cor. 15 was this: when a man dies, his body decays into dust and is no more ... like an egg that is smashed and broken to pieces ... how then can it be put back together? Jesus Christ addressed this problem before in answer to the question asked by the Sadducees concerning the moral dilemma of the resurrection. He said, "as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living ..." (Mat 22:31-32) "... for all live unto him." (Luke 20:38) In short, "WITH GOD, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE". PERIOD. As it is written, "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear." (Heb. 11:3) There is one straight line of truth that links the creation to the resurrection, the two events being demonstrations of the power and glory of the Eternal God and Our Father. God will put us back together, heal and change us in a moment, in the blink of an eye, on the Last Day. Do you believe this? Now someone will ask me, what of those moral persons who suffered brain damage and, having their personalities so changed, had become wanton sinners? Or what about the autistic or the mentally ill from birth? Have you not read that in times of ignorance "God winks"? And that "God knows the heart"? Therefore, in the resurrection, they will be as little children who knew neither right nor wrong but will grow up knowing only good; just like the infants who will inherit eternal life.(Rom. 9) ///
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Re: Human Nature, Neuroscience, and the Soul
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06/08/15 05:15 AM
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Again - there is not separate soul apart from the real physical body.
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Human Nature, Neuroscience, and the Soul
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06/08/15 01:51 PM
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Again - there is not separate soul apart from the real physical body. 1 Cor. 15:36-38, "You foolish person! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. And what you sow is not the body that is to be, but a bare kernel, perhaps of wheat or of some other grain. But God gives it a body as he has chosen, and to each kind of seed its own body." It is self-evident that there is a part of you that persists beyond death in a deep sleep from which only God can awaken you; that part is YOU. If you wish to call YOU a soul or a spirit, what's in a name? Your body will change on the Last Day, not YOU. You will be given a new body, but you will remain YOU. From the dead YOU will arise with a new body. 2 Cor. 5:4, "For while we are still in this tent, we groan, being burdened — not that we would be unclothed, but that we would be further clothed, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life." That is, just your body will be changed, as in a moment; but you will remain YOU. ///
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Re: Human Nature, Neuroscience, and the Soul
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06/08/15 02:04 PM
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No body - no life.
Psalms 103:14 Because God knows how we’re made, God remembers we’re just dust.
1 Corinthians 15:51-54 Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
What survives in death in the memory of God is the pattern of how to recreate us. God knows every thought, every purpose, every plan, every motive. . . . As the artist transfers to the canvas the features of the face, so the features of each individual character are transferred to the books of heaven. God has a perfect photograph of every man's character. {ML 291.6} And God can recreate an individual.
Christ declared to His hearers that if there were no resurrection of the dead, the Scriptures which they professed to believe would be of no avail. He said, "But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living." God counts the things that are not as though they were. He sees the end from the beginning, and beholds the result of His work as though it were now accomplished. The precious dead, from Adam down to the last saint who dies, will hear the voice of the Son of God, and will come forth from the grave to immortal life. God will be their God, and they shall be His people. There will be a close and tender relationship between God and the risen saints. This condition, which is anticipated in His purpose, He beholds as if it were already existing. The dead live unto Him. {DA 606.1}
No body - no life.
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Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Human Nature, Neuroscience, and the Soul
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06/08/15 04:10 PM
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Again - there is not separate soul apart from the real physical body. False Dichotomy.
By God's grace, Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: Human Nature, Neuroscience, and the Soul
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06/08/15 06:14 PM
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Again - there is not separate soul apart from the real physical body. False Dichotomy. Do you believe in a separate soul?
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Human Nature, Neuroscience, and the Soul
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What survives in death in the memory of God is the pattern of how to recreate us. You err, not knowing the scriptures or the power of God. God NEVER said He will create another you, exactly in every way, a perfect clone. Even Job cries out saying, "As for me, I know that my Redeemer lives, And at the last He will take His stand on the earth. Even after my skin is destroyed, Yet from my flesh I shall see God; Whom I myself shall behold, And whom my eyes will see and not another." (Job 19:25-26) And Paul agrees, as you already know. 1 Corinthians 15:51-53, "Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality." Your body changes, but not YOU. And that is the promise and word of God. Why then do you preach another gospel, telling people that their clones will live forever, hmmmm? ///
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Re: Human Nature, Neuroscience, and the Soul
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06/08/15 08:59 PM
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"Take this [cup] and divide it among yourselves; for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes" (Luke 22:17-18). Jesus promised he would have communion with His disciples again in the eternal kingdom. How will they recognize each other when sitting at the table?
"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Human Nature, Neuroscience, and the Soul
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06/09/15 06:06 AM
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You err, not knowing the scriptures or the power of God. Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of your face shall you eat bread, till you return to the ground; for out of it were you taken: for dust you are, and to dust shall you return. Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. Psalms 103:14 Because God knows how we’re made, God remembers we’re just dust.
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Human Nature, Neuroscience, and the Soul
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06/09/15 12:02 PM
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And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of your face shall you eat bread, till you return to the ground; for out of it were you taken: for dust you are, and to dust shall you return. Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. Psalms 103:14
Because God knows how we’re made, God remembers we’re just dust. So then, your body changes, but not YOU. Why then do you preach another gospel, telling people that they will die; but that they should be of good cheer, THEIR PERFECT CLONES will live forever instead, hmmmm? Is that comforting to you? ///
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