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Re: Where is the Ark of the Covenant? [Re: Windsor] #177933
11/10/15 08:10 PM
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So are you going to correct your statement Brother Daryl? Have you changed your mind or is this not enough?


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: Where is the Ark of the Covenant? [Re: Windsor] #177934
11/10/15 08:17 PM
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Maybe James is not aware of this:
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While these words of holy trust ascend to God, the clouds sweep back, and the starry heavens are seen, unspeakably glorious in contrast with the black and angry firmament on either side. The glory of the celestial city streams from the gates ajar. Then there appears against the sky a hand holding two tables of stone folded together. Says the prophet: "The heavens shall declare His righteousness: for God is judge Himself." Psalm 50:6. That holy law, God's righteousness, that amid thunder and flame was proclaimed from Sinai as the guide of life, is now revealed to men as the rule of judgment. The hand opens the tables, and there are seen the precepts of the Decalogue, traced as with a pen of fire. The words are so plain that all can read them. Memory is aroused, the darkness of superstition and heresy is swept from every mind, and God's ten words, brief, comprehensive, and authoritative, are presented to the view of all the inhabitants of the earth. {GC 639.1}

Re: Where is the Ark of the Covenant? [Re: jamesonofthunder] #177936
11/10/15 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: jamesonofthunder
The earthly ark is a model of the heavenly. God showed Moses what to build but the earthly ark is still here.

"The ark containing the law of God, the altar of incense, and other instruments of service found in the sanctuary below, have also their counterpart in the sanctuary above. In holy vision the apostle John was permitted to enter heaven, and he there beheld the candlestick and the altar of incense, and as `the temple of God was opened,' he beheld also `the ark of His testament' (Revelation 11:19)."--4SP 261.

"Before the temple was destroyed, God made known to a few of His faithful servants the fate of the temple, which was the pride of Israel, and which they regarded with idolatry, while they were sinning against God. He also revealed to them the captivity of Israel. These righteous men, just before the destruction of the temple, removed the sacred ark containing the tables of stone, and with mourning and sadness, secreted it in a cave where it was to be hid from the people of Israel, because of their sins, and was to be no more restored to them. That sacred ark is yet hid. It has never been disturbed since it was secreted."--4SG 114, 115 (1864);1SP 414 (1870); SR 195.

Seems that this is the one that answers the question as to where it is, namely in a cave somewhere, possibly not very far from where the temple was located.


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Re: Where is the Ark of the Covenant? [Re: kland] #177937
11/10/15 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Maybe James is not aware of this:
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While these words of holy trust ascend to God, the clouds sweep back, and the starry heavens are seen, unspeakably glorious in contrast with the black and angry firmament on either side. The glory of the celestial city streams from the gates ajar. Then there appears against the sky a hand holding two tables of stone folded together. Says the prophet: "The heavens shall declare His righteousness: for God is judge Himself." Psalm 50:6. That holy law, God's righteousness, that amid thunder and flame was proclaimed from Sinai as the guide of life, is now revealed to men as the rule of judgment. The hand opens the tables, and there are seen the precepts of the Decalogue, traced as with a pen of fire. The words are so plain that all can read them. Memory is aroused, the darkness of superstition and heresy is swept from every mind, and God's ten words, brief, comprehensive, and authoritative, are presented to the view of all the inhabitants of the earth. {GC 639.1}

In light of the other EGW quote, this seems to be referring to the one that is in the New Jerusalem.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

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Re: Where is the Ark of the Covenant? [Re: Daryl] #177941
11/11/15 01:52 AM
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Yes exactly. I wish I could share the amazing moments of peaceful grace filled conversations with Brother Ron Wyatt I had when he was alive. He was the most amazing man I think I have ever men and so humble. Many people are going to shocked when they see the honor he receives in heaven.


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: Where is the Ark of the Covenant? [Re: Windsor] #177942
11/11/15 02:02 AM
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It's funny how God leads me to these amazing people who you all persecute and He shows me how He loves them and supports them yet most of you want their destruction. And you call me evil.


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: Where is the Ark of the Covenant? [Re: jamesonofthunder] #177949
11/11/15 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: jamesonofthunder
Yes exactly. I wish I could share the amazing moments of peaceful grace filled conversations with Brother Ron Wyatt I had when he was alive. He was the most amazing man I think I have ever men and so humble. Many people are going to shocked when they see the honor he receives in heaven.
To bad that he has shown another side to many others besides you. I met the man too, very smooth talker, nearly convincing. How do you account for testimony from my personal friend, who is still live and very sharp, and an academic?

http://www.ldolphin.org/wyatt1.html


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Where is the Ark of the Covenant? [Re: jamesonofthunder] #177951
11/11/15 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: jamesonofthunder
It's funny how God leads me to these amazing people who you all persecute and He shows me how He loves them and supports them yet most of you want their destruction. And you call me evil.
Right before I read your last two posts, I was going to say, some people believe Ron Wyatt found it.

Ron Wyatt is a fraud!

I searched and found a clip of him. I agree with APL, except I would add he also appeals to your emotions. I believe he is almost and expert, though not in honesty.
Either Ron Wyatt is a fraud, or many other people are (such as Shelton).

Hmmm... If A=B and C=A, then...... what can we assume about C?

Re: Where is the Ark of the Covenant? [Re: Daryl] #177952
11/11/15 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: Daryl
Originally Posted By: kland
Maybe James is not aware of this:
Quote:
While these words of holy trust ascend to God, the clouds sweep back, and the starry heavens are seen, unspeakably glorious in contrast with the black and angry firmament on either side. The glory of the celestial city streams from the gates ajar. Then there appears against the sky a hand holding two tables of stone folded together. Says the prophet: "The heavens shall declare His righteousness: for God is judge Himself." Psalm 50:6. That holy law, God's righteousness, that amid thunder and flame was proclaimed from Sinai as the guide of life, is now revealed to men as the rule of judgment. The hand opens the tables, and there are seen the precepts of the Decalogue, traced as with a pen of fire. The words are so plain that all can read them. Memory is aroused, the darkness of superstition and heresy is swept from every mind, and God's ten words, brief, comprehensive, and authoritative, are presented to the view of all the inhabitants of the earth. {GC 639.1}

In light of the other EGW quote, this seems to be referring to the one that is in the New Jerusalem.
I'm thinking James is mixing up which one will be seen.

Re: Where is the Ark of the Covenant? [Re: Windsor] #177959
11/11/15 06:30 PM
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According to james, the Ark has been seen already, though there is not one shred of proof.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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