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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #174773
06/30/15 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: james
The money (or currency) is NOT the problem, but the unwillingness of the indebted to honour their debt. Banks collapse when people who borrowed refuse to pay back their loans, and this leaves others without the means to generate wealth.
You need to understand fractional reserve banking. It only takes a small percentage of people or corporations to not pay back their debt to cause instability in the entire system.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: APL] #174779
06/30/15 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: APL
It only takes a small percentage of people or corporations to not pay back their debt to cause instability in the entire system.

FYI: Fractional Reserve Banking

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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #174780
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Originally Posted By: Elle
It is a debt based system using usury to enslaved men and nations. In the long run, mathematically it doesn't work and was design to fail from the start.

Really? That's odd. Who then will be the beneficiaries in the end and in what way will they have benefited from designing a sure-fail system?

Originally Posted By: Elle
Now if you loose all your savings and wealth during this transfer of Kingdoms, you'll look very foolish and you won't be able to tell the Lord or your family you didn't know about it.

Mat. 6:19-21 says, "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal ..."

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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #174787
07/01/15 12:39 AM
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The fractional reserve system is based on debt. But I agree with you in your quote of Matthew, storing you treasure as pavement, that is gold, does not preserve you.


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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: James Peterson] #174788
07/01/15 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Elle
It is a debt based system using usury to enslaved men and nations. In the long run, mathematically it doesn't work and was design to fail from the start.

Really? That's odd. Who then will be the beneficiaries in the end and in what way will they have benefited from designing a sure-fail system?

Of course -- the Elites of Mystery Babylon that suceeded to put the people and the nations in debt to them forever. That's the purpose of a debt based system : they are the creditors that makes money out of thin air and lend it to us with interest....

The simple math is this : a nation that was loaned $100 million and are requested to pay back $130 Million ... it doesn't work as there's only 100 million in the national pool. Now you may say, well you can get the extra $30 million from another nation. That other nation is under the same system and also owe an extra $30Million. They may give you $30Million but they are $60 million short. That is what happened to Greece. Watch the 3min video again. At the end of the story is every country ends up indebted because there's not enough money to pay the debt back.

In another word : The creditors of Mystery Babylon gives us printed papers owing interest and we are forced to buy and sell with their worthless printed papers. They made it illegal to exchange with any other currencies or monies besides what they give us. They made it impossible to pay the debt back in full. So with time the people and the nation debt increases, we are forced to sell them our land, any other possession and our freedom. They end up having everything and us nothing. They become our masters and we are their slaves because we OWE THEM a DEBT that continually INCREASES and never gets paid..... THUS they have succeeded to take all our possesion and make us a FOREVER SLAVES to them, just the way they planned it from the beginning ....all this with only worthless papers.

How unreasonable and ridiculous this whole situation have become? How have we come to accept this ridiculous system? Why have we not seen through this? Is it because we do not know the Lord's ideal economic ways given in His laws?

That's why the Lord forbade usury(charging interest) and implemented a Jubilee(foregiveness of all debt every 50 years) in His kingdom laws. Why aren't we Christians not in favor to the Lord's economic ways? Why have we not implemented the Lord's ways in our land? Why have we accepted Mystery Babylon's ways? Don't we believe the Lord's ways is better? Maybe now we will take a second look at the Lord's laws and come to see it wise beyond measure.

Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Elle
Now if you loose all your savings and wealth during this transfer of Kingdoms, you'll look very foolish and you won't be able to tell the Lord or your family you didn't know about it.

Mat. 6:19-21 says, "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal ..."

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Do you use money to buy food? to pay your rent? or mortgage or pay taxes? etc... ????? Do you give all your surplus money away to the needy and never store any? I think your own words may apply to you :
Quote:
"Or are you like the Scribes and Pharisees of whom Jesus spoke saying, according to Mat. 23:4, "For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers"?

The message in Mat 6:19-21 is not to make money your idol. The Lord also told us to be good stewards with what was given to us. He will make us accountable to what was entrusted to us. The key is being a good steward without making money our priority or idol.


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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #174818
07/01/15 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted By: Elle

In regards to Jade Helm 15....it is a military exercise...there's no doubt about that as it is seen in the US. What is the mystery as it is not reveal to the people yet, is it's purpose. That's what Stephen Jones speculated based on the name they have called their operation and based on what he knows the Lord is doing right now. Jade = Chinese, Helm = helmet(head), 15 = ??? unknown.
Elle, do you suppose that if it was held from the 17th of a month to the 17th of another month, do you suppose, could it be a possibility, that it could be called Jade Helm 17?

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: James Peterson] #174819
07/01/15 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Elle
His statement is related to the context of the video. Since they have showed quickly that the EU and their countries are all bankrupt -- what I understand his message is -- to sell everything in form of paper that is based on this rediculous insolvent unsubstainable fiat money system for their whole system is about to collapse.

The money (or currency) is NOT the problem, but the unwillingness of the indebted to honour their debt.
James, you don't understand. First it was gold. Once everyone bought gold, then they said silver. This is to promote buying silver. It's a market ploy/scheme.

And certain people around here seem to think we need to transfer our wealth into pavement for the millennium to be held on this earth.

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: kland] #174842
07/02/15 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Elle
His statement is related to the context of the video. Since they have showed quickly that the EU and their countries are all bankrupt -- what I understand his message is -- to sell everything in form of paper that is based on this rediculous insolvent unsubstainable fiat money system for their whole system is about to collapse.

The money (or currency) is NOT the problem, but the unwillingness of the indebted to honour their debt.
James, you don't understand. First it was gold. Once everyone bought gold, then they said silver. This is to promote buying silver. It's a market ploy/scheme.

And certain people around here seem to think we need to transfer our wealth into pavement for the millennium to be held on this earth.

I also said it can be anything that is not related to their paper system : land, property, material for your business, etc... anything that will retain its value when the transfer of kingdoms happens.


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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: kland] #174843
07/02/15 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle

In regards to Jade Helm 15....it is a military exercise...there's no doubt about that as it is seen in the US. What is the mystery as it is not reveal to the people yet, is it's purpose. That's what Stephen Jones speculated based on the name they have called their operation and based on what he knows the Lord is doing right now. Jade = Chinese, Helm = helmet(head), 15 = ??? unknown.
Elle, do you suppose that if it was held from the 17th of a month to the 17th of another month, do you suppose, could it be a possibility, that it could be called Jade Helm 17?

Mystery Babylon's top leaders are linked with many or some of these factions: the Masons, Jesuits, Illuminati, Luciferians, Bilgerberg, Commitee of 300, etc... These factions are deep in numerology. Numbers have meanings for them. They often coordinate operation on specific dates that represents particle numbers because of its meanings. I do not know what 15 means to them.

But keep in mind that the Lord also have numbers and expressed these in the Bible and have also meanings. The Lord's number meanings and their number meanings are not the same.

But for sure they have coordinated the date of the events (June 15 to July 15) with the name of their operation that has 15 in it which mean something specific to them.

I have heard from multiple sources that the US government is divided in two : those complying to Mystery Babylon's agenda, and those that counter it who are known as the "white hats". Many of these "white hats" are people that were once with Mystery Babylon and were inked with one or many of its factions. So some of these "white hats" guys are schooled in Mystery Babylon numerology.

So it is speculated by many that Jade Helm 15 is an operation led by the "white hats" in the Pentagon. If that is so, they may be using the number "15" to convey to the bad guys a particular message.

Then despite of all that, the Lord may use this operation by putting His own spin to it by causing an unexpected event or just causing a different outcome to fullfill His own plan and His own meaning of the number 15.

Something to watch and time will tell.


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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #174899
07/03/15 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: Elle
A good 3 min summary.

"Sell Everything Immediatly!"
3min youtube video
Cute.


Quote:
anything that will retain its value when the transfer of kingdoms happens.
There's no transfer of kingdoms which relate to material things. Show otherwise in the Bible.

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