Well that may be true. But not one of the fundamental beliefs.

On this point I am tempted to be in agreement with some: Being a Remnant Church should not be among the 28 FB, even though we count on it. Let's rather be eager to be among the Remnant! And come to an agreement on the 28.

Amen, Pastor. Only the SDA Church fits the description above. No other church can be described that way.

Kland, as you know, Ellen White clearly identified the SDA Church as the Remnant Church of Rev 12. It is one of the FB.

MM, you failed to show it is one of the FB. You even said "the SDA Church believes it is the Remnant Church of Rev 12. There is no question about it." Believing and saying not question about it does not make it one of the FB.

What you are really saying, as has been said, is you are using the 28 FB as unspecified and unstated hammers, to change at will against those you disagree with. Ya know, kind of like:

'That's against policy.'

'What policy? Can I see the policy?'

'My policy. It's not printed, so it can be "flexible".'

Most of our policies are printed but not available to all. The written policies are usually availae to those who know somebody who knows somebody.

In some cases there are other policies that explain the matter where you need to apply it, which may be different from other policies.

A local conference president told me the official Church Manual, although voted by the GC at a regular session, had to be accepted by his conference before it applied in his area.

Jesus Christ is not coming back for a denomination that has proclaimed itself to be special because of its policies and/or fundamental beliefs. Of that we can be sure.


Who are the sheep and in what way does one enter into the congregation of the ones to whom it will be said on that great day, "Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world"? Are they the ones who have 28 Fundamental Beliefs and itch to cast out because of a difference of opinion? Are they the ones who are eager to judge those who do not share their blindsided view? Are they the ones given to an austere lifestyle after one in their midst whom they call spirit of prophecy? Did Jesus Christ say so? Did he authorize anyone to take the goats from the sheep before the time?

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Our policies have nothing to do with salvation. They are merely rules developed to make the church as apostolic as possible with the daily routines not directly prescribed in Scripture.

Have you not read where it is written, "Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, 'The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, See here! or See there! -- For indeed, the kingdom of God is [in your midst]'" (Luke 17:20-21)? The CHURCH however is the visible entity much in form and function as the nation of Israel divided into tribes; for the CHURCH, the denominations: SDA, Baptists, Mormons, Catholics, Lutherans, etc. Nevertheless, as happened to Israel, so it will happen for the CHURCH.


If the SDA denomination feels it incumbent to "discipline Members for disagreeing on [its own] 28FB", then they have that authority; but members who choose to worship within other denominations may still be counted full citizens of the Kingdom of God. It is the Kingdom of God and His principle of Love that is of paramount and definitive importance rather than denominational eccentricity. I guess I'm more interested in the reaction of members who face such disciplinary councils that they should not feel cut off from heaven in making their way out.

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