Blessings MM,

Just one more point on the ten kings of Revelation 17:12-14; 7BC 983.3-7.

I believe I need to modify my list somewhat;

1) Babylon
2) Medo-Persia
3) Greece
4) Imperial Rome
5) Papal Rome
6) Lamb-like Beast with Dragon Mouth (USA) GC 578.3
7) Image of the Beast (Apostate Protestantism with USA leading the way to heal deadly wound of the Beast.)
8) Babylon (Papacy, Apostate Protestantism and Spiritualism with Papacy as the head)

Has the USA started speaking as a dragon?

Where does satan personating Christ fit in the lineup?

How many heads does the beast have?

17:3 " having seven heads
17:7 "beast that carries her, which has the seven heads
17:9 "The seven heads are seven mountains"

So here we see that the beast has SEVEN heads.

Nowhere does it say he has eight heads.
The beast is an eighth identity, all seven heads are attached to this beast, all seven heads are part of this identity.

This beast is red (scarlet) like the DRAGON in chapter 12.
It has seven heads and ten horns like the dragon in chapter 12. And chapter 12 tells us who this dragon with it's seven heads that persecute God's true church is -- "Satan, the devil that old serpent".

The heads represent political/religious powers through which Satan worked to persecute God's true church.




When the angel carries John forward in time, John sees the beast when "the beast is not" -- in other words the political part was separated from the spiritual part and the beast (even though the woman, or spiritual part was alive) had lost it's power.

At that point
FIVE "heads" HAVE FALLEN --
Ancient Babylon, Persia, Grecia, Rome, Papal Rome's political power.



The sixth is interesting for it is a time when the beast is not --
"The beast that thou sawest was, and is not, and yet is; Rev. 17:8
"And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, the other is not yet come; and when he comes, he must continue a short space. pit...(10)

Thus we are in the sixth head stage when the beast as a persecuting power is not -- but there is still a head.
We are at the END of the sixth head time.


The seventh head is the revival of the political/religious beast power once again.
The beast is healed and can launch back into its persecution fury.

The eighth is NOT a head. In fact it isn't a head at all for the beast only has seven heads as the chapter points out THREE TIMES.

The eighth is the very identity of the beast which has the seven heads.
I believe it is satan himself impersonating Christ -- he was the master mind behind all the false worship and persecution throughout the whole existence of the beast.

So it would look more like this:

1) Babylon
2) Medo-Persia
3) Greece
4) Rome
5) Papal Rome wielding political enforcing power.
6) Roman Church minus it's political control over state and persecuting power
7) Healed Beast power -- Papal Rome holding hands with apostate Protestantism and empowered by spiritualism

This is cemented with the appearance of the master mind who has empowered the beast through the ages -- Satan pretending to be Christ. (the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth .. vs 11)

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Dedication, nice list. Good logic. Thank you for sharing. But it doesn't make sense to me to say the prophecy allocates 3 out of the 7 heads to same kingdom, namely, Papal Rome. Pagan Rome underwent several radical transformations during its 600 year reign and yet the prophecy allocated only one head.

I believe that the USA has been speaking as a dragon for a long time. But, mot constantly. The dragon side of the USA has had to be wise and calculated in revealing itself.

I believe it is the passing of the Sunday Law in the United States that creates the Image of the Beast. Then the USA will lead apostate protestants in Europe to pass Sunday Laws to heal the deadly wound of the beast.

I don't believe Satan's personating Christ is part of these 10 kings in Revelation 17.

Thank you.

No problem MM.

When we look at slavery in the early years of the United States. That was left over from England, yet the country was divided over how to handle it. Blacks were free in some states, blacks were slaves in some states and blacks were in limbo in other states. So, the dragon was speaking enough to maintain an evil status quo I believe.

We finally had to have a civil war to resolve some of these issues, such as slavery.

So, the USA has had a dragon mouth at times throughout our history. But, we mostly speak as a dragon these days.