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The Cosmological Constant! What is it? #176862
09/14/15 07:40 AM
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I find the history behind the Cosmological Constant quite fascinating. Albert Einstein himself didn't know what to do with it.

Yet, today we supposedly know the cosmological constant really exists and its value equals one proton per cubic foot of space.

So what?!?

I'll explain later.

Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: Alchemy] #176863
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Blessings everyone,

I don't know if I've talked about this before in Maritime and I apologize if this is redundant. But, since scientists believe they have found the Higgs Boson at the LHC, the cosmological constant has become important.

You see, Albert Einstein formulated the Theory of General Relativity back around 1917 and it was believed to be confirmed true around 1922 with a total eclipse of the sun in Australia.

But, there turned out to be a problem with Einstein's General Relativity Theory. It didn't work well in a static universe. You see, the universe was thought to be static in size back then. Which means the universe was neither expanding nor contracting in size. The size of the universe was constant.

So, Einstein realized that there was room in his math for another variable and added what he called the cosmological constant. He gave it a value and wah-lah! His theory worked great now.

Well, then around 1929 or so, Edwin Hubble discovered the redshift in space and this was later confirmed to demonstrate that the universe is actually expanding. Einstein then threw out the cosmological constant since he didn't need it anymore and complained that he should have known this all along.

Now, scientists have supposedly proven that the cosmological constant does exist, even in an expanding universe. And that its value is the equivalent to one proton per cubic foot of space.

Why does all this matter?

Well, because the Higgs Boson has been found. And if the Higgs Boson has been found, then the Higgs field must exist, or have existed at some time in the past. And this is a gargantuan problem for evolutionists because based on the size of the particle known as the Higgs Boson, the density of the Higgs Field is horrifying.

With the Higgs Boson at about 125 GeV, the Higgs Field would have a density of about one trillion tons of mass per cubic centimeter. This density would then exist throughout the entire universe because the Higgs Field is thought to be, in scientific terms, omnipresent. That's right! It is everywhere at once.

That means if you spread your fingers apart, the space between them should contain trillions of tons of mass. Obviously, it does't. The space between you and your computer would contain many trillions of tons of mass, but it doesn't.

And, if we apply Einstein's other theory, the Theory of Relativity which explains how mass and energy are interchangeable, then all that missing mass would have to be in the form of a gargantuan energy field!

A field responsible for the creation of all the mass that exists. A field responsible for maintaining all that exists. Is omnipresent. And is so powerful that it is far beyond our ability to sense it or measure it.

Sound familiar?!?

Science has been running head long into divine attributes in nature and refuse to give God the glory. They refuse to recognize that God must exist even though all this science proves God's Word true. Instead, they build the LHC to try and get around the cosmological constant problem.

Never doubt the Word of God and you will never be ashamed. Hebrews 12:1-2.

Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: Alchemy] #176949
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Fascinating stuff, Alchemy!

As the song says: "In the stars His handiwork I see..."


"For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old..." 2Peter 3:5

"He is before all things, and by Him all things hold together."
Colossians 1:17




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Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: Alchemy] #176951
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It is interesting that physicists have hypothesized a field that gives everything such fundamental properties as mass. Its nickname - the God Particle - seems appropriate.


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Arnold

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And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: Alchemy] #177187
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This is a video to help us all to understand these issues a little more. This guy is an evolutionists though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-vKh_jKX7Q




Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: Alchemy] #177267
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Blessings everyone,

Between about 9:50 and 10:35, the scientist explains how the Higgs Field doesn't have any source at all. If you were to evacuate, or suction everything out of the universe, the Higgs Field would still be there. You can't turn it off!

Very much a Divine attribute I would say!

Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: Alchemy] #177390
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A fascinating video, thank you for the link!

Do you think the Higgs field is some sort of glimps into the operation of the Holy Spirit? If so, what do you make of the claim made during the Q an A that the intense heat of the Big Bang temporarily shut off or suppressed the field allowing matter to expand for a short time at light speed?


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: ProdigalOne] #177396
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Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
A fascinating video, thank you for the link!

Do you think the Higgs field is some sort of glimps into the operation of the Holy Spirit? If so, what do you make of the claim made during the Q an A that the intense heat of the Big Bang temporarily shut off or suppressed the field allowing matter to expand for a short time at light speed?


Even though I do believe science has run into divine attributes with this Higgs Field, I don't believe scientists really understand it all that well. Did God leave a signature of heat behind to be noticed? I don't know. I don't completely trust the scientists to know either.

I also found it interesting that the super string theory is impossible to prove. But, they want everyone to believe in it.

I trust Genesis 1 and 2.

Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: Alchemy] #177398
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Amen!


They are trying so hard to erase God from their theories,
but you cannot empty the ocean of water by labeling it H2O.

I'm always fascinated by the waffling "facts" of science.
First, dark matter fills in the equational blanks, then it's string theory, then Higgs, then some sort of anti Higgs field, now it seems to be some combination...

These atheistic theories are like the weather in Alberta,
if you don't like it wait five minutes!

The Word of God is unchanging and sure.


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: Alchemy] #177405
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I'd be careful about saying this Higg's field is a God particle or whatever. Right now scientists don't have an explanation. If they should find one that explains everything, they will come back and say it wasn't a God particle at all, that some people were so anxious to insert God into everything they look like fools.

I'm reminded of some creationists who carved human footsteps next to dinosaur's. Of course, atheists do the same.

Isn't there enough evidence for God without interpreting some not yet well understood Higg's field?

Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: kland] #177411
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I got my information from an evolutionary scientist.

And this video is pretty old now and nothing has been proven wrong on it yet.

So, if you are saying evolutionists change their positions a lot, I agree.

Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: Alchemy] #177417
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I'm just saying, I'd even be more careful about going along with or supporting what evolutionists say is god.

Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: kland] #177424
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Originally Posted By: kland
I'm just saying, I'd even be more careful about going along with or supporting what evolutionists say is god.


Did you watch the video?

Evolutionists didn't say it was God, but gave the name "The God Particle" to the Higgs Boson! I didn't say it was God for that matter. But, the conditions they describe are the same the Bible ascribes to God. Or you could say that God claims as His attributes.

I for one am not self-conscience to express myself when it comes to truth. I don't require the approval of anyone but God for that.

Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: Alchemy] #177451
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Originally Posted By: Alchemy
Evolutionists didn't say it was God, but gave the name "The God Particle" to the Higgs Boson! I didn't say it was God for that matter. But, the conditions they describe are the same the Bible ascribes to God. Or you could say that God claims as His attributes.

I for one am not self-conscience to express myself when it comes to truth. I don't require the approval of anyone but God for that.
This is what I'm talking about.

I'm not talking about self-conscience. I'm talking about making statements which they will say they didn't really make. That is, they will resent being held to something they didn't really say. And even if they did accept they said something, they could later say science has now shown new light they were wrong....

I'm not trying to be argumentative here. I'm just saying one should proceed with caution with saying what they are saying or not saying.

Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: kland] #177478
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I think they are using "God" in the same sense that Einstein did when he said God doesn't play dice.

While I don't think scientists mean to say the Higgs Boson/Field is divine, the theory says it gives the other particles their properties (e.g. mass), which does bear a close resemblance to what God does. Basically, as I understand the theory, the Higgs Field keeps the planets in their tracks.


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Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: Alchemy] #177527
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Personally, I say we hold their feet to the fire!

I understand that they rely heavily of changes in science to save them. I personally believe that is a case for creation! It stays the same for thousands of years.

So, evolutionary scientists may reject even a book written called the God Particle in the face of criticism. So what! I say we hold their feet to the fire still more!

So, what we have now is that evolutionary science today are stuck with the Big Bang and the Standard Model. And they have wanted out of the Standard Model for many years now. But, they found the Higgs Boson which only further proved the Standard Model to be correct!

Which brings us to the LHC, or Large Hadron Collider in Europe. They are straining to find a way around the Standard Model through that machine. Just science so-called.

Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: kland] #178568
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Originally Posted By: kland
I'd be careful about saying this Higg's field is a God particle or whatever. Right now scientists don't have an explanation. If they should find one that explains everything, they will come back and say it wasn't a God particle at all, that some people were so anxious to insert God into everything they look like fools.

I'm reminded of some creationists who carved human footsteps next to dinosaur's. Of course, atheists do the same.

Isn't there enough evidence for God without interpreting some not yet well understood Higg's field?
(bold emphasis mine)

There was a highly acclaimed scientist at Fermi-Lab in Illinois that wrote a book called "The God Particle". I haven't read it myself, but, that is where the term came from.

Fermi-Lab is a particle collider outside of Chicago, Il.

Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: Alchemy] #178583
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It's a nice book. And it explains why they call it the God particle.


By God's grace,
Arnold

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And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
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