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Re: A Super Jubilee
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10/13/15 11:33 AM
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Glen, Kland, since starting this topic a friend shared an excellent PDF study on the biblical calendar by an Adventist brother. He places the Day of Atonement at Oct 26 this year but in my view this is probably one to three days too late. I'd place the Day at Oct 23, possibly 24 or even 25 and the Feast of Trumpets today or tomorrow but possibly even Thursday. If you want a copy of his study which again is very good, email him at withgirdedsword@gmail.com. I'm sure he'll be glad to share it or give you a link.
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Re: A Super Jubilee
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10/13/15 09:10 PM
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Ok, you're saying it's different time than some say and he says because....?
And those suggested days are for the whole world, or for your local location?
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Re: A Super Jubilee
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10/15/15 05:41 AM
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"withgirdedsword@gmail.com" - - Brendan! A good guy. How well do you know him?
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: A Super Jubilee
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Noticed he has a website, too. Though I think it is a work in progress.
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Re: A Super Jubilee
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10/17/15 12:26 AM
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I just made contact with him for the first time a couple days ago.
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Re: A Super Jubilee
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10/17/15 12:29 AM
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Ok, you're saying it's different time than some say and he says because....? And those suggested days are for the whole world, or for your local location? I'm still digesting his material and just started exchanging thoughts so I'm sure I understand what he's saying.
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Re: A Super Jubilee
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10/17/15 02:52 AM
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Noticed he has a website, too. Though I think it is a work in progress. OK - I see he does have a website - yes, very much a work in progress it does appear.
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: A Super Jubilee
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10/23/15 11:12 PM
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"withgirdedsword@gmail.com" - - Brendan! A good guy. How well do you know him? APL I've gotten to know Brendan some in the last week. It's been good. He's one of the best studied people I've met on the biblical calendar. We've been discussing the rules that the calendar operates on, mostly the rules governing the start of the biblical year. About 25 percent of what we've discussed has been Jubilee and Sabbatical related. Brendan thinks that the Sabbatical is this year, fall of 2015 to 2016, whereas most Jews and Christians think it was last year and that the Jubilee could be this year. He bases that mainly on two scholarly articles, one by Robert Young and another by a man named Wacholder. The articles are convincing but not compelling. The other side makes valid points as well. For me the deciding factor is Daniel 9. Here's part of what I wrote to Brendan earlier today: Regarding the timing of the Sabbaticals the main problem I have with making 27 to 28 AD a Sabbatical is that it undermines the mid-week crucifixion. The literal week runs from day one to day seven. The two witnesses in Daniel 9 that this order is preserved in the year count are that the prophecy is given in terms of "weeks" or "sevens" and this wouldn't be the case I don't think if the two did not align. The other is the mid-week crucifixion. If the 490 years starts on the last day of the cycle, the Sabbath, Christ was not slain in the middle of a true "seven", but in the middle of an arbitrary "seven". While it's true that Sunday occurs every seven days, it's not the true seventh day and Thursday is not the true mid-week point. And I think this same principle has a bearing on reckoning the days to Pentecost. The counting of days helps confirm our faith in the integrity of the literal week.
The Lord will make all of this plain I think in the near future. We could be wrong, but Nora and I are both convicted that significant events will mark the start of the next Jubilee which we think is 24 to 48 hours away. Regardless of whether momentous events unfold shortly, if we go at this like the pioneers did in the 1848 study conferences the Lord will make it plain. The same meek and teachable faith will bring the same results.
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Re: A Super Jubilee
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10/24/15 01:21 AM
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Mark, reading through your latest post, I was struck by the statement:"...Nora and I are both convicted that significant events will mark the start of the next Jubilee which we think is 24 to 48 hours away."
As I type these words, Patricia, the strongest hurricane ever recorded is about to make landfall on the Pacific coast of Mexico. I have no idea if this is relevant to your fascinating study; however, it makes me wonder, how would you define a "significant" event?
"...I will not forget you. Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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Re: A Super Jubilee
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10/25/15 02:39 AM
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Patricia a "significant" event? Nope.
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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