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Re: A Super Jubilee
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10/25/15 08:08 AM
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Patricia a "significant" event? Nope. You are probably right, but my question was in regard to Mark's thoughts on what events he believes are about to occur. APL, what do you think would qualify as a significant event in the context of the beginning of the Jubilee?
"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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Re: A Super Jubilee
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10/25/15 09:40 AM
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I meant to reply to this ever since you opened this thread Mark, but were busy elsewhere in other discussions. Currently, my time on the forum will be limited for the next few months. In brief....there was a 38 years discrepency between the Jubilee Calendar from Adam and the Israelites Calendar when they began keeping the Feasts/Jubilee when they entered in Canaan. On the 10th day of the 7th Month(Day of Atonement) the Israelites believed the 10 bad spies report instead of believing the Lord's command to enter the promised land. If they would of believed, then on the day of Atonement the Jubilee trumpet would of sounded and on the first day of Tabernacle they would of entered the promised land and this event would of marked the 50th Jubilee from Adam. 50 is the number that represent Jubilee. However because of unbelief they did not enter the Lord's ultimate rest, but instead the Lord made them wonder in the wilderness for another 38 years. Also the Lord made them enter the promise land on PASSOVER instead of TABERNACLE. That is very significant event by itself showing their level of faith which was only a Passover level of faith as they refused to enter Pentecost and Tabernacle. So when they finally entered the promised land at Passover, they started to keep all the feasts as commanded but there was a 38 years discrepency between the Lord's Jubilee calendar from the Israelites feasts days & Jubiee calendar. After the 70 years captivity with Babylon, the Lord brought a "correction" by narrowing the discrepencies between the two calendars. What I've read (but stil haven't verified with personal studies to track down all the eventfull years into my personal timeline) there is only a 7 years discrepencies between the two calenders now. I would recommend that we all review our timeline. I had proposed like 5 months ago to study here the date of the next Jubilee by which to my understanding(still needs to be verified thought) that the next Jubilee counting from Adam is in the year 2035. IF 34AD was a sabbatical year, then 2015 would be a sabbatical year. 69AD would be a sabbatical year. IF the Jubilee was 702BC and 457BC, then 2015 can not be a Jubilee. The main biblical sources for identifying the timing of the Jubilee and Sabbatical years are the 70 week prophecy in Daniel 9 and the story of the Assyrian siege of Jerusalem under Hezekiah in Isaiah 37:30. The text in Isaiah describes Sabbatical and Jubilee years where no crops are planted. Historians have been able to pinpooint both the teturn date of the Jews described in Daniel 9 and Ezra 6 and 7, and Assyrian iege of Isaiah 37. As we've seen above, the start of the 70 weeks is 457BCE. The siege occurred in 701. These two dates synchronize with each other. The time span fromone year after the siege, 702 to 457BCE is a multiple of 49 wich tells us that 701 was a Sabbatical and 702 a Jubilee. In addition there are other extra biblical sources confirming the Sabbatical cycles. For example, one ancient historian noted that Jerusalem was destroyed one year after a Sabbatical year. This further confirms that above; if a Sabbatical ended in the fall of 69AD, then a Sabbatical also ended and a Jubilee began in the fall of 457BC. And it confirms 2015 as a Sabbatical. If 701BC and 456BC was a Jubilee, then where were the other Jubilees? Jubilee years based on Mark's reckoning.
702BC 653BC 604BC 555BC 506BC 457BC 408BC
359BC 310BC 261BC 212BC 163BC 114BC 65BC
16BC 34AD 83AD 132AD 181AD 230AD 279AD
328AD 377AD 426AD 475AD 524AD 573AD 622AD
671AD 720AD 769AD 818AD 867AD 916AD 965AD
1014AD 1063AD 1112AD 1161AD 1210AD 1259AD 1308AD
1357AD 1406AD 1455AD 1504AD 1553AD 1602AD 1651AD
1700AD 1749AD 1798AD 1847AD 1896AD 1945AD 1994AD
2043AD 2015 can not be a Jubilee. Can it be a Sabbatical years? 1994+21 = 2015. Yes based on Mark's reckoning, but not a Jubilee.
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Re: A Super Jubilee
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10/27/15 04:00 PM
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On the 10th day of the 7th Month(Day of Atonement) the Israelites believed the 10 bad spies report instead of believing the Lord's command to enter the promised land.
Support please. I can't find it.
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Re: A Super Jubilee
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10/27/15 04:01 PM
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Patricia a "significant" event? Nope. You are probably right, but my question was in regard to Mark's thoughts on what events he believes are about to occur. APL, what do you think would qualify as a significant event in the context of the beginning of the Jubilee? Significant? Keep it ambiguous and anything fits.
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Re: A Super Jubilee
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10/30/15 02:08 PM
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Here's a significant event. Have you noticed Venus and Jupiter are perfectly lined up [with each other] in the morning sky? I have never before noticed that.
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Re: A Super Jubilee
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10/30/15 10:38 PM
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Prodigalone, sorry for the delay in replying. To answer your question of what significant event am I talking about for Oct 24, 2015 my post from page four of the thread, post #177117 reads: It's the purification of the sons of Levi, the gospel harvest, the final atonement of Christ. Just as at the close of the 70 weeks of Daniel 9 when Christ suddenly came to His temple and cleansed it at the start of His ministry, in the same way at or near the start of the 70th Jubilee the Lord will do the same - He'll cleanse the church and purify the sons of Levi. Christ did that twice during His ministry, once at the start and once at the close. Ellen White says that this history will be repeated in the church in the future. I think we're soon about to see it. Our prayer now should be "Spare your people O Lord!".
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Re: A Super Jubilee
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10/31/15 11:38 AM
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Do you have any thoughts as to how the "the sons of Levi" will be purified?
Is this the time when the Shaking will increase?
The encroachment of the Omega Apostasy?
The first intimations of Sunday laws inciting persecution?
"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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Re: A Super Jubilee
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11/01/15 09:27 PM
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All of the above. I've studied The Shaking vision in EW page 269 for years and I think it's coming on us now. That is both the good news and the bad news.
BTW, your signature text is one of my favorites.
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Re: A Super Jubilee
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11/03/15 03:41 PM
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From what I was able to read, it talks about the year being based upon solstices and equinoxes. That's not Biblical, right, but from "Enoch"? While a solstice could be determined within a few days, how does one determine equinox? How it Works in 2015
So, how does the calendar work? The inspired texts indicate the
solar year is primary and starts at the spring equinox. But how do
we determine which day of the week is New Year's Day? Above
we saw that in the solar year the weeks and months are
synchronized with the year. In the creation account although the
sun was created on the fourth day, time began on the first day. If
creation week was the first week of the New Year and by
definition it would be, then the first day of the creation was New
Year's day, a Sunday.
Taking 2015 as our example, the equinox occurred on Saturday
March 21, at about 12:45 AM Jerusalem time or Friday March 20,
22:45 Universal Time5
always a Sunday and given that a biblical day runs from sundown
to sundown, the solar New Year's Day started on the first
“Sunday” after the equinox – that is it started on the evening of
Saturday March 21 and ended the following evening of Sunday
March 22.
. Given that the Solar New Years Day is
Must need to read more because why does Sunday have to start a year, why if creation was new year's day and a Sunday then this year's new year's day must start on the first Sunday after the Equinox rather than on it? Whether actual sighting or calculation of first "visible" moon, can the full moon be on the 15th? Doesn't it have to be conjunction for it to be full on the 15th? And, seems like I've asked this before, how does any of this relate to a round world? Or are we to look to "Old Jerusalem"?
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