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Re: Global Warming Farce
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09/15/15 02:50 PM
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Using fission in general of any material:
What I did ask was: If Iran were to be allowed to use centrifuges for producing nuclear bombs and missiles, would you say they would be making use of the same destructive power as Japan did by failing to have a backup plan for their nuclear reactors resulting in all kinds of death and destruction?
Back to your question. "If Iran were to be allowed to use centrifuges for producing nuclear bombs and missiles, would you say they would be making use of the same destructive power as Japan did by failing to have a backup plan for their nuclear reactors resulting in all kinds of death and destruction?" Okay, one more attempt to answer your question. As I said before, I don't know enough about nuclear material to say, Yes or No. That is, I don't know if the two sources of nuclear material yield the "same destructive power". Do you have a follow up question? Do you also not know enough about what "fission" is? What about ionizing radiation? Also, what do you mean by saying Japan made use of destructive nuclear power? I mean by ionizing fission materials. I'm guessing after all these attempts to get you to answer the question, and you refusing, answering other questions, or saying you don't know the technical details of nuclear power tells me one thing, not one, but several: - You know full well what is being asked, but do not wish to answer it.
- You know full well that to answer it is to acknowledge what APL has explained to you in the past.
- You know full well that by answering truthfully you will have to acknowledge you are wrong about interpreting one of your oft quoted passages:
A single angel destroyed all the first-born of the Egyptians and filled the land with mourning. When David offended against God by numbering the people, one angel caused that terrible destruction by which his sin was punished. The same destructive power exercised by holy angels when God commands, will be exercised by evil angels when He permits. There are forces now ready, and only waiting the divine permission, to spread desolation everywhere. {GC 614.2}
I will assume you know full well, understand my question, and realize I know you do. Whether you answer it or not does not change that.
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Re: Global Warming Farce
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09/15/15 02:56 PM
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We are in the endtime now or we are not.
Immediately before Christ comes, Joel describes drought and heat waves and misery.
So is the hand of God bringing about that which He has ordained or is it just a part of the natural cycle?
If you think what Joel describes is happening now, you have deceived yourself. You haven't seen anything, yet. You will be greatly surprised.
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Re: Global Warming Farce
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09/15/15 03:15 PM
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From http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/envir...arming-industryFor well over a decade now, climate alarmists have been claiming that snow would soon become a thing of the past. In March 2000, for example, “senior research scientist” David Viner, working at the time for the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia, told the U.K. Independent that within “a few years,” snowfall would become “a very rare and exciting event” in Britain. “Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” he was quoted as claiming in the article, headlined “Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past.”
The very next year, snowfall across the United Kingdom increased by more than 50 percent. In 2008, perfectly timed for a “global warming” legislation debate in Parliament, London saw its first October snow since 1934 — or possibly even 1922, according to the U.K. Register. “It is unusual to have snow this early,” a spokesperson for the alarmist U.K. Met office admitted to The Guardian newspaper. By December of 2009, London saw its heaviest levels of snowfall in two decades. In 2010, the coldest U.K. winter since records began a century ago blanketed the islands with snow.
After the outlandish predictions of snowless winters failed to materialize, the CRU dramatically changed its tune on snowfall. All across Britain, in fact, global-warming alarmists rushed to blame the record cold and heavy snow experienced in recent years on — you guessed it! — global warming. Less snow: global warming. More snow: global warming. Get it? Good.From http://thefederalist.com/2015/04/24/seven-big-failed-environmentalist-predictions/ Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions…. By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.
I love the part about how “demographers agree almost unanimously.” Sound familiar? I don’t know whether that was really true in 1970, but if they did, they were almost unanimously wrong.
Let’s just take India, where the famines were supposed to start. In 2013, India became the world’s “seventh-largest exporter of agricultural products.” China is prosperous and relatively well-fed—much better than under Mao’s disastrous experiments. Most Latin American countries, which were supposed to be starving fifteen years ago, are also net exporters of grain, fruit, meat, and so on.
If there is one thing that global warming predicts, that is nothing. You just have to wait to see what to blame on it. Yep, blame the weather when bad things happen.
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Re: Global Warming Farce
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09/15/15 07:12 PM
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From A.T.Jones, written 120 years ago:
"The papacy "can see what is to be." She sees approaching, the time of commotion and upheaval and revolution which careful thinkers also see; which cause statesmen to be uneasy, and which are making rulers to fear: and she proposes to take advantage of it all to exalt herself once more to the place of supremacy among the nations and over their peoples. This is her own definitely laid-out plan, and to know it, is important. She likewise knows that the United States is leading the world, and that this country will therefore necessarily have a leading influence in shaping the solution of "the terrible problem;" consequently, she proposes to control the United States, and through this solve the problem to her satisfaction. {March 28, 1895 ATJ, AMS 97.3}
Has not the papacy had experience in just this course of things? Has not the papacy seen, practically, the world once in its death agony? The Roman Empire,—she saw it go to pieces, and universal anarchy reigning amid the ruins.
She sees the same elements again permeating society and States, the same movements again agitating the nations, and she congratulates herself and exclaims: "Out of the death agony of the world before, I drew life and vigor to myself; upon the ruins of society once, I rose to supremacy over all—I will do it again. {March 28, 1895 ATJ, AMS 97.5}
The "sure word of prophecy" has plain foretold that her scheme will succeed. For thus it stands written: "All that dwell upon the earth shall worship him [the beast, the papacy], whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." Rev. 13:8. And "she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously," saying "in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow." Rev. 18:7. And just then, and "Therefore shall her plagues come in one day... {March 28, 1895 ATJ, AMS 97}
All this shows as plainly as need be, that Rome's scheme, as mapped out and published by herself, is certain to succeed, so far as the world and worldly power is concerned; and that her certain triumph that far, is to bring her certain ruin for evermore.... Such is the course, the success, and the end, of this scheme pertaining to the papal "social pax vobiscum" for America and the world. And at this time, and in view of these things, there is heard "another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins,... {March 28, 1895 ATJ, AMS 97.10}
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Re: Global Warming Farce
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09/15/15 10:02 PM
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I know very little about the details of nuclear energy and ionizing fission materials, other than that scientific knowledge concerning these things has opened the door of making it possible for mankind to seriously mutilate and/or destroy every living thing upon the earth.
I've also been aware that there is/was a big push to convert to nuclear energy because the other energy sources were supposedly emitting to much stuff that caused "climate change". The claim was that nuclear energy was “emissions-free”.
But what about the tons of lethal high-level radioactive waste, and what about the clouds of radio active particles in the atmosphere when something goes wrong? Any "climate change" is NOTHING compared to what nuclear knowledge has done to destroy the balances God placed in our world.
It's interesting how "climate change" is supposed to be the BIGGEST concern of the world.... Yet the nuclear problems which is by far the greater and more terrible risk is being played down as if it were nothing to worry about.
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Re: Global Warming Farce
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09/16/15 01:07 PM
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Any "climate change" is NOTHING compared to what nuclear knowledge has done to destroy the balances God placed in our world.
It's interesting how "climate change" is supposed to be the BIGGEST concern of the world.... Yet the nuclear problems which is by far the greater and more terrible risk is being played down as if it were nothing to worry about.
Amen! That's what I've been saying. And people patting themselves on the back for changing their light bulbs, but failing to adjust their thermostat. They strain gnats but swallow camels.
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Re: Global Warming Farce
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09/16/15 01:10 PM
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http://www.thedailysheeple.com/french-fo...te-chaos_052014Obama is partially right (for once). Climate change is a fact, because well, the climate will always and has always changed. It’s just like saying the wind blows or the rain falls. Always has, always will. That’s why the phrase “global warming” was phased out, actually. The data did not support that the globe was actually warming:
Perhaps the most inconvenient fact is the lack of global warming for well over 10 years now… The lack of warming for more than a decade—indeed, the smaller-than-predicted warming over the 22 years since the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) began issuing projections—suggests that computer models have greatly exaggerated how much warming additional CO2 can cause. Faced with this embarrassment, those promoting alarm have shifted their drumbeat from warming to weather extremes, to enable anything unusual that happens in our chaotic climate to be ascribed to CO2.
…So the concept of global warming had to be replaced with something that couldn’t be so readily argued with.
Oh, and CO2 is not a pollutant, by the way; it’s a necessary component of the life cycle on this planet.
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Re: Global Warming Farce
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09/17/15 11:13 PM
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Personally, I have wondered for a long time now why we haven't used thorium or scalar waves instead?
Nikola Tesla figured out the scalar waves and the USA tested thorium at the Oakridge National Laboratory in Tennessee and they both worked fine.
I believe it is the wine of Babylon being forced on our society. The dragon at work in our government.
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Re: Global Warming Farce
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09/23/15 07:14 PM
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Tell us, which fits in with our fundamental beliefs better, which explains the great controversy better: Evil men and evil angels torturing innocent women and children or Jesus torturing innocent women and children? I believe APL's view explains it best, namely, Jesus withdraws His protection and permits evil men and evil angels to torture and kill innocent women and children. ... He rightly bases his idea on passages like the following: Thank you for making that clearer. Why is it that all this time it appeared to me that you were [maybe ridiculing is too strong, how about mocking] APL for believing this way, that you were questioning how he could possibly believe such a thing?
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Re: Global Warming Farce
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09/25/15 07:41 AM
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I believe Mountain Man may be absent. He said, he was going on an extended wilderness survival retreat to be filmed for The History Channel. I'm not sure of his departure date; however, he is supposed to be gone for a quite awhile, I think he said a couple of months.
May God watch over him.
"...I will not forget you. Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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