Umm, Elle, I really wonder if you should possibly reconsider your faith in "God's Kingdom Ministries and the teachings of Stephen Jones?

If he is directing his members to this Keshe person, perhaps you should check out some of Keshe's claims:


"Mehran Tavakoli Keshe announces he is Messiah"

The following three-page declaration titled "In My name", with his signature and date on the bottom of each page, was released on April 18, 2014 (Good Friday).

Here is a link to the PDF where his signature can be seen:

http://pesn.com/2014/04/20/9602473_Mehra...--18.4.2014.PDF


"In My Name"

"I had to come in the body of the man on this planet and live amongst you the life of the man to understand the way the man has created his misery and so much injustice from the time of his creation for himself and for his fellow men to obtain and hold to nothing but the mirage of the nothingness for his so called life and its physical illusive possessions.

Where, we made all resources of the universe available to him to live in comfort and peace on this planet and among themselves in their time on this planet, that when they are mature intellectually and spiritually (in time the man matures enough), for the tribe of the man to join and unify with the rest of the creation of the creator in the universe.

In this process of maturity, the man chose the path of greed and injustice and killing of not just animals, but of his own kind, and now he has become falsely proud of how many he can kill with one tool and weapon or his false sense of power of control.

Killing and destruction of life has never been part of our teachings and works anywhere in the universe and this shall never be for race and nor shall be from now on this planet or anywhere else in the universe.

To change the course of the life of the man from this wrongful path, we have sent you in so many ways and different forms, different orders and guidance through our messengers of the past.

You have all ignored all our ways to correct your ways, and now you as the race of the man have reached a point that for every action you only think in one way and that is destruction and war.

Today and with this pen, I as the Messiah and I whom took his time to be amongst you, to learn about your shortfalls and false lives, for me to be able to understand your problems, I spent over 55 years with you, worked your ways to be able to help and guide you out of this life of the jungle of this planet, I call up on you to lay down all arms and all thoughts of greed and misconducts and killings.

I chose today to declare my position and status as the creator in the Soul and in the physical body of the man as I am and have chosen to be in, to be amongst you and call up on all the men of this Blue planet and the wild village of the earth, to accept my call for peace and to change your wrongful path, individually, and collectively as the human race for you to be able to live [in] paradise on earth and in the universe.

My call to you, the human race is simple, I have shown you in the past 9 years how to satisfy all your earthly needs with simple methods, and I have written books in simple language that all can understand the principles of the creation as is and not as man has made it to be.

I have shown you how to make food from the air, and I have shown you how to create energy and motion using the same systems and knowledge, that through the creation and production of these needs of the man, one does not harm any creation of mine and that he can live in peace and tranquility amongst the rest of this planets' beings and in the universal community that the men are ready to enter into.

Now; my call goes today (the time of the killing of the son of God) to all men and women and children of this planet, that to halt all these madness of the brain of the man of killing and destruction as a solution to solve and attain earthly and others possessions, and for the Man to lay down all tools of destruction and murder, irrespective of who you are, which religion leader you are the leaders of or which religion and path of belief you follow, and which sector of this planet you think you are the ruler of or you live in.

The job of you, the religious leaders is to guide the man to peace and prosperity, and not to make palaces of shame and dishonesty and protecting those whom have done wrong to other fellow men.

It is our command and wish that you as religious, nations and tribes leaders of regions, nations and cults, first to order as of today for the men whom follow our command through your Churches and Mosques or temples and armies to lay down their arms, and as of today to be of the greatest of sins for any man to be trained or to carry or to be forced the use of any arms, that through this tool and through your guidance, it is to be forbidding the use of killing tools that the man finds new ways and the logical ways of finding peaceful solution for himself and his race, at the time when he does not agree with the given condition.

I do not offer you a reward for following this command, as this is our wish and our wish shall be adhered to with our work through the souls of the men, but in reality in doing so, man will allow himself to enter the universal community, which the greed and the war has no meaning, and with this act, then man can have and will live a life of happiness and fulfillment according to his intelligence and needs anywhere he might be in the universe.

So I call on this day to the world, religious and scientific leaders, to come together and sign the universe peace treaty, which we have sent out to mankind as prelude to this days' declaration in the past two years and with this, signing themselves and their nation and followers to accept this treaty and put an end to all wars and acts of aggression and killing, which have been going on for thousands of years on this planet.

The time of punishment and reward to force the man to submission to go in the right path in his life is over, from this point on, it is the decision of each soul to decide on one path, and that is the path of peace and tranquility and fairness.

If not done so from this day on, and if the leaders of this planet be it religious, tribal or nations refuse to follow this command, your follower rejection of our will, shall lead you to demise of your followers and your nation, and finally I shall make from the man the tribe with the belief in one point and that is one nation on this planet, and the one belief that there shall be no more war.

There are no lines on the ground of this planet or anywhere in the universe to separate races and creations from each other, that with this unity for all men leaves him not only as one body but as one nation and as one creation and one creator to live his life in the universe in peace.

You as children of Adam have suffered enough in the hand of your own wrong doings and others, and now you receive the love of your creator to guide you and protect you in this short path of adjustment and reunion with the rest of the creations in the world of creation. Those whom shall reject my wish, they shall see to their own demise through their rejection by their own fellow men, whom understand the reality of the creation and this wish.

Those who follow our simple command and enter the universal order; they shall see the beauty of the creation with their own conscious and some with their own physical eyes. My love and gratitude to all men and I being so sorry to let you to suffer so long without intervention to help you, but in fact you needed this time in the nursery of the earth to learn and mature.

Now it is the time to guide you and unite this child of the Adam and his family to the rest of the family of the universe and as a perfect child and a peaceful and loving child who is ready to enter the Kingdome of the creators' larger family. I welcome you as the creator into your true dimension of intelligence and love.

Mehran (Mehran Tavakoli Keshe)

(The possessor of love)"




The following link is to Keshe's LiveStreamed workshop of Friday April 18, 2014.
At 108.00, he claims to be the creator of humanity, at 108.20, he claims to be the Messiah we have been praying for!


http://original.livestream.com/keshework...ource=lslibrary


I have visited his site and some others with information about his "power generator". Keshe has been selling them in advance of production since at least 2012. It appears that the preorders have not been delivered.

On his LiveStream, he explains that his "power generator" does not function very well as a single unit and multiple "generators" must be hooked up, so that they can enhance each others performance? His site has lots of mysterious looking gadgets that do not seem to have any function: a needle coated with "nanos", described as not for human use???

An acquaintance of Keshe's posted that he is wanted in Britain on some sort of fraud charge...


Elle, I won't belabour the point by quoting any of the numerous biblical warnings of "false prophets and false Messiahs". I'm sure you know them as well as I do.

It really does appear that Stephen Jones and the God's Kingdom Ministries site are spreading extremely false teachings. I urge you to carefully reconsider any doctrines you may have gleaned from them.

I appreciate your time to do some research into the Keshe Foundation and your concerns. For sure we need to “test all things” and it is commendable to follow the Bereans path as you did.

I did watch a few of his long videos about 2 or 3 years ago of his explanation of this "plasma" energy technology. I didn't have enough physic knowledge to properly evaluate if his discovery was plausible. I gave him the benefit of the doubt knowing that time will tell us if the Lord will be using him and his discovery.

What Keshe put forth, by sending units to most countries leaders of the world, published details of his invention so anyone can reproduce it -- freely, no copyrights, and etc… is no small endeavor. The discovery is potentially so amazing that if it works…..I have no doubt that it would change the world dramatically and quickly.

Plus the timing of Keshe event (October 16th – see the beginning of Jones source of the article that I have omitted) is also of importance for those that heard and saw what the Lord have accomplished last year in the heavenly court on the same date – October 16th.

That doesn’t concern me nor do I see this as an issue.

There’s many sides to a story. Also false witness is an effective tool to discredit a person that you want to silence. I remember in the videos I’ve listened 2 or 3 years ago he was talking about how some countries(England, Canada, USA, etc… those that does Mystery Babylon’s biddings) gave him a hard time and travelling to these were very difficult. Just the fact he is Iranian, he will experience problems with these countries with the sanction against them.
If Keshe did discover an amazing more effective source of power, I can see that Mystery Babylon will attempt everything to discredit him.

If this technology works and the Lord does use Keshe to end this current energy control and wars, then Keshe will be a "Messiah" type just as his ancestor King Cyrus. Cyrus was a Gentile that the Lord called him by name nearly 200 years before he was born. Plus the Lord called a pagan king, “His anointed” (=Messiah) in Is 45:1; because King Cyrus was a type of Messiah when he delivered Israel from the Babylonians.

We know that carnal men are full of themselves, plus you must of noticed that unbelievers, without the guidance of scriptures, can believe in all kinds of weird things. Keshe seems to me to be an unbeliever; so I’m not the least concern of what Keshe thinks he is, or what he believes for it is all irrelevant. Just like it was irrelevant that Cyrus was a gentile and probably had his own weird believes too without the guidance of scriptures. What was relevant is how the Lord used a gentile king like Cyrus to fulfill His judgment on Babylon. So to me, it would be the Lord' style to bring forth another gentile-Cyrus type in the conquering of Mystery Babylon today to follow the TYPE he had laid with old Babylon.

It is very interesting to me to note that Cyrus was Persian(now called Iran); the same as Keshe is from Persia=Iran.

So let's continue to watch what the Lord is doing. If the Lord doesn't use Keshe and his discovery is quackery ....then Stephen Jones mis-read the signs that fell on Oct 16. We are all learning to hear His voice better and trying to understand what the Lord is doing in the world's events. Mistakes is part of the learning process and there's no need to stone our brothers for trying to hear the Lord and trying to understand what He's doing.

Elle, I must say, I am flabbergasted by how casually you dismiss this false Christ and those who directed you to him. Keshe claims to be "the Messiah that we have been praying for", and "the creator". This is the spirit of Antichrist, that which seeks to supplant God. By the way on his website, Keshe is selling his "free" power generators for 499.00 euros apiece. I wonder how many of his followers will choose to build their own when they can obtain one directly from the "Messiah's" hand?


The round brackets below are my added commentary:

"And then if any man (STEPHEN JONES) shall say to you, Lo, here [is] Christ (KESHE); or, lo, [he is] (KESHE IS) there; believe [him] (STEPHEN JONES) not:
For false Christs (KESHES) and false prophets (STEPHEN JONES'S) shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders (MIRACULOUS ENERGY FOR FREE GENERATORS) to seduce, if [it were] possible, even the elect,
But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things."

Mark13:21-23


I apologize for the fill in the blanks method above; however, it is extremely important that you understand who and what you are following.


Please, take a careful look at where you have been led by following the teachings of people such as Stephen Jones and God's Kingdom Ministries.

You have become convinced that the messages sent to guide and keep the Remnant from deception, the writings of God's Last Day Prophet, Ellen White are unreliable!
You have come to believe that the Ten Commandments, DISTINCT from ALL other commands, the ONLY Word of God WRITTEN BY HIS OWN HAND and placed INSIDE of the Ark of the Covenant, the very foundation of His throne, the absolute DEFINITION of sin, have been subtly changed without so much as a minor proclamation by God!
You have been led to accept the possibility that a lying con man, offering signs and wonders, claiming to be the "creator in our souls", claiming to be the "Messiah we have been praying for", the very definition of Antichrist (one who takes the place of Christ) is "a Messiah type"!

(And then if ANY man shall say to you, Lo, here [is] Christ; or, lo, [he is] there; believe [him] not:)



Elle, I really don't know what to say. You have been led astray, and wandered from the simplicity of the Gospel. Consider that when liars talk, they use complex arguements and many, many words. When the Truth is spoken, it is pure, simple, and with few words...

When God states plainly that His Remnant Church "will have the Spirit of Prophesy" (He means they will HAVE it: it will be protected from the interference of humanity),

when He says clearly that every "Seventh Day (of the week) is the Sabbath" (He means, it is sanctified and SEPARATE from all other laws which were placed outside of the Ark),

when He warns His people not to follow the "false Christs" and "false prophets" that will come (He means those who seek to lead you AWAY from what is good and simple and direct).


Please, please, dear Lady open your eyes and see that you are being led to a dark place. I beg you, turn back, turn back to the simple truth of your first Love...

ProdigalOne wrote;

"Elle, I must say, I am flabbergasted by how casually you dismiss this false Christ and those who directed you to him. Keshe claims to be "the Messiah that we have been praying for", and "the creator". This is the spirit of Antichrist, that which seeks to supplant God. By the way on his website, Keshe is selling his "free" power generators for 499.00 euros apiece. I wonder how many of his followers will choose to build their own when they can obtain one directly from the "Messiah's" hand?"

Blessings Elle.

After reading these last posts in this thread, I am also shocked at your relaxed response toward an open and obvious false Christ!

Even if this technology works better than advertised, he is leading souls, that he claims to have been the creator of, into perdition. And I am afraid that that would mean your soul Blessings.

Please, take a step back and renew your first love toward Christ. Spend time again with Him who alone can save fallen human beings regardless of or even without any technology.

Take the time alone with God in prayer and Bible study discovering again the love and tenderness God has toward us, even when we do get confused about God's own nature or character.

This Stephen Jones or Dr. Mehran Tavakoli Kesh is not anyone God's people should be listening to. Pray long and come back to Jesus in His Spirit and Truth and leave this Stephen Jones and Dr. Mehran Tavakoli Kesh alone forever.

God Bless.

Alchemy and Prodigalone you are both misrepresenting what I said by putting words I did not say and putting a spin to it. This is a serious offense that is call false witness. I will give you both the benefit of the doubt that you were not aware of what you were doing.

Neither Stephen or I said nor believes that Keshe is the Messiah. There’s a big difference between calling someone “a Messiah TYPE” and “THE Messiah”. Mark13:21-23 warnings is about believing an individual is THE Messiah.

We SDAs believe that Joseph and Cyrus were both Messiah TYPES. There’s many other characters in the Bible that we give this label to without the fear of being quoted Mark 13:21-23 because we understand this difference.

So maybe you didn’t read my post correctly or you forgot about this difference….whatever was the cause of this false witness…. I extend my understanding to you both and forgive you. We need to be very vigilante not to mis-represent our brothers’ sayings or any of the Lord’s word.


Alchemy I never said he would sell for free his devices that he manufactured. I said that the blueprint or the plans to build these devices were given to the world for free.

Be careful.

Guys, shocked and flabbergasted? You shouldn't be. This is none other than the result of believing in a millennial of peace on earth. And a result of one with a preponderance to casually dismiss facts.

I must admit, that I had thought this might be an answer to our energy issues. I believe there may be untapped "free" energy out there and was ready to watch the youtube videos. But from what you have found out, I'm not sure I want to subject myself to him. It makes one wonder if satan personified could offer free energy of a different untapped kind than what most are looking for. Then Elle tries to casually dismiss this as her "TYPE" stuff. Not so: "Today and with this pen, I as the Messiah".

Nope. This just goes to emphasize more and more against those promoting Jewish feastkeeping, rotating Sabbaths, Sunday as Sabbath, etc. Par for the course.

Elle, here is my post:

"You have been led to accept the possibility that a lying con man, offering signs and wonders, claiming to be the "creator in our souls", claiming to be the "Messiah we have been praying for", the very definition of Antichrist (one who takes the place of Christ) is "a Messiah type"! "

If you read my original post above, you will see that I never said you believed Keshe is the Messiah. I said, you believe he is "a Messiah type".

The "spin" is simply a brother trying to point out an unbiblical view of types.
Your examples of Joseph and Cyrus as types of Christ may be correct; however, applying this symbolism to Keshe is completely unbiblical.

Although, their actions may have typified salvation through Christ, as far as I know, neither Joseph or Cyrus claimed to be the Creator or the Messiah. One who makes such claims exhibits the spirit of Antichrist. This is not exactly a type of Christ!


Keshe's recording and statements were made in 2014 on Good Friday, over a year ago.
It took me less than an hour to uncover his recorded and written statements containing his blasphemous claims of divinity. If Stephen Jones is such a trustworthy individual, why is he, over a year later, still sending unsuspecting followers to this antichristian wolf in sheep's clothing?


"if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect."
Matthew 24:24

Any of us can be deceived. In Love, we must help each other to stay safely in the Light.

Elle, I am not trying to attack or accuse you. I am your brother and am deeply concerned that you have been unsuspectingly led astray.

May our Lord guide you and protect you in Jesus holy name, amen.

Blessings Elle,

The quote you applied to me did not come from me. But, I agree that nobody should put words in your mouth.

I am very much concerned though about what this Stephen Jones and Dr. Keshe are promoting and especially your seemingly support for them. Most notably, the claim by Dr. Keshe that he is the Messiah and the creator of souls, etc....

Please Elle, pray hard for God's insights, wisdom and mercy.

ProdigalOne & Alchemy, you both totally mis-understood what either myself or Stephen purpose and intend in bringing Keshe's discovery. Neither one have even said that Keshe's discovery was going to be used. We both are looking at Keshe as a potential move the Lord might bring to defeat Mystery Babylon.

It is only to understand what the Lord might be doing in the midst of today's WORLD current ENERGY control by Mystery Babylon via Petroleum. If the needs of Petroleum becomes totally obsolete by the discovery of another SIMPLER ENERGY SOURCE & TECHNOLOGY -- then wouldn't it become an END GAME CONTROL for Mystery Babylon? That's all.

Wether Keshe thinks he's the creator and savior of this world, this does not stop the Lord :
1) in giving Keshe this discovery(if this discovery works -- as personally I still don't know if it does),
2)nor will it stop the Lord from using Keshe discovery if He wants to end Mystery Babylon's control with petroleum.

The Lord has used unbelievers (who are often men full with themselves like Keshe is currently thinking of himself) in the past to change the world course as He did with Cyrus. That's why I brought up King Cyrus to show a case where the Lord has used unbelievers before.


You have not said this but for the records -- I did not apply Keshe "Messiah Type" to Joseph "Messiah Type", but to Cyrus "Messiah type". What I understand is all biblical "Messiah Types" show different aspect of Jesus' coming Messianic work. I would agree that applying Keshe to Joseph's Messiah pattern would be a mis-match. Keshe only match the "Cyrus Messiah Type" which is totally Biblical and a perfect match as due to the following similitudes :
1) Cyrus was Persian like Keshe,
2)Cyrus was an unbeliever like Keshe is
3)Cyrus concquered Bybylon and freed the people; like Keshe discovery has the potential to do the same by making the current Mystery Babylon petroleum control and wars obsolete.


I think that's a false assumption. What I see from scriptures, the Lord has always used men and woman, believers or unbelievers, regardless of what they currently believed, how much or little of the truth they knew, no matter how faulty current beieves maybe, and no matter how "usurping" our actions maybe at times.

The Bible does not tell us details of Joseph or Cyrus previous "misunderstandings". I'm sure Joseph had many mis-understandings as we all have limited understandings of the Lord's laws, ways, and plan. We all had misunderstandings; thus have all acted as an usurper and "anti-christs" (in it's negative definition) many times in our own lives. However, that never stopped the Lord from using anyone of us to fulfill part of His plan if He wants to. Most people in scriptures has acted out parts without even understanding what they were doing.

We do know that Joseph did have two dreams that all his brothers and "the moon and sun" bowed down to him. We don't know if Joseph ever made any "messianic" claims, but I can easily see as a potential & typical possibility that Joseph may had some sorta thoughts that he may become the Savior before being in position and seeing what his dream actually meant at the end. He probably died in his grave without seeing nor understanding the prophetic meaning of all that the Lord did in his live.

Whether Joseph had those thoughts or have claimed it publically to his brothers when he first received the dreams -- that is not declare to us in scriptures. You can not make such a claims that Joseph or Cyrus never did have those thoughts or made such Messianic claims when this information is not provided. It is called speculation.
Tx for your concern. Yes anyone of us can be deceived including myself and youself.... Blindness is thick and deep.

However, you should conduct a thorough investigation before passing any accusation on your brothers and sisters.

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