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Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered
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“These plagues are not universal, or the inhabitants of the earth would be wholly cut off. Yet they will be the most awful scourges that have ever been known to mortals.” – The Great Controversy, 629 In the warning of the second trumpet, the one third denotes a partial impact. Otherwise, whole inhabitants would be cut off. An apparent correlation to the second plague obviously voiced in the second trumpet as “the sea became blood” (Rev. 8:8). Below webpage link is one of the evidence of the "great mountain burning with fire cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;" (Rev. 8:8). http://www.naturalnews.com/052685_Pacific_sealife_radiation_cancer_tumors.html
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Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered
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01/29/16 03:10 PM
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And Satan unites with Protestants and Papists, {Mar 191.2} I don't really know about your "religion" part, but say it is. If Protestants and Papists are considered religion, and are part of the 3 frogs, why did she leave out the third part? Unless satan is the third part. For some reason, she quoted Rev 16:13,14 right beforehand....
Things must fit together. Otherwise, well, they don't fit. Karen, could you suggest a reason that Ellen White quoted Rev 16:13,14 right before saying, And Satan unites with Protestants and Papists, {Mar 191.2} and what she may mean by And Satan unites with Protestants and Papists, in that context?
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Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered
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01/31/16 03:41 AM
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Satan unites with all three unclean spirits. That is why the threefold union is called the spirit of devils (Rev. 16:14). The predominant of the three unclean spirits are the Papists and the Protestants, which they influence people with Sunday observance and the immortality in "the spirit of the dragon"(mar 191.2). The three unclean spirits are uniting in the spirit of the dragon, the Satan because they are fearful of the people who bear the seal of God.
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Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered
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So you think she just failed to include the third unclean spirit?
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Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered
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Chap. 182 - The Threefold Union of Religion
And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Revelation 16:13, 14. {Mar 190.1}
By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation [the United States] will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {Mar 190.2} So you think she just failed to include the third unclean spirit? out of the mouth of the dragon -- spiritualism out of the mouth of the beast -- the Roman power out of the mouth of the false prophet -- (apostate) Protestantism Spiritualism is not the same as Satan, Just as Christianity is not the same as Christ. They are two opposite worship systems. When the two main "Christian" systems (papal & Protestant) incorporate spiritualism in their worship -- they are no longer really Christian even though they maintain the name.
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Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered
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02/03/16 10:11 AM
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Chap. 182 - The Threefold Union of Religion
And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Revelation 16:13, 14. {Mar 190.1}
out of the mouth of the dragon -- spiritualism out of the mouth of the beast -- the Roman power out of the mouth of the false prophet -- (apostate) Protestantism
IMHO--A more up to date view: out of the mouth of the dragon -- Satan posing as Pope John-Paul II out of the mouth of the beast -- Pope Francis I out of the mouth of the false prophet -- Pope Benedict Emeritus By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation [the United States] will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {Mar 190.2}
President Bush II reached his hand across the gulf to clasp hands with the Roman power Pope John-Paul II in 2004 when GW presented him a gold medal. President Bush II reached his hand across the gulf to clasp hands with Spiritualism in 2008 when GW presented the Dalai Lama the same gold medal. The Protestants of the United States will be foremost in stretching their hands across the gulf to grasp the hand of Spiritualism; they will reach over the abyss to clasp hands with the Roman power; and under the influence of this threefold union, this country will follow in the steps of Rome in trampling on the rights of conscience.--The Great Controversy, p. 588. This is virtually the same quote as the previous one, but spiritualism and the roman power have been reversed. After GW reached his hand across the gulf to the Dalai Lama, he again stretched his hand across the gulf to the roman power, Pope Benedict XVI, who was a guest at the White House on April 15. The three unclean spirits: Satan as John-Paul II, Pope Francis I, & Pope Benedict are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings: 1) of the earth (Obama) and 2) of the whole world (the other world leaders), to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty (Armageddon). I won't quibble over it, when it happens you'll know it is true. And it will happen soon enough (ISIS is drying up the Euphrates River to prepare the way for Christ's return as I write this post).
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Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered
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The true purpose when the three unclean spirits unit their powers to deceive the world is to get rid of the saints of God. We are told that the Pilate and Herod made friends over the trial of the Saviour. The world’s Redeemer was killed by their unity. Luke 23:12 “And the same day Pilate and Herod were made friends together: for before they were at enmity between themselves.” The Satan is instigator of all these evil powers. There also was unity when the two witnesses were killed which denotes the Word of God. Truth torments the wicked very much that they were rejoicing when they thought they got rid of the Bible (Rev. 11: 10). Rev. 11:10 “And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.” Thus this is the pattern that the purpose of the unity of the three unclean spirits is to destroy God's people in their agenda of Ecumenical movement.
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Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered
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out of the mouth of the dragon -- spiritualism out of the mouth of the beast -- the Roman power out of the mouth of the false prophet -- (apostate) Protestantism
Spiritualism is not the same as Satan, Just as Christianity is not the same as Christ.
They are two opposite worship systems.
When the two main "Christian" systems (papal & Protestant) incorporate spiritualism in their worship -- they are no longer really Christian even though they maintain the name.
Thank you. That sounds clear enough to me. Not Buddhists, not Muslims, not Islam, but spiritualism. Though one could argue all of those are spiritualism. But it's more inclusive than such specific an narrow.
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Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered
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IMHO--A more up to date view:
out of the mouth of the dragon -- Satan posing as Pope John-Paul II out of the mouth of the beast -- Pope Francis I out of the mouth of the false prophet -- Pope Benedict Emeritus
But this seems nothing but confusion. Do you disagree with Ellen White?
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Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered
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02/12/16 11:59 PM
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IMHO--A more up to date view:
out of the mouth of the dragon -- Satan posing as Pope John-Paul II out of the mouth of the beast -- Pope Francis I out of the mouth of the false prophet -- Pope Benedict Emeritus
But this seems nothing but confusion. Do you disagree with Ellen White? Does Ellen White say what you think she says? I'd like to see where you find that she is supposed to disagree with what I shared. I await your reply from the pen of EGW.
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