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Does the Bible Teach that Everybody Is Saved, or that Some Are Saved?
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02/24/16 10:04 PM
02/24/16 10:04 PM
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Does the Bible teach that everybody is Saved, or that some are Saved?
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Re: Does the Bible Teach that Everybody Is Saved, or that Some Are Saved?
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02/24/16 10:09 PM
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Please back up your posts with relevant Bible texts.
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Re: Does the Bible Teach that Everybody Is Saved, or that Some Are Saved?
[Re: Daryl]
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02/24/16 10:13 PM
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I want to begin with John 3:16 quoted below: John 3:16 ASV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life. This well known Bible verse is conditional on believing on Jesus to be saved.
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Re: Does the Bible Teach that Everybody Is Saved, or that Some Are Saved?
[Re: Daryl]
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02/26/16 02:25 AM
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I want to begin with John 3:16 quoted below: John 3:16 ASV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life. This well known Bible verse is conditional on believing on Jesus to be saved. I have heard discussions claiming "limited atonement" and so on. John 3:16 is one text that states clearly that salvation is conditional upon Jesus. But, what does that mean? 2 Peter 3:9 clearly states that God doesn't want any to perish, but, that all would come to repentance! So, we learn that repentance is one such condition. And without repentance, we perish. At this point, I believe we can say that Jesus has made this opportunity of repentance available to all mankind. If we repent based on what Jesus has done for us, we are saved. If we don't! We are lost.
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Re: Does the Bible Teach that Everybody Is Saved, or that Some Are Saved?
[Re: Daryl]
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02/26/16 08:42 PM
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Yes, we have in John 3:16 believe on Him, which would obviously include repentance in 2 Peter 3:9 quoted below: 2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some count slackness; but is longsuffering to you-ward, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
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Re: Does the Bible Teach that Everybody Is Saved, or that Some Are Saved?
[Re: Daryl]
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02/26/16 08:44 PM
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This also tells me that unless everybody repents, there will be people who will be lost, as in not saved, which further tells me that everybody will not be saved.
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Re: Does the Bible Teach that Everybody Is Saved, or that Some Are Saved?
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02/26/16 10:02 PM
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Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. Matthew 7:13-14
Few find the way to life; many find the way to destruction.
By God's grace,
Arnold
1 John 5:11-13
And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Re: Does the Bible Teach that Everybody Is Saved, or that Some Are Saved?
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02/27/16 10:55 AM
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I want to begin with John 3:16 quoted below: John 3:16 ASV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life. This well known Bible verse is conditional on believing on Jesus to be saved. True everybody needs to believe on Jesus to be saved. So this text doesn't say neither if everybody or some are saved. We need to go further in the Bible and see if it answer the following questions : #1. How does an unbeliever come to believe? #2. Does the Bible say everyone will end up believing? I'll let others find the answer to these questions. I do have texts from these two questions that say everybody will be saved. Do you know which ones I'm referring to? Both can be found in the NT.
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Re: Does the Bible Teach that Everybody Is Saved, or that Some Are Saved?
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02/27/16 11:00 AM
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Yes, we have in John 3:16 believe on Him, which would obviously include repentance in 2 Peter 3:9 quoted below: 2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some count slackness; but is longsuffering to you-ward, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. That leads to two questions -- What does the Bible say about: 1. how does a man comes to repentance? 2. Does salvation rest on whether or not a man repent?
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Re: Does the Bible Teach that Everybody Is Saved, or that Some Are Saved?
[Re: Daryl]
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02/27/16 11:02 AM
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This also tells me that unless everybody repents, there will be people who will be lost, as in not saved, which further tells me that everybody will not be saved. How does Righteousness by Faith fit with this deduction?
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