Could you support that? I mean, why haven't you if you are going to proffer the statement?

Please do so.

Read Numbers chapter 35. We've had this particular discussion before elsewhere on this forum, and I don't have time to waste on doing your research for you, but that chapter is where God makes His definitions clear.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Matthew 5:21-22 Ye have heard that it was said to them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22 but I say unto you, that every one who is angry with his brother shall be in danger of the judgment; and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council; and whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of the hell of fire.

Jesus proceeded to show His hearers what it means to keep the commandments of God--that it is a reproduction in themselves of the character of Christ. For in Him, God was daily made manifest before them. {MB 55.1}
"Everyone who is angry with his brother
shall be in danger of the judgment."
Matthew 5:22, R.V.

Through Moses the Lord had said, "Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart. . . . Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." Leviticus 19:17-18. The truths which Christ presented were the same that had been taught by the prophets, but they had become obscured through hardness of heart and love of sin. {MB 55.2}

The Saviour's words revealed to His hearers the fact that, while they were condemning others as transgressors, they were themselves equally guilty; for they were cherishing malice and hatred. {MB 55.3}

Across the sea from the place where they were assembled was the country of Bashan, a lonely region, whose wild gorges and wooded hills had long been a favorite lurking ground for criminals of all descriptions. Reports of robbery and murder committed there were fresh in the minds of the people, and many were zealous in denouncing these evildoers. At the same time they were themselves passionate and contentious; they cherished the most bitter hatred of their Roman oppressors and felt themselves at liberty to hate and despise all other peoples, and even their own countrymen who did not in all things conform to their ideas. In all this they were violating the law which declares, "Thou shalt not kill." {MB 56.1}

The spirit of hatred and revenge originated with Satan, and it led him to put to death the Son of God. Whoever cherishes malice or unkindness is cherishing the same spirit, and its fruit will be unto death. In the revengeful thought the evil deed lies enfolded, as the plant in the seed. "Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him." 1 John 3:15. {MB 56.2}

"Whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca [vain fellow], shall be in danger of the council." In the gift of His Son for our redemption, God has shown how high a value He places upon every human soul, and He gives to no man liberty to speak contemptuously of another. We shall see faults and weaknesses in those about us, but God claims every soul as His property--His by creation, and doubly His as purchased by the precious blood of Christ. All were created in His image, and even the most degraded are to be treated with respect and tenderness. God will hold us accountable for even a word spoken in contempt of one soul for whom Christ laid down His life. {MB 56.3}

Excellent. You are now a number of quotations nearer to comprehending the Biblical distinction between killing and murder. Keep searching! Check out Numbers chapter 35 when you get a chance.

Note: All murder is killing. Not all killing is murder. So the word "kill" is a more general word, but Jesus' words regarding aspects such as "hate" show more specifically to which kind of killing He refers.

By the way, thank you for not expanding to the theological ramifications before defining the terms.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

God is EXACTLY like Jesus. Meek, mild, HARMLESS. IF you keep studying Christ, you will see the His Glory which is His character. Keep searching, lay aside your personal prejudices. See the truth as it is in Jesus. Perhaps then you will have a last message or mercy to the dying world, a message that is illuminating in its influence, saving in its power. God never kills away one. Sin is the cause of death. Christ came to save us from our sins, not what He will do to us if we reject Him. Thus the commandment IS "do not kill". The last ENEMY is DEATH. Shall we call God the purveyor of death? It cannot be. Satan is the cause of sin and death. God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all.

And if you think that sin does not have the power to perhaps you should study the definition of spiritualism.

YES - Ellen White is using the same style of writing as the Bible here.

Did God send the fiery serpents? Did God cause the earth directly to open up? What is going on? Any other scripture that can enlighten us to this event? YES. 1 Corinthians 10:10 Neither murmur you, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.

Is God the destroyer? NO. Satan is the destroyer. God is the source of Life. Satan is the source of death.

Why? Because we are also terribly blinded by transgression? That is what Israel fought. Not because wanted them to, but becaue of the hardness of their heart. Same with divorce. YES - I will use divorce as we are to read the Bible as a whole and how God treated divorce and polygamy shows how God worked with war and fighting. Jesus showed us the truth, that His followers would not use carnal weapons and would not fight. It is a hard truth to learn and most cannot give their own prejudice toward fighting. I pray that the Spirit will open the minds to the Truth.

Moses gave us a tooth for a tooth. What did Jesus say? Numbers 35 is for the hard of heart. We need to get rig of the heart of stone.

How readest thou? Luke 10:26.

How we interpret Scripture in critical. Do we allow the Bible to interpret itself? Or do we believe we can extrapolate the truth from a verse or passage?

I agree with you Elle, using the word "kill" was a bad choice.

Understood.

Satan did not try to destroy himself with the Flood. {PP99.3} But, how can this argument be avoided? "Kill" was the wrong word to start with I think.

I don't know if this fits along with this thread, but;

Matthew 5:22; But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. (KJV) (bold emphasis mine)

I believe this clause "without a cause" has a lot of meaning to this passage of Scripture.

Al - read again what EGW wrote and quoted in Mount of Blessing. Will you scold her for not quoting the right version and leaving out a part that has "a lot of meaning?" Is she taking away words from the book? I think the way she quoted it, that it does have a lot of meaning. Yes, she uses the verse in other places and the only anger that is justifiable is when God's character is slandered. And even then, physical fighting and killing are barred.