Are you talking about something that happened recently in China? If so, you're right, temperature would not have much of a direct effect on that. But that should give you a big clue if you've been following this thread closely.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

In fact, I don't know anyone who approaches the science of global warming in a more holistic manner than I do, including many who might claim to support the concept of warming.
-- Green Cochoa, 7/27/2016

I have a natural gift for looking at many variables simultaneously, and a problem like global warming requires such.
-- Green Cochoa, 7/29/2016

It does seem that Green IS making this thread about him.

Did that bring the following comic to anyone's mind?
http://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2016/06/19

It's not, "The Don".
It's, "The Green".

Chuckle. Well, at least kland is making the thread about me. I am still waiting for anyone to address the facts I presented here. Perhaps this thread was not started to address the facts? If opinion is all we ever wished to talk about here, perhaps we can simply close the thread, as I think the opinions are already rather clear.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

(Well, at least you did think it was funny!)

Green, this thread was started to address the truth in fact.
Green, this thread has the word "farce" in the title. This means that some are saying something that is not true and intended to mislead.

Global warmers have been predicting all kinds of things. It's easy to predict something is going to happen in a few years, but it's harder to face those predictions when the years go by. Several years have gone by. If you had been reading this thread, you would notice that many, if not most, of the global warmer's predictions have not come true, and in fact the truth is just the opposite of their failed predictions. And their failed opinions. (Repeating for emphasis)

Green, are you on the wrong thread?

kland,

I would not have made the short-sighted predictions that others have made. There are, however, some specific points to watch out for in detecting the level of warming. These would include things of global scale and proportions: sea level rise, increased precipitation, increased winds, decreased glaciation, changes in ecosystems (e.g. algal blooms, animals dying off), etc.

Who is looking at all this?

Note that precipitation in a given location might NOT increase. It might even decrease. Southern California comes to mind and its disappointment about having received next to nothing of the expected inundation from El Niño. It is still experiencing drought. But over here in Asia, things may be different. Our monsoon rains and typhoons are on the rise. This past "dry season" I was surprised to see we got multiple rains during the season. Previously, it would sometimes have been dry for six months straight (dust season, as I call it). The winds also picked up. The climate is changing, and it's not from cooling, although things are shifting around and we had an exceptional cold snap during the winter as well, with 60-year lows.

The Philippines got the worst typhoon in recorded history not long ago, called Haiyan. Global warming would predict that such events might increase in intensity, with a caveat: they may decrease in frequency as the shear winds (jet stream) disrupts potential typhoons in the making.

Scientists say 2015 was the warmest on record. Here's their map that shows where the temperatures have changed. Some places got cooler and some stayed the same.



(If that image doesn't load, here is the direct link: https://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads...graph_1860.jpg.)

Those in an area where little has changed might find it easy to fall into the "deniers" camp.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

In other words - we don't know what will happen! That is not very specific...

To be clear enough for you, APL, to understand:

Look for global warming clues to occur on a "global" scale..."local" events can predict nothing by themselves.

Note also that there is an important difference between "intensity" and "frequency."

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Green, this thread is about failed global warming predictions which have failed. Implied is the people who make them. This is not about how smarter you are than anyone else in the world. This is not about whether the world is warming or not as I have come across no one who can show that it is or isn't, nor anyone who can say how it can even be determined.

Green, your link shows 2015 temperature differences compared to 1981-2010. Why so limited? Is that adequate year range?

The hottest year on record from 1880-2015. Is that an adequate number of years compared to how old the earth is to determine if it's cooling or warming? What if we were just starting to take records in 1940 and this was 1970? Is 1880 the "correct" and proper time to start judging the earth's temperature?

The whole thing is a farce, a lie, a creation of Jesuits in order to hurt people.



This is about global warming predictions made by global warming promoters which have failed.

Again, Green, are you on the wrong thread?

Unless you are demonstrating how failed global warming predictors are now changing their predictions to predict nothing so they cannot be held accountable..... (Again, like evolutionists)
In which case, Good Job!

To be clear, one event happens every day that causes global effects, and that is earth's rotation and warming and cooling causes by solar effects. A very small variation in solar output also can have a huge effect. But I know you have taken that into consideration in holistic manner and natural ability to consider all variables.

I grew up in an area that was in the past covered by ice. Shall we conclude that the ice disappeared by anthropogenic climate change? Or is something else happening?

I know a simple method, if implemented would reduce green house gases in half in just 10 years without any change in transportation. Will we do it? Nope. Why?

What does EGW predict and why?

John the Revelator represents the forces of the earth as four winds, which are held in check by angels delegated to do this work. ...

From this vision we can learn why so many are preserved from calamity. If these winds were allowed to blow upon the earth, they would create havoc and desolation. But the world’s intricate machinery is running under the Lord’s supervision. Hurricanes, threatening to break forth, are held under control by the regulations of the One who is the Protector of the trembling ones that fear God and keep His commandments. The Lord holds back the tempestuous winds. He will not suffer them to go forth on their death-mission of vengeance until His servants are sealed in their foreheads. {Ms153-1902}

Frequently we hear of earthquakes, of tempests and tornadoes, accompanied with thunder and lightening. Apparently these are capricious outbreaks of seemingly disorganized, unregulated forces. But God has a purpose in permitting these calamities to occur. They are one of His means of calling men and women to their senses. ...

Local disturbances in nature are permitted to take place as symbols of that which may be expected all over the world when the angels loose the four winds of the earth. The forces of nature are under the direction of an Eternal Agency. Science, in her pride, may seek to explain strange happenings on land and on sea; but science fails of tracing in these things the workings of Providence. Science fails of perceiving that intemperance is the cause of most of the frequent accidents so terrible in their results. Men on whom devolve grave responsibilities in safeguarding their fellow men from accident and harm are often untrue to their trust. Because of indulgence in tobacco and liquor, they do not keep the mind clear and composed as did Daniel in the courts of babylon. They becloud the brain by using stimulating narcotics and temporarily lose their reasoning faculties. Many a shipwreck upon the high seas can be traced to liquor drinking. Time and again have unseen angels protected vessels on the broad ocean because on board there were some praying passengers who had faith in God’s keeping power. The Lord has power to hold in abeyance the angry waves so impatient to destroy and engulf His children. {Ms153-1902}

The same Hand that kept the fiery serpents of the wilderness from entering the camp of the Israelites, until God’s chosen people provoked Him with their constant murmurs and complaints, is today guarding the honest in heart. Were this restraining Hand withdrawn, the enemy of our souls would at once begin the work of destruction that he has so long desired to accomplish. And because God’s long-continued forbearance is not now recognized, the forces of evil are already, to a limited degree, permitted to destroy. How soon human agencies will see blotted out of existence their magnificent buildings, which are their pride! {Ms153-1902}

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In connection with this Scripture, the entire fourteenth chapter of Revelation should be studied much by God’s people. Verses nine to eleven bring to view the special message of warning against worshiping the beast and his image and receiving his mark in the forehead or in the hand. This warning is to be given to the world by those who are mentioned in the twelfth verse as keeping “the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.” {Ms153-1902}

Climate changed has caused is believed to have caused the extinction of glyptodons.