Nadi, you are right on one point, this thread has been derailed, but it's not concerning the "deadly wound" so much as "His Child"'s private interpretation of prophecy in which he is sure Obama is prophesied as the last president and feels everyone MUST accept that interpretation -- he's rather taken over several threads to promote that idea.

As to the close of probation,
Scripture does tell us a time is coming when:



When that proclamation is made in heaven, there is no more probation -- no more turning or changing our spiritual status.

I agree that Christ will not leave His people, He has promised to be with us till the end, He does not forsake His people -- but probation will still be closed.


The signs sweeping the world right now, are showing the great distress that IS prophesied as happening just before the end.

The world is in serious trouble
I believe we are at the edge of eternity --
Probation however, has NOT yet closed, today is still the day of salvation, don't wait to fully accept Jesus as Savior and Lord of your life, today is the time to make our calling and election sure,

lift up your heads for your redemption draweth near--
no matter who the president will be -- (whether Obama somehow stays in, or another one takes that position does not change the fact we are near the end)

If that one text is the sole support for the idea of a close of probation then that doctrine is on fairly shaky ground.

Probation does not close until after the mark of the beast is implemented. Knowing who is going to implement the MoB is something that God has been pleased to reveal in His word.

The present Truth is the right message at the right time. What good is it to know that probation is closed after it has closed? Knowing the events that lead up to the close of probation are helpful, but is that not like seeing how close we can get to it without going too far?

I cannot imagine why anyone would not want to know what God has placed in His word for our benefit. Or why anyone would down play Present Truth or insinuate that those who are giving the right message at the right time are promoting a private interpretation.

The word private in 2 Peter is idios. Same root as idiot or idiotic. A private interpretation fails to consider all that the Lord has revealed in Bible prophecy. A private interpretation--No matter how hoary with age it is- will not be of any value when prophecy is fulfilled.

As to the close of probation, We are at the close (sealing time), but it has not closed. It is time to make our election sure and to warn a dying world before President Obama enacts restrictions that will hinder our freedom to get the message to the world. To fail to understand the 3rd angel's message and to proclaim it forcefully -- now -- is not wise.

Whether Obama is still president at the end of this year or not is NOT the issue. If people believe you, than when a new president takes office in a couple months everyone sighs a big sigh of relief and prophecy receives another black mark because of all the false "wolf" calls.

But the word of prophecy is SURE -- and it does not rest on Obama, it will come to pass no matter who is president.
Yes, we are in the sealing time.
Yes, our freedoms could disappear suddenly, in the very near future.
Yes, religious laws could be passed in the very near future.
Yes, earth's probation could close in the very near future.
(It could even close today for some if one's life were to suddenly cease)


We are to proclaim the 3rd angel's message NOW --
How can you even suggest that is not wise?

The 3 angels' messages of Revelation 14 as I understand them apply to our day and they have been repeated in Revelation 18.



This is the 2nd angel's message that was confirmed by the fall of Pope Benedict in conjunction with the priests' fornication scandal. Between 9/30/2012 to 9/30/2012, I preached that he would not be pope after the spring of 2013. He left office in February 2013 within the timeframe that I understood according to the prophecy.

And there cannot be a 2nd angel's message without the first.



This is the First angel's announcement that the Hour (83-years 4-months from 14 October 1929 to 14 February 2013) allotted to Judge the Living has ended. It comes as a caveat to explain what preceded the 2nd angel's message. The sins reach Heaven in the Judgment Hour.

the third angel's message:



President Obama is the man that will enforce the Mark of the Beast and compel the world to take it. The number of his name is made up to 666 and that he is identified in Daniel 2 & 7, and Revelation 5, 13, & 17.

Your posts have not confirmed my studies of the 3 angels' messages or encouraged me in any way. My understanding of the 3 angels' messages is not shared by you.

So why would a faithful watchman or watchwoman not want to sound the right message at the right time to warn God's people of the pending danger? What blessing is there to wait until that which is prophesied comes to pass before saying anything?



Is it because you have not been involved in the active proclamation of the 3 angels' messages as they have been repeated in Revelation 18, that you are too willing to explain away what I have been blessed to learn over 20-years of prayerful Bible study?

It is easy for some folks to cherry pick at parts of the message when 90% of what I presented has still not been studied in its entirety.

The evidence is what it is. But it is not too late to study the 3 angels' messages and to learn that which God has been pleased to reveal in His word. We are in the sealing portion of the Investigative Judgment and the Day of Atonement is nearing its close. Do not delay in praying that God would remove every barrier that could cast a shadow over His word. If we seek Him with all of our hearts, we will find Him and He will lead us into all truth. But if we presume that we have all the truth that we need, we will truly be Laodiceans who think that we have need of nothing. (they are rich in their own eyes and their fate is that of the "rich men")

If the endtime meaning of the 3 angels' messages are not understood and the Present Truth for our day is discarded, IT IS NOT WISE to rest upon light from past ages as though it is all sufficient.

Is that valid logic?
You suggest that "Google" is THE search engine to determine truth.
What if some other search engine shows some other denomination's site first?

You suggest that a "Google" search's first three pages are from one denomination so it must not be true.

You suggest an idea must be wrong because only one denomination believes it.

Not sure that is valid logic.

The close of probation prior to the second coming is Biblical -- it's part of the last message (three angel's messages) given in Revelation.


When Christ shall cease His work as mediator in man's behalf, then this time of trouble begins and the seven last plagues fall.

In Rev. 7 Four angels hold back the winds of strife-- the sealing work must first be finished before they are let loose.

Rev. 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

What is this seal?
It is a character that shows to whom our loyalty and allegiance is given, and whose kingdom we belong to.

Rev. 14:1... having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
Rev. 3:5 and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

The mark of the beast
It also shows to whom allegiance and worship is being given and to whose kingdom one belongs.
What is said of those who worship the beast and his image and receive his mark?

Revelation 14:9,10.
"And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand. The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation."

This wrath is explained as what?
Rev. 15:1 "And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God."

The "wrath" is the plagues.

Now let's just look at these verses:

There is a sealing work BEFORE the trouble erupts.
Probation is still open during this time -- a last urgent message to fully come to Christ.

When the plagues (the wrath) falls, it is WITHOUT MERCY.
No more mercy. What does that mean -- no more probation.

God's people will be protected from the plagues.

Ps. 91:9 Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
91:10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.


During this time Christ is no longer ministering in the heavenly sanctuary as High Priest.

Will there be any service for the forgiveness of sins in the heavenly temple while these plagues are being poured out?

"And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled." Revelation 15:8.

It will be too late to change, at that time --

Rev. 22:11-12 "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be."

The close of probation is not the focus of the last message. It is a waste of time to worry about the close of probation. Be one in Christ and warn the world with the 3 angels' message as they have been fulfilled in Revelation 18:

1) M2 Babylon is fallen - Pope Benedict resigned because of his priests' fornication
2) M1 The time allotted for the Judgment Hour of the living has ended- sins have reached Heaven
3) M3 President Obama is soon to implement - enforce the Mark of the Beast

Worrying about the close of probation is just running down the clock and wasting time that could be better spent doing the things that need to be done.

Why Nadi?

The Bible first mentions Judgment is set, then after that Jesus comes the second time! What is wrong with that passage?

Although the argument line contains insufficient data to respond to, I will attempt to answer the question.

There is nothing "wrong" with the passage. However, as I see it, the more Biblical support for a doctrine the stronger it is. Therefore, if the idea of a close of probation is based on a single text, and not a very strong one at that, I will not be a strong supporter of that idea, especially in light of the many texts illustrating God's unfailing love, mercy that endures forever, etc.

Then to take a weak idea of a close in probation and start assigning dates to it is just bad religion.