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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
[Re: Charity]
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11/09/16 02:37 PM
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I'm not sure why you felt the need to insert your opinion of what is going to happen or not.
So if Iran does not attack and if Obama doesn't remain in the office, one can conclude that your thoughts on women's ordination is incorrect?
What might have been good advice, turns into a personal platform of your futuristic prophecy. What if you say you speak for the Lord but have not been sent?
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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
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11/09/16 02:45 PM
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God always sends a messenger with a warning before He imposes judgment. God is extremely just and never holds anyone accountable for sin unless they are warned first! So, there isn't any exception to this attribute of God. Really? Leviticus 5:17 "If anyone sins and does what is forbidden in any of the LORD's commands, even though they do not know it, they are guilty and will be held responsible."
"Our vision is often more obstructed by what we think we know than by our lack of knowledge." K. Stendahl
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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
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11/10/16 06:38 AM
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I'm not sure why you felt the need to insert your opinion of what is going to happen or not.
So if Iran does not attack and if Obama doesn't remain in the office, one can conclude that your thoughts on women's ordination is incorrect?
What might have been good advice, turns into a personal platform of your futuristic prophecy. What if you say you speak for the Lord but have not been sent? The entire letter is based on my understanding of Scripture. Trump won, Obama will stay on, and the war with Iran will come in Obama's Presidency. It has been pointed out to me that Obama may stay in power by some other means rather than the #IranUSwar and then the war will follow. I will concede that the events are right and the sequencing may not be as I currently understand it. It is written that we know in part and we prophesy in part but when that which is perfect is come we shall know...
"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
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11/10/16 06:41 AM
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God always sends a messenger with a warning before He imposes judgment. God is extremely just and never holds anyone accountable for sin unless they are warned first! So, there isn't any exception to this attribute of God. Really? Leviticus 5:17 "If anyone sins and does what is forbidden in any of the LORD's commands, even though they do not know it, they are guilty and will be held responsible." Luke 12:48 "But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more."
"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
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11/11/16 02:38 PM
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I'm not sure why you felt the need to insert your opinion of what is going to happen or not.
So if Iran does not attack and if Obama doesn't remain in the office, one can conclude that your thoughts on women's ordination is incorrect?
What might have been good advice, turns into a personal platform of your futuristic prophecy. What if you say you speak for the Lord but have not been sent? The entire letter is based on my understanding of Scripture. Trump won, Obama will stay on, and the war with Iran will come in Obama's Presidency. It has been pointed out to me that Obama may stay in power by some other means rather than the #IranUSwar and then the war will follow. I will concede that the events are right and the sequencing may not be as I currently understand it. It is written that we know in part and we prophesy in part but when that which is perfect is come we shall know... But it sounded like you letter was about your disagreement about Elder Wilson's view women's ordination. Inserting your understanding of scripture was off topic to him. Hearing about the protests in the streets does give the slight hint you may be correct about Obama. Time will tell. But whether it does or not doesn't not infer you have shown from scripture that it is prophesied.
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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
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11/11/16 11:58 PM
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The entire letter is based on my understanding of Scripture. Trump won, Obama will stay on, and the war with Iran will come in Obama's Presidency. It has been pointed out to me that Obama may stay in power by some other means rather than the #IranUSwar and then the war will follow. I will concede that the events are right and the sequencing may not be as I currently understand it.
It is written that we know in part and we prophesy in part but when that which is perfect is come we shall know...
But it sounded like you letter was about your disagreement about Elder Wilson's view women's ordination. Inserting your understanding of scripture was off topic to him. Hearing about the protests in the streets does give the slight hint you may be correct about Obama. Time will tell. But whether it does or not doesn't not infer you have shown from scripture that it is prophesied. As it was in the days of Noah. Some folks will remain in unbelief until it starts raining. He knows what he said in the video message that was presented to the church. And if he has any questions, he can contact me.
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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
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11/12/16 11:15 AM
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Hearing about the protests in the streets does give the slight hint you may be correct about Obama. Time will tell. But whether it does or not doesn't not infer you have shown from scripture that it is prophesied. Time will tell? Wait and see??? The prophecies are clear. The visions: Daniel 2 began with the head of gold Nebuchadnezzar. It ended with the legs Nabonidus and Belshazzar being crushed by Cyrus. Daniel 4 began with the tree that received a deadly wound that was healed before it was finally destroyed. Daniel 7 repeated and enlarged the meaning of Daniel 2 to include kingdoms, and the fourth kingdom was in two phases pagan and papal Rome. Then Heaven explained them as kings from the earth which repeated and enlarged Daniel 2 & 7. Then the final meaning of Daniel 2--Reagan was the head of gold, Bush I the silver, Clinton the brass, Bush II one iron leg that extended his rule into church craft and Obama the other iron leg that extended into church craft. And Christ strikes the image upon the feet when He comes. When the kings of the earth/American Presidents are understood in Daniel 7, Daniel 8 explains that the ram's first horn is Bush I, and the one that comes up last is Bush II. The she/he goat is Bill and Hilary Clinton, Bill is the first horn that was broken and Obama is the second horn that waxes great. The notable ones were the 4 American joint chief of staff. The notable one was Colin Powell who was instrumental to place Bush II in office and then Obama. The prophecy is clearly enlarged in Revelation. Reagan is the white horse rider. Bush I the red horse rider, Clinton rode the black horse (he left office with a surplus, but he had caused the housing bubble that burst after he left that devastated the world's economy), and the last two riders are Bush II who brought death with his statement (9/20/01) that 'the beliefs of Muslims are good' -- Muslims teach salvation apart from Christ, and the rider that brings hell that is on the same horse is Obama. I have prayed, studied, agitated, irritated, shouted from the roof tops, posted until my fingers are tired of typing, written books, articles and cried aloud sparing not until I am resolved that time spent on Laodicea would be better spent on those in the highways and byways who don't have the blessings of Laodicea. When it was too late, Christ said the hour has come take your rest and He went to Calvary. But before it was too late He had urged the disciples to stay awake and pray. I have offered to study the prophecies in detail and answered questions that show that the questioners never looked at my previous answers, but were actively keeping me from working in other fields. The parable of the 10 Virgins is VERY CLEAR when there is no doubt that the last call is true: Christ is at the door, 5 of the virgins are too late: they will never be ready because they slumbered and slept too long. There is no merit in waiting to proclaim the 3rd Angel's Message until President Obama takes a third term. He is the one who will make an image to the beast and enforce the mark of the beast. The liberty that we have now is not going to last forever. What we fail to do now will be much more difficult to do then. My most up to date study is almost finished (2016, The Bible, The Constitution, and Obama's 3rd Term--working title) and the proof reader has the first half of Daniel 11. The balance of Daniel 11 and 12 are written and need only to be refreshed and proof read. I plan to have it done this week so I can send out the 100's of copies that have been pre-ordered. And those who have elected to take the wait and see attitude will see...
"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
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11/12/16 01:52 PM
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His Child: "...Bush II one iron leg that extended his rule into church craft and Obama the other iron leg that extended into church craft."
What then is the significance of the feet part of clay and part of iron? Are you saying that government extension into "church craft" is a blending of strong and weak?
"...I will not forget you. Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
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11/13/16 02:14 AM
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His Child: "...Bush II one iron leg that extended his rule into church craft and Obama the other iron leg that extended into church craft."
What then is the significance of the feet part of clay and part of iron? Are you saying that government extension into "church craft" is a blending of strong and weak? The mingling of churchcraft and statecraft is represented by the iron and the clay. {4BC 1168.8} Let the principle once be established in the United States that the church may employ or control the power of the state; that religious observances may be enforced by secular laws; in short, that the authority of church and state is to dominate the conscience, and the triumph of Rome in this country is assured. {GC 581.1} Bush II formed a religious advisory counsel for the White House. Obama gave it authority to: 1)Identifying best practices and successful modes of delivering social services 2) Evaluating the need for improvements in the implementation and coordination of public policies relating to faith-based and neighborhood organizations 3) Making recommendations to the President and the Administration on changes in policies, programs, and practiceshttps://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/ofbnp/about/councilThis religious advisory board now has authority to recommend to the government to implement religious policies...& practicesdid I answer your question
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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
[Re: Charity]
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11/13/16 02:32 AM
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There is no merit in waiting to proclaim the 3rd Angel's Message until President Obama takes a third term. Amen! We definitely should NOT wait to proclaim the third angel's message. We should be doing that now -- not sitting back and waiting! But the third angel's message is NOT based on Obama. Those who wait for Obama to take a third term before they proclaim the third angel's message may well wait forever until it is too late, as Obama probably will never take a third term. In the mean time so many things are shaping up between Catholics and Protestants with all their jubilee predictions and other plans for 2017, (see here), plus Trump's promise to Christians that if he is president Christian's will have power, its amazing that anyone would be insisting on pushing out the revealed prophetic picture and replacing it with their own speculative theories and calling that the "last message". That "old" prophetic message which you despise as "outdated", which is given us in scripture and the testimonies, is the true message, it's not based on individuals but on institutions, but you have totally rewritten and undermined it's foundations -- why? I pity those 100's who have built their faith on those speculative theories based on specific individuals which you promote, and when Obama passes off the scene their faith tumbles into disbelief at the very time when it is vitally important to be strongly anchored in truth! The REAL prophetic message is being fulfilled, yes we are on the edge of time, why undermine it with ever changing speculative stuff that is NOT the third angel's message?
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