Yes, but you seem to see the opposite.

Neither. We should let the interpretation give us understanding of the vision.

False.

Heaven's interpretation states it is explaining the vision of the four great beasts which came up from the sea.

But Ellen White, (while she had the spirit of prophecy, don't confuse her AS the spirit of prophecy. Revelation 19:10 "for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."), was talking about A beast, "I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb." Not four "beasts". Not great "beasts".
But the beast with lamblike horns was seen "coming up out of the earth." Instead of overthrowing other powers to establish itself, the nation thus represented must arise in territory previously unoccupied and grow up gradually and peacefully.

One beast. Specifically that with lamblike horns. Not overthrowing the other powers.

His child, your mixing things. And using your opinion to interpret the interpretation.

FALSE!

It does not. It interprets the vision. The vision which states:
Da 7:2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

Da 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.

Do you negate Heaven's vision? Or should you try to understand Heaven's interpretation of the vision. The vision of the four great beasts which came up from the sea.

And no, that's not true.
Daniel 7 was understood in Daniel 8 and 9. It was not sealed.

Daniel's last vision was what was sealed. If you let the visions interpret themselves.

No. Not so.

Revelation 13 is about one of the 4 beasts. One beast. Not four.

kland,
I read your two replies to my post.

The truth that is self-evident will stand on its own. God's word will not return to Him void.

In the event that I may not have made myself clear, please pray about it and then after it has time to settle reread what you were replying to. I'm praying for you.
Christian regards

His Child wrote;

"The origin of the beasts has been changed from sea to earth.
The fourth beast now has brass nails-- not mentioned in the vision.
The beasts are cited as KINGS (a word that occurs in the Bible about 2800 times in either Aramaic or Hebrew and with 5 exceptions it is KING(s) never kingdoms."

Your first statement about the origin of the beasts changing is incorrect. We changed from the vision to the interpretation. Consequently, we changed from the symbolic to the literal.

As far as the brass nails in Daniel 7:19, I have never thought on these before, but, they could be left over from Greece. Greece was represented by brass in Daniel 2.

Daniel 7:23 says the fourth beast represents the fourth "kingdom" on the earth. And this is after Daniel 7:17 where the term "four kings" was used. So, I believe the Bible is clear that beast and king both mean kingdom.

The interpretation is what it is an interpretation. Someone in Heaven gave the interpretation as "earth" Thus to understand what Heaven is speaking of, we must understand what the earth is. In Revelation 13, earth is identified as the uninhabited area that we understand to be the United states.

So the question for each one to decide for themselves "Is the earth in Heaven's interpretation in Daniel 7:17 the literal earth or the symbolic earth?"


True that is, BUT the brass is an added feature in the interpretation that is not mentioned in the vision.


That is not necessarily true. Most if not all English translations say that, but the word in the original language is also translated reign, which is consistent with Heaven's depiction that the 4 beasts are 4 kings. The KJV translators knew the 4 kingdom meaning and used it as a model to choose the word kingdom in 7:23.

If they had understood the endtime presidents, they would most likely used the word reign and not contradicted Heaven's interpretation given in 7:17

The bottom line is if we rightly divide the word of God, we will be approved of God.

It is up to the Holy Spirit to impress truth on each soul.

I have told you how I read it and why. But you are not responsible for how I read it unless I am reading it correctly.

In Daniel 7 the first beast was like a lion and the second a bear. Does the bible use those symbols anywhere else?

Proverbs 28:15 "As a roaring lion, and a ranging bear; so is a wicked ruler over the poor people."

A ruler?

I'm taking that as an indication of an "oops" in your book and you don't know how to respond to it.

You assume too much.

If you are not misreading me, then no use to keep telling you that you are mistaken according to my reading of the Scriptures. I hope that you are misreading me...

The 7 heads on the papal-beast:

Revelation 13:3 "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast."

1) It was wounded in 1798 when authority over church and state was subjugated.
2) It was healed in 1929 when authority over church and state was restored.
3) The Scripture is referring to the phase of the beast when it is healed post-1929

History shows us that the papacy has had 6 named heads since 1929
1) Pius (a pope Pius [VI] got the wound & a pope Pius [XI] was healed)
2) John
3) Paul
4) John-Paul
5) Benedict (he reigned for a short space less than 7 years from Biblical chronology... 29 March 2006 - 28 February 2013 [from the death of Pope John-Paul II on 2 April 2005 - 28 March 2006 was John-Paul II's final year / Benedict's ascension year])
6) Francis
7) Satan

From the perspective of the men who ruled as solo popes:
1) Pius XI
2) Pius XII
3) John
4) Paul
5) John-Paul I
6) John-Paul II (the one that is and will be)
7) Benedict (began his rule during GW's term and ended during BO's term)

When the tally of post 1929 solo popes reached 7, the prophecy shifted from the papal beast to the earth beast.

The horns on the earth beast are:
1) George Walker Bush
2) Barack Obama

The 2nd beast only has 2 horns: not any more.

President Obama is the man identified in prophecy who will make war against the church of God until Christ Comes.

As ancient Babylon had 3 Kings: Belshazzar, Nabonidus, & Daniel when it fell; papal Babylon will have 3 popes--Satan, Francis, and Benedict.

Cyrus was a type of Christ. He dried up the Euphrates the night Babylon fell. ISIS is drying up the people from the Euphrates River basin and the priests' fornication scandal is drying up the flow of Christians into papal Babylon and its apostate daughters.

When Satan appears as a human being (John-Paul II) papal Babylon will have its three kings. Christ will come soon thereafter.

Astonishingly fanciful "interpretation."
All of which is (apparently) based on a single verse, since no other verses were offered.

Which is why I am skeptical of any doctrine which rests on one verse alone.