Unfortunately, your eschatology is far too complex and contrived for me to give serious thought to. There are too many leaps of logic and assumptions. For example:

In reality we do not know the date of "Moses" or of Christ's crucifixion. To assign dates without evidence only serves to "support" individual pet theories.

I suppose that in other posts, or your website, or a book you wrote you have tried to show the continuity of your thought, and I would hope you offered some form of academic, scholarly evidence on which to base your claims. But the posts here on MSDAOL show none of that, so I must disregard this end-time theory.

His child wrote;

"Revelation 13 only deals with the 7 popes from 1929 when the deadly wound was healed--it goes to Benedict (who was the last solo pope) and then the prophecy shifts to the American beast. That is the way that God had John to write it."

Revelation 13 only mentions the seven heads, that is true. But, in Revelation 17 this prophecy is expanded to include an eighth kingdom, who is supposed to come from the original seven heads or kingdoms. I know you say popes instead of kingdoms, but, I will refrain from saying popes as I don't agree with the popes point.

Francis I can not be the eighth for the reasons I have already mentioned.

What??? We are NOT talking about God's judgment in the end -- We are talking about every day affairs with the Holy Spirit moving on the hearts of men.

You implied above that God needs people's permission to do His work via the Holy Spirit. I said that's not found in the Bible -- God is sovereign over man(doesn't need man's permission) and not vice versa.

Then you rephrased yourself saying "if we refuse...He will stop....When the Holy Spirit stops moving on the heart...probation has closed on that person".

OK, I didn't notice before that you did correct your first statement with this one saying the Lord can act on man's heart without his permission, [but you are assuming here that the Lord QUITS TRYING after some time because man refused Him.

THUS wouldn't you say that this would result in a faillure? That the Lord has failed to fulfill His NEW covenant Vow for He failed to write His laws in that individual heart?

Aren't we contradicting ourselves as we SDAs also believe that all of the Lord's words will be fulfilled?

Blessings Elle,

I directly answered your question. You obviously are not understanding me. Just leave it at that.

And if anyone waits to drink the cool-aid to get on the space ship behind the comet....


Are you saying Pius VI was the 5th head or not?
Where in the Bible does it say to restart the count of heads after the healing of the wound to the head?



Did the 5th head suffer the deadly wound? If not, which number?

And that is why I am not inclined to purchase or spend time reading his books. One would assume that for the most part his daily thought process would be reflected in his book. Hence your comment supports my inclination.

One glaring issue is where is the Biblical support to start any count at 1929. I am still waiting for his answer.

Revelation 13:3 "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast."

The head was wounded in 1798. So this text cannot be referring to the wounded head but to the papacy after "his deadly wound was healed"

So much evidence has been presented so many times. It has been explained away. Is it evidence that you really want?

What I really look for is legitimate Biblical scholarship using accepted methods of biblical interpretation. This is so rare to find.
Each statement or conclusion must be supported by a legitimate reading of the text. You do not do this. Neither does Elle. Dedication tries, but is (unfortunately) heavily influenced by Ellen White.
We must return to the actual text of scripture, and must not impose our bias onto the text. This is so difficult to do, mainly because we do not realize that we are doing it.
WE MUST CHALLENGE EVERY STATEMENT WE MAKE, AND INSURE THAT IT IS SUPPORTED BY A LEGETIMATE READING OF SCRIPTURE.

It sounds good to read what you wrote.

But Obviously your words don't mean what they appear to say. Since White's writings were SUPPORTED BY A LEGITIMATE READING OF SCRIPTURE and you fault Dedication because she "heavily influenced by Ellen White." It appears that you are looking to prove your own agenda in spite of what you wrote.

From reading EGW, I would conclude that Dedication is misreading EGW and doing harm to the flock by placing a traditional spin on White's words that is not appropriate. But since Dedication is in harmony with so many if not most of the other SDA's in misreading EGW, it is not an easy task to correct their errors.

And since my reading of the Scriptures in conjunction with EGW has correctly predicted (from 9/30/11-9/30/12 ... before it happened) that pope Benedict would not be pope after the Spring of 2013 and it came to pass, my correct reading of the Scriptures and of EGW is verified by the event prophesied. But Dedication and most SDA's conclude that even a false prophet can be right sometimes. So when I follow the prophecy to the next stage and allow it to identify the very President that will be in charge of the image beast when it moves against God's Covenant and God's people, they prefer the wait and see approach rather than to study the Scriptures that predict the event. That is how it was in Noah's day and how it will be at Christ's Coming.

And Nadi, from what I have read of your positions, of reading the Scriptures apart from EGW is not any better.

The wheat and the tares will grow together until the harvest, and when Jesus asks "How readest thou," some will go into their joy in the LORD and others will cry Lord, Lord as Christ turns from them.

We do well to be awake now and tomorrow will take care of itself.

And regarding my books. Some folks have missed some of my comments and others have pressed me to spend time reposting things over and over again. It is time consuming and not very productive to try to feed the starving saints a diet that they despise. Time better spent is to put everything in its proper place and setting and all together so that starving souls can have the information at the right time. NO sense to write a book that explains why President Obama is going to be the last American President and not have it in print before he usurps his third term.