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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: dedication] #181901
11/13/16 01:54 PM
11/13/16 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: dedication
Originally Posted By: Hischild
There is no merit in waiting to proclaim the 3rd Angel's Message until President Obama takes a third term.


Amen!
We definitely should NOT wait to proclaim the third angel's message. We should be doing that now -- not sitting back and waiting!
But the third angel's message is NOT based on Obama.


When Obama is so clearly identified in Scripture and the Spirit of prophecy as the President that is consumed by the flames of Christ's glory, and the final little horn on the earth beast in Revelation 13; how can you truly give the third Angel's message without mentioning him?

Originally Posted By: dedication


Those who wait for Obama to take a third term before they proclaim the third angel's message may well wait forever until it is too late, as Obama probably will never take a third term.


Those who take the wait and see attitude that you are taking to see if Obama gets a 3rd term are doing immeasurable damage to the Church and persuading others of a false sense of security. The virgins that sleep and slumber until the proclamation is so clear that no one can refute it: Christ will come while Obama is in office, are not promised time to get ready. Then it is too late for them to get ready to meet our Lord. They have squandered the time that they could have left their Laodicean self-security and studied to show themselves approved of God.

You don't have the right message at the right time and you are casting your influence against those who do. Your unbelief causes you not to look past your preconceived notions and thus to rest in Laodicean asurety that you have need of nothing.

Originally Posted By: dedication

In the mean time so many things are shaping up between Catholics and Protestants with all their jubilee predictions and other plans for 2017,
(see here), plus Trump's promise to Christians that if he is president Christian's will have power, its amazing that anyone would be insisting on pushing out the revealed prophetic picture and replacing it with their own speculative theories and calling that the "last message".


Lumping comments about truth and error are confusion, it is not of God.

Originally Posted By: dedication

That "old" prophetic message which you despise as "outdated", which is given us in scripture and the testimonies, is the true message, it's not based on individuals but on institutions, but you have totally rewritten and undermined it's foundations -- why?


You misrepresent my views that you despise and project your errors upon me so masterfully.

I love and teach that "old" prophetic message in its proper place. The three angels' messages are not dead messages about the judgment of the dead. That was yesterday's Present Truth!

The Three Angels' Messages for today is that the Judgment Hours allotted for the dead and living have ended. We are in the final sealing time. Babylon has fallen with the resignation of Pope Benedict because of the priests' fornication scandal. The kings from the earth have committed fornication with Babylon (the Supreme Court and Obama have accepted the homosexual fornication of Babylon as the law of the land). Babylon is the cage of every unclean bird and Pope Francis has had a light show projected on St Peter's to reaffirm it.

The Third angel proclaims "don't take the Mark of the Beast" and the Bible clearly identifies Obama as the man that will enforce that mark. And when I put the prophecies in their right focus, you do your... to trample them down and say all manor of evil against me.

Originally Posted By: dedication


I pity those 100's who have built their faith on those speculative theories based on specific individuals which you promote, and when Obama passes off the scene their faith tumbles into disbelief at the very time when it is vitally important to be strongly anchored in truth!


If only you would wake up to the foolishness of you folly and repent and study without your blinding biases before it is too late!

Originally Posted By: dedication

The REAL prophetic message is being fulfilled, yes we are on the edge of time, why undermine it with ever changing speculative stuff that is NOT the third angel's message?


Originally Posted By: Revelation 22:19
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: His child] #181913
11/15/16 06:53 AM
11/15/16 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: His child
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
His Child:
"...Bush II one iron leg that extended his rule into church craft and Obama the other iron leg that extended into church craft."


What then is the significance of the feet part of clay and part of iron? Are you saying that government extension into "church craft" is a blending of strong and weak?


Originally Posted By: EGW
The mingling of churchcraft and statecraft is represented by the iron and the clay. {4BC 1168.8}


Originally Posted By: EGW
Let the principle once be established in the United States that the church may employ or control the power of the state; that religious observances may be enforced by secular laws; in short, that the authority of church and state is to dominate the conscience, and the triumph of Rome in this country is assured. {GC 581.1}


Bush II formed a religious advisory counsel for the White House.

Obama gave it authority to:
1)Identifying best practices and successful modes of delivering social services
2) Evaluating the need for improvements in the implementation and coordination of public policies relating to faith-based and neighborhood organizations
3)Making recommendations to the President and the Administration on changes in policies, programs, and practices
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/ofbnp/about/council


This religious advisory board now has authority to recommend to the government to implement religious policies...& practices


did I answer your question




HC, thank-you for the Ellen White quote: interesting stuff!


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: His child] #181914
11/15/16 07:08 AM
11/15/16 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted By: His child
Originally Posted By: dedication
Originally Posted By: Hischild
There is no merit in waiting to proclaim the 3rd Angel's Message until President Obama takes a third term.


Amen!
We definitely should NOT wait to proclaim the third angel's message. We should be doing that now -- not sitting back and waiting!
But the third angel's message is NOT based on Obama.


When Obama is so clearly identified in Scripture and the Spirit of prophecy as the President that is consumed by the flames of Christ's glory, and the final little horn on the earth beast in Revelation 13; how can you truly give the third Angel's message without mentioning him?

Originally Posted By: dedication


Those who wait for Obama to take a third term before they proclaim the third angel's message may well wait forever until it is too late, as Obama probably will never take a third term.


Those who take the wait and see attitude that you are taking to see if Obama gets a 3rd term are doing immeasurable damage to the Church and persuading others of a false sense of security. The virgins that sleep and slumber until the proclamation is so clear that no one can refute it: Christ will come while Obama is in office, are not promised time to get ready. Then it is too late for them to get ready to meet our Lord. They have squandered the time that they could have left their Laodicean self-security and studied to show themselves approved of God.

You don't have the right message at the right time and you are casting your influence against those who do. Your unbelief causes you not to look past your preconceived notions and thus to rest in Laodicean asurety that you have need of nothing.

Originally Posted By: dedication

In the mean time so many things are shaping up between Catholics and Protestants with all their jubilee predictions and other plans for 2017,
(see here), plus Trump's promise to Christians that if he is president Christian's will have power, its amazing that anyone would be insisting on pushing out the revealed prophetic picture and replacing it with their own speculative theories and calling that the "last message".


Lumping comments about truth and error are confusion, it is not of God.

Originally Posted By: dedication

That "old" prophetic message which you despise as "outdated", which is given us in scripture and the testimonies, is the true message, it's not based on individuals but on institutions, but you have totally rewritten and undermined it's foundations -- why?


You misrepresent my views that you despise and project your errors upon me so masterfully.

I love and teach that "old" prophetic message in its proper place. The three angels' messages are not dead messages about the judgment of the dead. That was yesterday's Present Truth!

The Three Angels' Messages for today is that the Judgment Hours allotted for the dead and living have ended. We are in the final sealing time. Babylon has fallen with the resignation of Pope Benedict because of the priests' fornication scandal. The kings from the earth have committed fornication with Babylon (the Supreme Court and Obama have accepted the homosexual fornication of Babylon as the law of the land). Babylon is the cage of every unclean bird and Pope Francis has had a light show projected on St Peter's to reaffirm it.

The Third angel proclaims "don't take the Mark of the Beast" and the Bible clearly identifies Obama as the man that will enforce that mark. And when I put the prophecies in their right focus, you do your... to trample them down and say all manor of evil against me.

Originally Posted By: dedication


I pity those 100's who have built their faith on those speculative theories based on specific individuals which you promote, and when Obama passes off the scene their faith tumbles into disbelief at the very time when it is vitally important to be strongly anchored in truth!


If only you would wake up to the foolishness of you folly and repent and study without your blinding biases before it is too late!

Originally Posted By: dedication

The REAL prophetic message is being fulfilled, yes we are on the edge of time, why undermine it with ever changing speculative stuff that is NOT the third angel's message?


Originally Posted By: Revelation 22:19
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.






HC, I must agree with Dedication, your theories are highly speculative.

Hopefully, on January 20th you will realize and accept that your private interpretation
is misguided and incorrect.


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: His child] #181921
11/16/16 05:03 PM
11/16/16 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: His child

Daniel 2 began with the head of gold Nebuchadnezzar.
That's in the Bible.

Quote:
Then the final meaning of Daniel 2--Reagan was the head of gold, Bush I the silver, Clinton the brass, Bush II one iron leg that extended his rule into church craft and Obama the other iron leg that extended into church craft.
And that, my friend, is not.

Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: ProdigalOne] #181935
11/18/16 10:27 PM
11/18/16 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Originally Posted By: His child
Originally Posted By: dedication
Originally Posted By: Hischild
There is no merit in waiting to proclaim the 3rd Angel's Message until President Obama takes a third term.


Amen!
We definitely should NOT wait to proclaim the third angel's message. We should be doing that now -- not sitting back and waiting!
But the third angel's message is NOT based on Obama.


When Obama is so clearly identified in Scripture and the Spirit of prophecy as the President that is consumed by the flames of Christ's glory, and the final little horn on the earth beast in Revelation 13; how can you truly give the third Angel's message without mentioning him?

Originally Posted By: dedication


Those who wait for Obama to take a third term before they proclaim the third angel's message may well wait forever until it is too late, as Obama probably will never take a third term.


Those who take the wait and see attitude that you are taking to see if Obama gets a 3rd term are doing immeasurable damage to the Church and persuading others of a false sense of security. The virgins that sleep and slumber until the proclamation is so clear that no one can refute it: Christ will come while Obama is in office, are not promised time to get ready. Then it is too late for them to get ready to meet our Lord. They have squandered the time that they could have left their Laodicean self-security and studied to show themselves approved of God.

You don't have the right message at the right time and you are casting your influence against those who do. Your unbelief causes you not to look past your preconceived notions and thus to rest in Laodicean asurety that you have need of nothing.

Originally Posted By: dedication

In the mean time so many things are shaping up between Catholics and Protestants with all their jubilee predictions and other plans for 2017,
(see here), plus Trump's promise to Christians that if he is president Christian's will have power, its amazing that anyone would be insisting on pushing out the revealed prophetic picture and replacing it with their own speculative theories and calling that the "last message".


Lumping comments about truth and error are confusion, it is not of God.

Originally Posted By: dedication

That "old" prophetic message which you despise as "outdated", which is given us in scripture and the testimonies, is the true message, it's not based on individuals but on institutions, but you have totally rewritten and undermined it's foundations -- why?


You misrepresent my views that you despise and project your errors upon me so masterfully.

I love and teach that "old" prophetic message in its proper place. The three angels' messages are not dead messages about the judgment of the dead. That was yesterday's Present Truth!

The Three Angels' Messages for today is that the Judgment Hours allotted for the dead and living have ended. We are in the final sealing time. Babylon has fallen with the resignation of Pope Benedict because of the priests' fornication scandal. The kings from the earth have committed fornication with Babylon (the Supreme Court and Obama have accepted the homosexual fornication of Babylon as the law of the land). Babylon is the cage of every unclean bird and Pope Francis has had a light show projected on St Peter's to reaffirm it.

The Third angel proclaims "don't take the Mark of the Beast" and the Bible clearly identifies Obama as the man that will enforce that mark. And when I put the prophecies in their right focus, you do your... to trample them down and say all manor of evil against me.

Originally Posted By: dedication


I pity those 100's who have built their faith on those speculative theories based on specific individuals which you promote, and when Obama passes off the scene their faith tumbles into disbelief at the very time when it is vitally important to be strongly anchored in truth!


If only you would wake up to the foolishness of you folly and repent and study without your blinding biases before it is too late!

Originally Posted By: dedication

The REAL prophetic message is being fulfilled, yes we are on the edge of time, why undermine it with ever changing speculative stuff that is NOT the third angel's message?


Originally Posted By: Revelation 22:19
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.






HC, I must agree with Dedication, your theories are highly speculative.

Hopefully, on January 20th you will realize and accept that your private interpretation
is misguided and incorrect.


So on Jan 20 I could be embarrassed, but if it is as I have said, I fear that the parable of the 10 virgins will play itself out in a most undesirable way in the case Dedication and those who were too busy to really look at the facts before they ran down the clock.

When it was raining and they knew that Noah was right it was too late to prepare to get into the ark. Christ said as it was in the Days of Noah, don't you suppose that is what He meant?


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: kland] #181936
11/18/16 10:30 PM
11/18/16 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: His child

Daniel 2 began with the head of gold Nebuchadnezzar.
That's in the Bible.

Quote:
Then the final meaning of Daniel 2--Reagan was the head of gold, Bush I the silver, Clinton the brass, Bush II one iron leg that extended his rule into church craft and Obama the other iron leg that extended into church craft.
And that, my friend, is not.


If you have not looked at the texts, studied, the proof and prayed about it -- how can you be so sure?

Doesn't the Bible say something about deciding a matter before hearing all the facts?


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: His child] #181938
11/19/16 02:06 AM
11/19/16 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted By: His child
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Originally Posted By: His child
Originally Posted By: dedication
[quote=Hischild]There is no merit in waiting to proclaim the 3rd Angel's Message until President Obama takes a third term.


Amen!
We definitely should NOT wait to proclaim the third angel's message. We should be doing that now -- not sitting back and waiting!
But the third angel's message is NOT based on Obama.


When Obama is so clearly identified in Scripture and the Spirit of prophecy as the President that is consumed by the flames of Christ's glory, and the final little horn on the earth beast in Revelation 13; how can you truly give the third Angel's message without mentioning him?

Originally Posted By: dedication


Those who wait for Obama to take a third term before they proclaim the third angel's message may well wait forever until it is too late, as Obama probably will never take a third term.


Those who take the wait and see attitude that you are taking to see if Obama gets a 3rd term are doing immeasurable damage to the Church and persuading others of a false sense of security. The virgins that sleep and slumber until the proclamation is so clear that no one can refute it: Christ will come while Obama is in office, are not promised time to get ready. Then it is too late for them to get ready to meet our Lord. They have squandered the time that they could have left their Laodicean self-security and studied to show themselves approved of God.

You don't have the right message at the right time and you are casting your influence against those who do. Your unbelief causes you not to look past your preconceived notions and thus to rest in Laodicean asurety that you have need of nothing.

Originally Posted By: dedication

In the mean time so many things are shaping up between Catholics and Protestants with all their jubilee predictions and other plans for 2017,
(see here), plus Trump's promise to Christians that if he is president Christian's will have power, its amazing that anyone would be insisting on pushing out the revealed prophetic picture and replacing it with their own speculative theories and calling that the "last message".


Lumping comments about truth and error are confusion, it is not of God.

Originally Posted By: dedication

That "old" prophetic message which you despise as "outdated", which is given us in scripture and the testimonies, is the true message, it's not based on individuals but on institutions, but you have totally rewritten and undermined it's foundations -- why?


You misrepresent my views that you despise and project your errors upon me so masterfully.

I love and teach that "old" prophetic message in its proper place. The three angels' messages are not dead messages about the judgment of the dead. That was yesterday's Present Truth!

The Three Angels' Messages for today is that the Judgment Hours allotted for the dead and living have ended. We are in the final sealing time. Babylon has fallen with the resignation of Pope Benedict because of the priests' fornication scandal. The kings from the earth have committed fornication with Babylon (the Supreme Court and Obama have accepted the homosexual fornication of Babylon as the law of the land). Babylon is the cage of every unclean bird and Pope Francis has had a light show projected on St Peter's to reaffirm it.

The Third angel proclaims "don't take the Mark of the Beast" and the Bible clearly identifies Obama as the man that will enforce that mark. And when I put the prophecies in their right focus, you do your... to trample them down and say all manor of evil against me.

Originally Posted By: dedication


I pity those 100's who have built their faith on those speculative theories based on specific individuals which you promote, and when Obama passes off the scene their faith tumbles into disbelief at the very time when it is vitally important to be strongly anchored in truth!


If only you would wake up to the foolishness of you folly and repent and study without your blinding biases before it is too late!

Originally Posted By: dedication

The REAL prophetic message is being fulfilled, yes we are on the edge of time, why undermine it with ever changing speculative stuff that is NOT the third angel's message?


Originally Posted By: Revelation 22:19
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.






HC, I must agree with Dedication, your theories are highly speculative.

Hopefully, on January 20th you will realize and accept that your private interpretation
is misguided and incorrect.


So on Jan 20 I could be embarrassed, but if it is as I have said, I fear that the parable of the 10 virgins will play itself out in a most undesirable way in the case Dedication and those who were too busy to really look at the facts before they ran down the clock.

When it was raining and they knew that Noah was right it was too late to prepare to get into the ark. Christ said as it was in the Days of Noah, don't you suppose that is what He meant? [/quote]You are claiming that probation closes if Obama remained in office after January 20.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: Charity] #181939
11/19/16 09:13 AM
11/19/16 09:13 AM
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Interesting how my words are posted by APL
is it the miracle of cut and paste? Or...?

So on Jan 20 I could be embarrassed, but if it is as I have said, I fear that the parable of the 10 virgins will play itself out in a most undesirable way in the case Dedication and those who were too busy to really look at the facts before they ran down the clock.

When it was raining and they knew that Noah was right it was too late to prepare to get into the ark. Christ said as it was in the Days of Noah, don't you suppose that is what He meant? [/quote]You are claiming that probation closes if Obama remained in office after January 20.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: His child] #181941
11/19/16 11:59 AM
11/19/16 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted By: Henry
Interesting how my words are posted by APL
is it the miracle of cut and paste? Or...?

Originally Posted By: Henry
So on Jan 20 I could be embarrassed, but if it is as I have said, I fear that the parable of the 10 virgins will play itself out in a most undesirable way in the case Dedication and those who were too busy to really look at the facts before they ran down the clock.

When it was raining and they knew that Noah was right it was too late to prepare to get into the ark. Christ said as it was in the Days of Noah, don't you suppose that is what He meant?
You are claiming that probation closes if Obama remained in office after January 20.

Sorry that I was on a borrowed computer, is that better for you Henry?


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: APL] #181943
11/20/16 02:57 AM
11/20/16 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted By: APL
Originally Posted By: Henry
Interesting how my words are posted by APL
is it the miracle of cut and paste? Or...?

Originally Posted By: Henry
So on Jan 20 I could be embarrassed, but if it is as I have said, I fear that the parable of the 10 virgins will play itself out in a most undesirable way in the case Dedication and those who were too busy to really look at the facts before they ran down the clock.

When it was raining and they knew that Noah was right it was too late to prepare to get into the ark. Christ said as it was in the Days of Noah, don't you suppose that is what He meant?
You are claiming that probation closes if Obama remained in office after January 20.

Sorry that I was on a borrowed computer, is that better for you Henry?


I wondered how my words come back with your heading. It was more like how did that happen? Hope that your computer is not broken or something.

And NO--- I am saying that President Obama is:
1) America's last President
2) he will be in office when Christ Comes
3) he will be the one to implement the image beast
4) he will`implement the Mark of the beast


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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and do not necessarily represent those of Maritime 2nd Advent Believers OnLine,
as well as the Seventh-day Adventist Church
from the local church level to the General Conference level.

Maritime 2nd Advent Believers OnLine (formerly Maritime SDA OnLine) is also a self-supporting ministry
and is not part of, or affiliated with, or endorsed by
The General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists headquartered in Silver Spring, Maryland
or any of its subsidiaries.

"And He saith unto them, follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men." Matt. 4:19
MARITIME 2ND ADVENT BELIEVERS ONLINE (FORMERLY MARITIME SDA ONLINE) CONSISTING MAINLY OF BOTH MEMBERS & FRIENDS
OF THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH,
INVITES OTHER MEMBERS & FRIENDS OF THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD WHO WISHES TO JOIN US!
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