I agree with you on this point, but you would not agree with it as I would say it from my perspective about you



Are you saying that The 7 heads/popes that ruled before the papacy of pope Francis had a second former pope living while they ruled as solo popes from 1929 to 2013? If the 7 popes from 1929 to 2013 only ruled one pope living at a time and the eighth pope rules while his predecessor is alive is the tenure of the 8th pope not deviating from the pattern established in the previous 7?



I didn't tell God to stop the prophecy at Benedict and move to the earth-beast. I wasn't even consulted. But you cannot follow the prophecy correctly if you won't follow the prophecy.



That is a false argument. The fact is that 2 popes are currently alive at the same time after 2013. But between 1929 - 2013 there is not one instance of two popes being alive at the same time. I am talking about the facts... not your spin on them.

The evidence is that Pope Francis enjoys consulting with Pope Benedict. When the door of mercy was opened Francis walked through it first and Benedict followed him second. When John-Paul II was declared a saint, Francis officiated with the aide of Benedict. And when Francis sits on his throne in the cathedral, Benedict is often seated off to the right side facing Francis.



You know better...that is your opinion, modified to make your point. It is not what the Scripture says:

Daniel 8:20-22 "The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia. And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king."

A horn is a king.



These are the characteristics of the horns. The quote you provided makes that clear:







The evidence is that a horn is symbolic of a king and the earth beast in Revelation 13 only has 2 of them identified in the prophecy.



The ruler of the earth beast with the lamblike horns that does these things is Barack Obama when he turns away from his profession of protestantism and republicanism to speak like a dragon.
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Just enough truth mixed with error to keep people in darkness.

People will be arguing as to whether this or that man is the last president -- and trying to fix the prophecies on one man or another, instead of fixing their hope and faith on Christ, and fully dedicating their lives to Him.


Yes, the USA will link its power with spiritualism and papal power and institute papal laws and persecution bringing in a great time of trouble, not only for America but for the world -- where will your focus and strength to stand be?

Somehow I can envision that happening much faster under a Trump reign than under a restored Obama reign. But the issue isn't on "who is president" but on where we stand in our relationship with Christ.

I do not claim infallibility. If infallibility were the test, the Millerites failed that test in 1843 and 1844 when Christ did not come. And then it appears that to save face they changed the Sanctuary from earth to heaven. Of course, we know that is not the whole truth, but so much for infallibility as a test of prophetic understanding.

If we remembered how God led us in our past history and applied the lesson to how He is leading now, the fact that I correctly said that Pope Benedict would not be pope after the Spring of 2013 and that Brexit would occur and that Trump would be elected President (all from studying the scriptures and having made those correct understandings public even a year before they happened) should merit some consideration to my pronouncement as far back as 2008 that President Obama is the last President identified in Bible prophecy. He is going to be in office when Christ Returns according to my reading of Daniel and Revelation.

As I currently understand it, the sad thing is that when Obama fulfills Bible prophecy and he takes his third term, the cry will go forth that the Bridegroom is at the door and the foolish virgins won't have time to prepare to meet Him. They waited too long to study the prophecies, they let their time of probation run out and then they will wail, Lord Lord didn't we do this and that for you but He will not accept them. And those who the foolish virgins kept from making ready will blame the foolish ones for their loss...

I don't claim to have all the truth, but I tell what I know at the time I know it and I ask everyone to evaluate it thoroughly and honestly because God does not put things in Bible prophecy that are unimportant. I meet with a group every Sabbath in the Collegedale area and the leader allowed me to speak (just to be polite?), but he did not accept my view. He asked difficult questions. He studied the texts. He asked, is there anyone here that really believes what Henry is saying? A Conference literature evangelist took him aside and "straightened him out." This tossed him into despair; he had two friends telling him opposite things. Then as we studied the Bible again, the Holy Spirit settled the matter in his heart. He had that ah ha moment. "Why didn't you just use these texts and say..." --I thought that is what I had been doing all the time.

Not everyone will agree after studying the matter completely. Not everyone, who takes a Bible study becomes an Adventist. But we owe it to ourselves to lay aside preconceived notions and to look at the Scriptures that lead to the conclusion rather than jumping to a conclusion.

It is such an easy thing to look at the study with a prayerful spirit as it was to look at the bronze serpent in the wilderness.

Any guesses as to what "before overlooked" detail will suddenly come to light when Obama doesn't remain in office?

Why?

One before said the number of popes was at number 600 something. So you're going along, counting to 65x, the deadly wound comes, and you start the count over.

Why?

Where in the Bible does it say one should restart the pope count?

Rev 13 had 7 heads.
Rev 17 had 7 heads.

Why are you not counting the heads of popes before the deadly wound? Why are there more than 7? Why does the same papacy system need a restart of counting in Rev 17? Where in the Bible do you get the authority to restart counting?

I see now that what I have been saying is being confused with the errors of others and everything is being lumped together (truth and error) as though they are the same.

The prophecy in Revelation 13 divides the papal beast into two phases:



When Pius VI received the deadly wound, it ended the 1260 years from 538-1798.

The Pius head was wounded (Pius 6) and then the Pius head was healed (Pius XI). When Pius 6 received the wound, he lost his global secular kingdom and his position as head of all the churches and that condition prevailed from 1798 to 1929.

When Mussolini restored the kingdom the Pius XI in 1929 the phase of the restored papacy began. There were only 7 popes in this phase that match the prophecy: Pius XI & XII, John XXIII, Paul VI, John-Paul I & II, and Benedict XVI.

John-Paul II is a special pope in this prophecy because he literally received a deadly wound (almost died) it was healed, he lived exactly 42 full months after 9/11/01 (died 4?2/2005), President Reagan recognized his papacy as a political entity (as Mussolini had done), AND President Bush I recognized John-Paul II as "the world's moral leader" that is akin to being head of all the churches!

After the Pius head (6 & XI) received the wounding and the healing a specific head (pope) was wounded and healed among the 7 post 1929 popes and America Wondered after the beast.



All the world did not fulfill the condition of wondering after the beast when America was not in that number. America did follow it in the period from 1929 to 2013.

I see nothing in there answering the question. Let's presume you are correct that there are two phases.

Where in the Bible does it say you are to start renumbering the heads after 1929?

Skipping your reagan, etc. comments whihc I'ms sure will be quite interesting twist, let's stay with the popes.

Rev 17:
Scarlet beast.
7 heads
Carried the woman.
Which was named Babylon.


Are you saying the scarlet beast or at least his heads and the carried woman did not exist prior to 1929? The beast that was and is not all happened after 1929?

That is when the Pius head was healed

The scarlet beast in Rev 17 is the same beast from Rev 13 drenched in the blood of the saints.

An apostate woman is Babylon, BUT the beast is also Babylon since the beast is the papacy.

The papacy is not riding itself.

Apostate Protestantism is riding the papacy. The name of Apostate Protestantism's forehead is the mark of the beast (title=Babylon Authority=Mother of harlots territory=the earth)



Did Apostate Protestantism bond with the papacy before 1929 when the world began to wonder after the beast? The head on the beast that is not was John-Paul II (he was mortally wounded) and he is because he recovered and Satan will impersonate John-Paul II so that the world that does not know the truth about the dead will be deceived by him. Then Satan as John-Paul II will say he is going to heaven to send the Comforter and Satan will appear as Jesus.

It seems like I have been through this before don't you remember reading it?

It seems like I've asked this before but have not yet received an answer:

Where in the Bible does it say you are to start renumbering the heads after 1929?