If Trump should become President on 1/20/2017 Then Christ will come before April 1, 2017....But as I continue to study, I understand more of the prophecies and they point to Obama remaining in office until Christ Comes.......Daniel promises that the wise will understand.....the foolish virgins will wait until it is too late....

" Time has not been a test since 1844, and it will never again be a test. {EW 74.2}

"Some were led into the error of repeatedly fixing upon a definite time for the coming of Christ. The light which was now shining on the subject of the sanctuary would have shown them that no prophetic period extends to the second advent; that the exact time of this event is not foretold. But, turning from the light, they continued to set time after time for the Lord to come, and as often they were disappointed. {GC88 456.1}

"This is the testimony I have borne ever since the passing of the time in 1844: ‘Time after time will be set by different ones which will pass by; and the influence of this time-setting will be to destroy the faith of God's people.’ {LS 220)

This thread deals with "rejection of the Testimonies Foretold"
so much that is debated is "off topic".





We can add that no where is there a command to search scriptures to find the specific president in office when the image to the beast is set up in America.

We are to WATCH -- watch the events and know it is nigh.

TODAY watch and pray clinging to Christ, for in Christ is our refuge and strength, the ONLY One Who can cleanse, sustain and keep us in His grace.

“Though no man knoweth the day nor the hour of His coming, we are instructed and required to know when it is near. We are further taught that to disregard His warning, and refuse or neglect to know when His Advent is near, will be as fatal for us, as it was for those who lived in the days of Noah not to know when the flood was coming” (GC88 370.2).

“The Advent people were traveling to the city, which was at the farther end of the path. They had a bright light set up behind them at the beginning of the path, which an angel told me was the midnight cry. This light shone all along the path and gave light for their feet so that they might not stumble. If they kept their eyes fixed on Jesus, who was just before them, leading them to the city, they were safe. But soon some grew weary, and said the city was a great way off, and they expected to have entered it before. Then Jesus would encourage them by raising His glorious right arm, and from His arm came a light which waved over the Advent band, and they shouted, ‘Alleluia!’ Others rashly denied the light behind them and said that it was not God that had led them out so far. The light behind them went out, leaving their feet in perfect darkness, and they stumbled and lost sight of the mark and of Jesus, and fell off the path down into the dark and wicked world below. Soon we heard the voice of God like many waters, which gave us the day and hour of Jesus’ coming. The living saints, 144,000 in number, knew and understood the voice, while the wicked thought it was thunder and an earthquake. When God spoke the time, He poured upon us the Holy Ghost, and our faces began to light up and shine with the glory of God, as Moses’ did when he came down from Mount Sinai” (EW 14.1).

“The number 7 indicates completeness, and is symbolic of the fact that the messages extend to the end of time, while the symbols used reveal the condition of the church at different periods in the history of the world” (AA 585.3).

Therefore my people are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst. Isaiah 5:13

Dedication,

On this I agree with you completely. BUT when the endtime 70 weeks are studied they end on 11 March 2017 the eve of Purim, the day that God redeemed His people from the Persian death decree. And the study of Revelation 17-18 is very clear.

So though I have not looked for a day and an hour for the Lord to return, I have been blessed to know the season.

Your counsel from the Spirit of Prophecy is not balanced for you over look other counsel that is of equal importance.





Unless you repent, The sin that will condemn you and those who follow your teachings is the sin of the people who were bitten by the serpent in the wilderness. Moses raised a bronze serpent on a pole and they were told to look and live. Those who looked lived. Those who refused to look died.

At every step of the way, whenever I presented a ray of light and asked you to study it, you would every reason why I must be wrong but not look at the light in its setting.

The fact is that in Revelation 17-18 we are told exactly where we are in prophetic history.

The deadly wound of the papacy has been healed. The 5 popes were fallen-dead. The one that "was" was alive and he died soon to be impersonated by Satan. And the one that was to be for a short space ruled for a short space (Benedict XVI).



Babylonian tradition made the ruler on New Year's Day king until the 28th of March that followed. John-Paul II died 2 April 2005 and Benedict XVI completed John-Paul II's final year through 28 March 2006. On 29 March 2006 Benedict began his first year and he ruled until 28 February 2013--one month and one day short of 7 years.

But in spite of me telling you that Benedict would not rule after the Spring of 2013 he would not be pope in 2013 and then it happened, you would not accept prophecy correctly interpreted before the fact or correctly fulfilled after the fact as evidence to warrant a closer look.

And now that Daniel and Revelation so faithfully point to President Obama as the last American President identified in Bible prophecy whose term will either be continued until Christ Comes or according to Babylonian custom continue until 28 March 2017 with President Trump fulfilling those few months as Benedict fulfilled the end of Pope John-Paul II's final year, you will have nothing to do with such a clear cut interpretation.

If you have data to show some other date, I'd like to see it.

I asked first.

Please show where the data shows your date.

So from that perspective if Obama leaves office prior to 29 March 2017

I would guess March 20 or 21, I don't really know. But I realize the calendar dating had changed, so that might explain 605 BC. However, I was thrown off by your comment:
Guess that's 20 (or 21?) March 2017? Or 22!

When is the equinox (22?)
Does/did the calendar begin at it or based upon some moon phase?

On this I agree with you completely. BUT when the endtime 70 weeks are studied they end on 11 March 2017 the eve of Purim, the day that God redeemed His people from the Persian death decree. And the study of Revelation 17-18 is very clear.

So though I have not looked for a day and an hour for the Lord to return, I have been blessed to know the season.