No. The Spring equinox in ancient Babylon was around the 27th -28th and they had a religious festival that began at that day and ended
on the 29th as best as I can tell at this time. But April 1 was after New Year's Day. So for prophetic calculations 29 March is a fairly reliable date for New Year's Day in ancient Babylon.

Those who take the mistaken view that ALL PROPHETIC TIME stopped in 1844 would agree with your statement on this.

But since EGW used the term PROPHETIC TIME exclusively to refer to the day and hour of Christ appearing, she was saying that there were no prophecies after 1844 that specified the day and hour of Christ's Coming. But prophecies relating to time and endtime events continue until Christ comes. An inability to understand time prophecies after 1844 is not of God and it handicaps those who would be faithful.

The mistake dear sister is with you. The 70 weeks that occurred in the past are repeated as literal weeks twice in the endtime.


I agree that you have departed from the testimonies by not understanding them correctly and incorporating trash that has entered into the church since 1844 into your teachings to obscure them.


That is true but it is not the of the 70 weeks. For when the 2300 day/year prophecy ended in 1844 Revelation 10 confirmed that they ended when John proclaimed time shall be no longer...the 2300 years are up and the long time=a day = a year is no longer in the prophecies in Revelation. John also recorded Thou must prophecy again which is a command to the prophecy in the little book of Daniel to prophesy again or to be repeated. And when the times in revelation occur from Revelation chapter 10 to the end, they are literal time.


And I fear that you are too far to the preterits point of view. Those things in the past that were partial fulfillments you take as the final complete fulfillment and refuse the blessing from understanding the complete and final fulfillment when it is upon us.


If you had remembered and understood how God led His people in the past, you would not be troubled with that false argument. God is infallible, but people are not. In 1843 Adventists got it wrong. They changed the date of Christ's Advent to 1844 and got it wrong again. And then changed the event and could not prove that they got it right because the event was happening in Heaven.

When I got things wrong, I prayerfully went back to God and studied more. As many times as it took to get it right. Then when I got it right predicting that Benedict would not be pope after the Spring of 2013, you did not receive a blessing as the Adventists that grew in their understanding in 1844, because you only saw error and would not see truth when it was set before you. And to add to your sin, you cast a shadow over truth to keep others from seeing it.
Thse who fail to see that Obama is the Antichrist that heads the beast with lamblike horns will be deceived by him.

God does not give Present Truth for it to be neglected and ignored. To do that is to do it at your own peril as Christ made clear in the parable of the 10 virgins.

I can only tell you what I understand from Bible study. I NEVER SET A DATE for Christ's coming. BUT I have shown the dates that I encounter in Bible study and point to Jesus and DECLARE THAT WE ARE IN THE FINAL SEALING TIME AND THAT IT WILL BE A SHORT TIME!

The high priest was confident that Jesus was not the Messiah. so confident that Christ's crucifixion did not trouble him. The priest missed the first Advent and many will sleep until it is to late as those in Noah's Day. In spite of the fact that we have the Testimonies because they are misread, misinterpreted, and picked and chosen like ingredients of a salad.

Are we talking about the Spring equinox of this year or are we talking about the 27, 28, 29th of March of this year?

Answer this, if nothing else: When is the spring equinox of 2017?


I agree with you that ALL prophetic time did not stop in 1844 as one can readily read the context she said it in. But I don't understand why you are relating that to what I just said.

Something seemed to have changed between 11/19/16 and 11/28/16.

Would you call this "backpedaling"? If not, what could possibly be called backpedaling in regard to your prediction here?

Yes, you claim you talked to MM about this. How long ago was that? Did you forget that when you make an absolute statement such as:
President Obama is: 1) America's last President


(By the way, if saying, "Then Christ will come before April 1, 2017" is not date setting, I'm not sure what would be)

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I have incorporated NOTHING. The Testimonies are clear in what they say, and they do not incorporate what you are teaching. The things I see entering the church since 1844 is a lot of changing the prophetic picture and undermining the firm foundation the prophetic message is built upon.

I see people taking the timelines and placing them where ever they fancy to place them, (others as well, not just you) they are lifted out of the context they hold in scripture and in SOP, and in the prophetic unveiling of earth's history from the time of the prophets to the end.
Indeed a lot of "trash" has entered the church till the true prophetic message is so confused with multiple interpretations that anything goes and nothing is certain.

EGW even says so much and links it to the re-interpretation of the time lines where people repeatedly set new times and seasons for Christ to come -- which results in failure after failure till people throw prophecy out the window as nothing but a sandbox in which to build sand castles that keep getting knocked down. It's the craftiest way to get people to turn against the true prophetic road map.
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Your argument that the misunderstanding of the EVENT that was to take place at the end of the 2300 days, now gives license to repeated re-interpretations that fail, only serves to completely destroy people's hold on 1844 as well.

You see -- 1844 was NOT a mistake, the calculations were correct, the time of the end began, Christ began His last phase of His heavenly ministry in preparation to the second coming. The three angel's messages began to sound. The breach in the ten commandments was being repaired. Their mistake was the event, as they thought the "sanctuary" was this earth, when in fact the sanctuary to be cleansed according to Hebrews is in heaven. This cleansing message is absolutely crucial to us being able to stand in the last days.

If we lose the sanctuary doctrine, due to all this pulling the foundational beams out from under it, then indeed we will be deceived in the last days.

The dates for the last day events are unknown, and will not be known till Christ announces it from the sky (and that will be after probation has closed, and God's people will already be delivered from the death decree) -- and then it will be known by ALL, not just one or two, of Christ's people.

And remember -- the last great deception is not over who is president, but it concerns spiritual things.

That's the greatest problem with all this speculation -- while false spiritual things are sweeping into the church and real "trash" is shrouding the spiritual truths of salvation, shrouding the truths of sanctification and the seal of God, keeping those who profess to know Christ from leading people to a full commitment to God, the enemy seduces them into thinking they are in "present truth for this time" by getting them speculating over things God never revealed, coming up with some sensational pronouncement, be it some new reinterpretation of prophecy, or some spiritual ecstasies, and has them pushing people around trying get them to follow them as the spiritual guide using these sensational speculations as bait -- instead of turning to God with trust and commitment that is not dependent upon any earthly man, and will stay true no matter which president and pope brings in the final crises.

Amen, Sister!

Amen means so let it be.

Sister U has so twisted the testimonies and what I said that it will never be established as she presents it.

From GC 325.2 to 328.2 clearly describe the fulfillment of the 70 weeks of Daniel 9. What dedication has stated is already come to pass.

Isn't that right?

From GC 325.2 to 328.2 it clearly describe the fulfillment of the 70 weeks of Daniel 9. They have already been fulfilled.
Isn't that right?

Yes.
The 70 weeks/490 years, were the first part of the 2300day years.

The 70 weeks pointed to Christ's first coming.
The 2300 years pointed to the beginning of the judgment which precedes Christ's second coming.




The messages in Daniel point to the judgment, which the three angels' messages declare has begun.

"The prophecies present a succession of events leading down to the opening of the judgment. This is especially true of the book of Daniel. But that part of his prophecy which related to the last days, Daniel was bidden to close up and seal "to the time of the end." Not till we reach this time could a message concerning the judgment be proclaimed, based on the fulfillment of these prophecies. {GC 355.3} "

The 70 weeks are part of this succession of events leading down to the opening of the judgment -- they are part of the 2300 day/years that point to 1844 and the opening of that judgment.





The [Daniel 9] inserted above is not in DA 234.

Daniel 9 prophesied Christ's first advent, there is nothing in the passage to suggest the SAME prophecy also applies to the second coming.
There is much in Daniel that DOES apply to the time of end. Thus the original statement is correct, but the implication that the 70 weeks apply to both events is NOT correct.



This passage does not say that the prophecy (as in 70 weeks) has two different applications, it is saying some prophecies in Daniel are repeated in Revelation.




Of course -- but knowing it is near is not the same thing as saying Obama will be president and Christ will come before April 2017 --



That is very true -- and obviously people are still turning from the light and trying to set time for the Lord to come.



Yes, past HISTORY will be repeated -- but you are trying to give prophecies multiple interpretations.
Those are two very different things.

Past HISTORY repeated means things like the persecuting intolerance of the Catholic church will be repeated. Not that the time periods will be repeated.
We have prophecies that show history repeating.




And there is plenty of false interpretations of prophecy floating around today. That is why God sent us a prophet for the last days. And that is why her clear outline is being rejected, and her words taken out of context, in order to give these false interpretations a more convincing tone.

The rejection of the Testimonies was foretold.