Thank you for your response.

How do we know that earth and sea are both symbolic in Daniel 7?

Daniel 7 and Revelation 13 both cover the same material.

They both contain the symbolic sea, lion, bear, leopard, an indescribable beast that is identified by its horns, and the earth. All the symbols in Revelation 13 are linked to Daniel 7. EXCEPT the earth. In Daniel 7 it is said to be LITERAL but in Revelation 13 it is said to be symbolic.

Note that EGW moves from the sea beast in Daniel 7 to the earth beast in Revelation 13. That is not an accident.



The vision in Daniel 7 that uses sea beasts to initially symbolize kingdoms foreshadows the earth kings in the endtime that symbolize American Presidents.

U, The error that you are dogmatically clinging to is to make earth literal in Daniel 7, which makes the symbolic sea to be the literal earth. That exegesis is incorrect.





But because God sealed the book of Daniel until the endtime, the translators ignored 7:17 and translated 7:24 not as it relates to kings from the earth as in Heaven's interpretation, but as kingdoms as they understood the vision before consulting the interpretation.



In light of Heaven's direct interpretation (7:17) that the beasts are KINGS FROM THE EARTH how would 7:23 read if the translators had followed the interpretation instead of reverting to their historical understanding of the vision?






The evidence:
1) Spirit of prophecy goes directly from sea symbol in Daniel 7 to earth symbol in Revelation 13 (SYMBOL TO SYMBOL)
2)Daniel 7 and Revelation 13 cover the same material using the same symbols, but of all the symbols that occur in both chapters only one symbol is changed to literal in D7 to make it out of harmony with R13
3) The book of Daniel was sealed until the endtime
4) The translators could have translated kingdom as kingly throne or reign in 7:23 BUT they chose to go with tradition rather than context BECAUSE it was sealed
5) knowledge has increased
6) There is a class that refuses to follow light as it progresses

How did God lead His people in 1843 and 1844? With time prophecy!

The rejection of the existence of time prophecies after 1844 is forgetting how God has led us in our past history. Forgetting that should cause us to fear for our future!

But the Spirit of Prophecy is taken from its context to make it a lie.

The warning against setting times for Christ's coming is twisted into a warning against all time prophecies.

All time prophecies is different than prophetic time that gives the definite time of Christ's Advent.

U, be careful that you do not fall into the trap that will get the Laodiceans who do not heed Christ's words.

Accepting the error about no time prophecy after 1844 and between Christ's Advent will be the damnation of many who cast their shadow between light from Heaven and seekers for truth. The Laodiceans turn honest souls from the path of truth by their unbelief.

Then like the Evangelicals, the rejectors of the sure word of God may comfort themselves and others by focusing on Jesus.

There are seven churches identified in Revelation. Apostate Christian churches uplift Jesus in name only as it is written:

There will always be false and fanatical movements made by persons in the church who claim to be led of God—those who will run before they are sent, and will give day and date for the occurrence of unfulfilled prophecy. The enemy is pleased to have them do this, for their successive failure and leading into false lines cause confusion and unbelief. There is enough revealed and substantiated by the Word of God to show the lines upon which they can work. The labor performed in harmony with the mind of Christ will produce most healthful impressions and a genuine experience. {Lt28-1897}

Many who have called themselves Adventists have been time setters. Time after time has been set for Christ to come, but repeated failures have been the result. The definite time of our Lord's coming is declared to be beyond the ken of mortals. Even the angels who minister unto those who shall be heirs of salvation know not the day nor the hour. "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but My Father only." Because the times repeatedly set have passed, the world is in a more decided state of unbelief than before in regard to the near advent of Christ. They look upon the failures of the time setters with disgust; and because men have been so deceived, they turn from the truth substantiated by the word of God that the end of all things is at hand. {4T 307.1}

The world placed all time proclamation on the same level and called it a delusion, fanaticism, and heresy. Ever since 1844 I have borne my testimony that we were now in a period of time in which we are to take heed to ourselves lest our hearts be overcharged with surfeiting and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon us unawares. Our position has been one of waiting and watching, with no time proclamation to intervene between the close of the prophetic periods in 1844 and the time of our Lord’s coming. We do not know the day nor the hour, or when the definite time is, and yet the prophetic reckoning shows us that Christ is at the door. {Lt38-1888}

This time, which the Angel declares with a solemn oath, is not the end of this world’s history, neither of probationary time, but of prophetic time, which should precede the advent of our Lord. That is, the people will not have another message upon definite time. After this period of time, reaching from 1842 to 1844, there can be no definite tracing of the prophetic time. The longest reckoning reaches to the autumn of 1844. {Ms59-1900}

Time setting leads to unbelief.

You have the quotes, but you divorce them from their context. Or you give quotes that cannot be verified in their context.



The first 2 sentences of this quote from Lt28 appear in the EGW CD. But the last portion cannot be verified on my EGW CD

The following quote in context is saying BECAUSE OF THE DEFINITE TIMES REPEATEDLY SET HAVE PAST. I have not set a DEFINITE TIME FOR THE LORD TO COME so this quote is being misapplied if yo are trying to apply it to my work




As I pointed out earlier there is a difference in the Spirit of prophecy between prophetic time that is the definite time of Christ's Advent and ALL PROPHETIC TIME which is causing confusion in the world. The superficial student will go with the world's confusion and misread and misapply the SoP's counsel!




Time setting OF THE DAY AND HOUR OF CHRIST'S COMING leads to unbelief. Forgetting how God has led us in our past history should cause us to fear for the future!

Henry, Henry! - - you think that what I posted cannot be verified? By you maybe, but they are readily available from the online at White Estate. And perhaps you have not been paying attention to what has been published in the last year; all the EGW Letters and Manuscripts are available. And not only available online, but you can download them and use them with Folio Views which is the program that runs the EGW CD-ROM. Read them in context and they speak directly to what you have been doing. What will you do when April 1, 2017 comes around? Will you then accuse everyone that does not see the evidence as you do of being a superficial student misreading and misapplying the SoP? Will you change you dates?

That surprises me. I spoke to the EGW Estates some time ago while doing research and was told that everything on my CD was all that would be available and that they had no more material that would be released. Now you say that they have released more.

They have not kept is a secret! The CD contains all the PUBLISHED material, that is true. But you apparently have been out of the loop for a number of years with respect the the unpublished material, I won't go into the details that went on include law suits, etc. It was announced several years ago that the material would be made available. I will even help you out! Here is a link to download all the letters and manuscripts which you can use with your EGW CD-ROM program. No, I do not do program support but it is easy to use.

http://ellenwhite.org/content/letters-and-manuscripts-collection

If you have a smart phone or a Windows 10 PC or a Mac computer, you can download all the published and unpublished material for FREE. Though I like the older CD-ROM program myself as it is easier to use IMHO.

Back to the topic that you fear of the shortness of time in your interpretation, I quote EGW:

The shortness of time is frequently urged as an incentive for seeking righteousness and making Christ our friend. This should not be the great motive with us; for it savours of selfishness. Is it necessary that the terrors of the day of God should be held before us, that we may be compelled to right action through fear? It ought not to be so. Jesus is attractive. He is full of love, mercy, and compassion. He proposes to be our friend, to walk with us through all the rough pathways of life. {BEcho, June 25, 1894 par. 7}

Life eternal does not come from knowing Obama will or will not be president. It comes from knowing God, as He is. Something I never see you talk about. It is always about you an your interpretations and how rejecting your interpretation will lead to destruction, like the story of the 10 virgins. Henry Hills interpretation is not the last message to be given to the world. The last message of mercy is presented in COL page 415.

But what about that which you can verify, which was APL's emphasis? What about it's context before going on to the other?


Here's something that IS on the CD:

There are little companies continually arising who believe that God is only with the very few, the very scattered, and their influence is to tear down and scatter that which God's servants build up. There are restless minds who want to be seeing and believing something new continually, who arise, some in one place and some in another, all doing a special work for the enemy, yet claim to have the truth. They stand separate from the people whom God is leading out and prospering, and through whom he is to do his great work. They are continually expressing their fears that the body of Sabbath-keepers are becoming like the world; but there are scarcely two of these whose views are in harmony. They are scattered and confused, and yet deceive themselves so much as to think that God is especially with them. Some of these profess to have the gifts among them; but the influence and teachings of these gifts are to hold in doubt those upon whom God has laid the special burden of his work, and to lead off a class from the body. The people who are putting forth every effort in accordance with God's word to be one, who are established in the message of the third angel, they look upon with suspicion, for the reason that they are extending their labor, and are gathering souls into the truth. They look upon them as being worldly, because they have influence in the world, and their acts testify that they expect God to do a special and great work yet upon the earth, to bring out a people, and fit them for Christ's appearing. This class do not know what they really believe. They are ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. {4bSG 158.2}

You can continue reading it on the CD.

The www.whiteestate.org website has more writings available than what you originally bought on your CD. I know, that website has more writings than my 2008 comprehensive CD as well.

"Rejection of the Testimonies" is a trivial matter. Consider what Paul says in 1 Timothy 4, "Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith:

• giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
• speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron --- [A] forbidding to marry, and [B] commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth."

In other words, there will come a time when a people will rise up adding celibacy and 'a health message' to the gospel of salvation, overturning Romans 14 in their misguided zeal; guided as it were by a false prophet and leadership that secretly practice the very things they forbid.

And the people will love to have it so.

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