How does the quote disagree? Does Leviticus 23 agree with Deuteronomy 16? What does the idiom "seven Sabbaths COMPLETE" mean? Does it mean that it starts on the first day of the week? If so, where does it say that?

Luke 18:12 'I fastG3522 twiceG1364 a week;G4521 I payG586a tithesG586a of allG3956 that I get.'G2932

The word translated "week" is G4521 - Sabbaton

Matthew 28:1 NowG1161 afterG3796 the Sabbath,G4521 as it began to dawnG2020 towardG1519 the firstG1520 day of the week,G4521 MaryG3137 MagdaleneG3094 and the otherG243 MaryG3137 cameG2064 to lookG2334 at the grave.G5028

This verse has G4521 translated both Sabbath and week. So yes, in the NT, sabbath can been week or the 7th-day, you need the context to understand. Here are a few more

Mark 16:2 VeryG3029 earlyG4404 on the firstG1520 day of the week,G4521 they *cameG2064 to the tombG3418 when the sunG2246 had risen.G393

Luke 24:1 But on the firstG1520 day of the week,G4521 at earlyG3722 dawn,G3722 they cameG2064 to the tombG3418 bringingG5342 the spicesG759 whichG3739 they had prepared.G2090

John 20:1 NowG1161 on the firstG1520 day of the weekG4521 MaryG3137 MagdaleneG3094 *cameG2064 earlyG4404 to the tomb,G3419 while it *was stillG2089 dark,G4653 and *sawG991 the stoneG3037 already takenG142 awayG142 from the tomb.G3419

John 20:19 SoG3767 when it was eveningG3798 on that day,G2250 the firstG1520 day of the week,G4521 and when the doorsG2374 were shutG2808 whereG3699 the disciplesG3101 were, for fearG5401 of the Jews,G2453 JesusG2424 cameG2064 and stoodG2476 in their midstG3319 and *saidG3004 to them, "PeaceG1515 be with you."

Acts 20:7 On the firstG1520 day of the week,G4521 when we were gatheredG4863 togetherG4863 to breakG2806 bread,G740 PaulG3972 began talkingG1256 to them, intendingG3195 to leaveG1826 the nextG1887 day,G1887 and he prolongedG3905 his messageG3056 untilG3360 midnight.G3317

1 Corinthians 16:2 On the firstG1520 day of everyG2596 weekG4521 eachG1538 oneG1538 of you is to putG5087 asideG3844 G1438 and save,G2343 as he may prosper,G2137 soG2443 that noG3361 collectionsG3048 be madeG1096 whenG3752 I come.G2064

- Transliteration: Sabbaton

- Phonetic: sab'-bat-on

- Definition:

1. the seventh day of each week which is a sacred rest on which the whole world is required to abstain from all secular work
- a. the institution of the sabbath, the law for keeping holy every seventh day of the week
- b. a single sabbath, sabbath day
2. seven days, a week

- Origin: of hebrew origin H7676

- TDNT entry: 07:02,0

- Part(s) of speech: Noun Neuter

- Strong's: Of hebrew origin [H7676]; the Sabbath (that is Shabbath) or day of weekly repose from secular avocations (also the observance or institution itself); by extension a se'nnight that is the interval between two Sabbaths; likewise the plural in all the above applications: - sabbath (day) week.

Dedication, I can save you the trouble of reviewing Edersheim on this. He follows the modern rabbinical reckoning, the 19 year cycle and we agree that's incorrect.

There is ancient authority that before their dispersion the Jews followed an eight year cycle rather than a 19 year and that they maintained an accurate seasonal alignment by occasionally reducing one month by a day. But I'll wait to read your material before saying more.

Re: week and Sabbath, I agree APL. Good work.

As normal kland, I obviously misunderstood you again.

But, as far as any possible change in any calendar, I was asking you a question. And as normal, you answer questions with questions.

I would like to see you answer to your own question.

Yes, that's one I had in mind.

The new moon after the equinox could vary up to a month. If the sheaf (And yes, it doesn't explicitly say "Barley"), is to be waved, then what do they do when it's just not there? Or what do they do when the grain was almost ripe a month ago, can they not harvest their grain till a month later? That instruction specifically revolves around offering a wave sheath. It is part of the feast ceremony. Without the sheaf, it would be.

Then there's the inductive way of when the plagues of Egypt hit and Ex 9:31 And the flax and the barley was smitten: for the barley was in the ear, and the flax was bolled., followed by the this being the beginning of months for you. Not so strong, but the flax and barley was in the ear, and when coupled with the wording of the actual statute given with presenting a sheaf for the wave offering, there seems pretty strong evidence.

I'm anxious to hear support for the equinox from the Bible. No one has been able to do that. Maybe you can show that it's the spring equinox which starts the year.

Elle, have you considered how the Israelites in the wilderness could determine the equinox? You've only changed the problem, not eliminated it. If you can show me how to determine the equinox within a day, in the wilderness, in areas where they have not been before, I would be most interested.

You said a prophecy ending time is related to determining the beginning of the year. I merely asked what prophecy you are talking about. So I cannot answer your question because I know of no such prophecy nor how the beginning of the year relates to the end times. You'll have to expound upon that.

As far as whatever prophecy you had in mind relating to the equinox determining its ending point, I asked how can that be when different parts of the world would be different. Should we look to Old Jerusalem?

Blessings dedication. I have noticed that these ceremonial laws were symbolic and even prophetic in nature. Such as we are living in the genuine "Day of Atonement" at this time.

I have also noticed a lot of attempts to demonstrate the prophetic significance of many of these ceremonial practices that don't line up well, at least as they are explained.

Do you have any real handle on where this prophetic application of the ceremonial law stops? Or are we waiting for more light from God?

I may have to backtrack on my concession regarding the timing or first day of the Feast of Weeks/Firstfruits. Today I was reminded that the reason I originally concluded that the counting to Pentecost appears to always start on a Sunday is that Christ was resurrected on Sunday and presented Himself to the Father in fulfillment of the Feast of Firstfruits. That Pentecost occurred on the first day of the week is another evidence. So the problem with the modern rabbinical rule of making Firstfruits the second day of Unleavened Bread which can be any day of the week is this: That rule doesn't work for the crucifixion. At the crucifixion, the Passover was Thursday evening, the first day of Unleavened Bread was Friday so under the modern rabbinical reckoning the Feast of First Fruits would be the second day of Unleavened Bread, the Sabbath. But at the crucifixion Christ rose on the third day of Unleavened Bread as the First Fruits of them that slept. I Cor 15:20.

So my question is can we reconcile the "second day of Unleavened Bread" rule with the crucifixion? Again, at the crucifixion the second day of Unleavened Bread was the Sabbath. Can we make a scriptural case that at the crucifixion the Firstfruits was fulfilled on the seventh day, the Sabbath? That seems to be a difficult position to maintain. Can the dead Christ be the Firstfruit offering? Don't the inspired sources all agree that Christ is the living sacrifice? and that like Him we are to present ourselves as living sacrifices. But if we say that at the crucifixion the Firstfruits fell on the second day of Unleavened Bread, the Sabbath, then we would have to also hold that Pentecost occurred on the Sabbath wouldn't we?