God's Word has given warning of the impending danger; let this be unheeded, and the Protestant world will learn what the purposes of Rome really are, only when it is too late to escape the snare. She is silently growing into power. Her doctrines are exerting their influence in legislative halls, in the churches, and in the hearts of men. She is piling up her lofty and massive structures, in the secret recesses of which her former persecutions will be repeated. Stealthily and unsuspectedly she is strengthening her forces to further her own ends when the time shall come for her to strike. All that she desires is vantage-ground, and this is already being given her. We shall soon see and shall feel what the purpose of the Roman element is. Whoever shall believe and obey the Word of God will thereby incur reproach and persecution. {GC88 581.1}

The world is filled with storm and war and variance. Yet under one head--the papal power--the people will unite to oppose God in the person of His witnesses. This union is cemented by the great apostate.--7T 182 (1902).

The historical facts:







At that time [1798] the papacy was forced to desist by the French army John beheld a new power coming up.

At the time the French removed Pope Pius VI from being head of all the churches and state [1798]

AT THE TIME ... March 1801 Jefferson sent Robert R. Livingston to France to attempt to buy New Orleans. January 1803 James Monroe joined Livingston and try to facilitate the purchase from France.
April 1803 Monroe agreed to purchase the Louisiana Territory.

AT THE TIME the French forced the papacy to desist, the Louisiana Territory (the sparely populated prophetic earth that doubled the size of the USA in 1803) was sold to the United States by France. Truman (the only American President thus far to call fire down from heaven - on Japan in WWII - came from Missouri which is in the heart of the Louisiana Territory)

At that time the papacy was forced to desist by the French army John beheld a new power coming up when the USA doubled it size because of the Louisiana Purchase from FRANCE.

His Child, I think I've asked this question before and I don't think I received an answer; Have you ever noticed how often you have been wrong in your interpretations?

Have you ever notices how often I've been right?

Be careful in your Bible study not to jump to unwarranted conclusions based on what you may think should be true. The book of Revelation takes considerable care to understand properly. It was written by John in his older years, following several failed attempts by the Jews to end his life, while he was in exile on the Isle of Patmos. God had not yet seen fit to allow his work to end, and had preserved his life. The vision John saw and expressed in human language employs many symbols and representations which were not intended to have a literal meaning and must be studiously examined and understood within their context.

I disagree with many who claim Daniel and Revelation are the two "prophetic books" of the Bible: all of the books are prophetic. But they do have a more cryptic presentation of the apocalyptic prophecies, and Jesus Himself states, as if to indicate the need of diligence to understand them, that "he that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches." He says this exactly seven times, all in the beginning portion of the book, indicating the importance of the message.

Now, allow me to share my perspective of what "earth" means in Revelation, one which no one here has yet clearly presented.

All 19 occurrences of the word "earth" in Revelation come from the same Greek word: gē, meaning simply earth, land, ground, territory, world, etc. But in Revelation, which parallels Genesis in many respects, the "earth" or "dry land" stands in contradistinction to the "sea" or "waters." The latter, of course, represent people. A beast rising from the waters would naturally represent a nation coming up from a population of people. We know that nations do not arise from the ocean, so the symbolism here should be simple enough to follow.

If waters represent populations and people, dry land, or "earth," represents an unpopulated region. America was once in such a condition. Few people lived here when the first settlers arrived, and those that were here did not have a developed civilization; unlike some of the native tribes of Central and South America. This "earth" swallows the "flood" of immigrants from Europe in fulfillment of the prophecy.

The texts you quote support this symbolic usage. When Satan was cast to "the earth," it was still an unpopulated place. The beast that comes up out of the earth could hardly find a better fit than America, which became a nation even before it had populated its territory. No other kingdom of Biblical note parallels this, for all other kingdoms in prophecy arose where people had lived for generations, having already-developed cities and civilization.

In some usages, where earth and sea are not specifically held in contrast to each other, the term "earth" may refer more generally to the world, including all of the people living upon it, for it is the word "waters" which we find in Revelation 17:15 defined as peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues.

The USA was NOT founded on unoccupied land.

Again, you're foolishly repeating the nonsense that Ellen White wrote in the Great Controversy.

The USA was NOT founded on unoccupied land.

• Indian removal was a policy of the United States government in the 19th century whereby Native Americans were forcibly removed from their ancestral homelands in the eastern United States to lands west of the Mississippi River, thereafter known as Indian Territory.
  
  In a matter that remains one of debate by scholars, description of the policy — which clearly contributed to devastation in numbers, freedom and prosperity for those displaced — is sometimes elevated to being one of long-term genocide of Native Americans, in any case, a consequence of actions first by European settlers to North America in the colonial period, then by the United States government and its citizens until the mid-20th century.
  
  The policy traced its direct origins to the administration of James Monroe, though it addressed conflicts between European Americans and Native Americans that had been occurring since the 17th century, and were escalating into the early 19th century as white settlers were continually pushing westward.
  
  The Indian Removal Act was the key law that forced the removal of the Indians, and was signed into law by President Andrew Jackson on May 28, 1830.

Source: Wikipedia

Keep studying!

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While it is difficult to determine exactly how many Natives lived in North America before Columbus,[6] estimates range from a low of 2.1 million[7] to 7 million[8] people to a high of 18 million[9]

References

[6] "Microchronology and Demographic Evidence Relating to the Size of Pre-Columbian North American Indian Populations". Science 16 June 1995: Vol. 268. no. 5217, pp. 1601–04 doi:10.1126/science.268.5217.1601.

[7] Thornton, Russell (1990). American Indian holocaust and survival: a population history since 1492. University of Oklahoma Press. pp. 26–32. ISBN 0-8061-2220-X.

[8]Ubelaker, Douglas H. (1976-11-01). "Prehistoric New World population size: Historical review and current appraisal of North American estimates". American Journal of Physical Anthropology. 45(3): 661–65. doi:10.1002/ajpa.1330450332. ISSN 1096-8644.

[9] Dobyns, Henry (1983). Their Number Become Thinned: Native American Dynamics in Eastern North America. Knoxville: University of Tennessee Press.

His Child... Have you ever noticed how often you have been wrong in your interpretations?

Alchemy,

Have you ever noticed how often I've been right?

...
John 7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

Christ calls men to unity, to bind themselves together in the bands of Christian fellowship. Those who have named the name of Christ he calls to cease their criticism, and bind up with one another and with God. If God's people will work intelligently and harmoniously, he will work with them and through them. But if they spend time and energy in a strife for the supremacy, God will leave them in their weakness; for he will not work with unconsecrated elements. The word of God demands that we be one with Christ, as he is one with the Father, that, Christ says, "ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven." {RH, June 5, 1900 par. 5}

There are thousands that have been addicted to complaining; they are chronic grumblers. But all such will never enter heaven. How can you be cured? Christ tells you: "A new heart will I give you." Do they profess to believe the truth? I shall know it when there is a change in that unruly member, the tongue. "A new heart will I give thee." We shall find in the place of a stirring up by the leaven of disaffection, we shall find there are words that cement; there are words that bind together. They will not see something in everyone around them to find fault with but themselves, and expatiate upon other's evil. But they are beginning to look and say, Am I right? Have I that love, that faith that works by love and purifies the heart for the second, the latter, rain, the descent of the Holy Spirit of God? {1SAT 202.2}

The Present Truth is not for everyone.

Of course --
In 1798 the deadly wound was inflicted upon the papacy.
The very nation (Franks) that gave the papacy it's military and political backing way back in 508 AD, to enforce the Roman Catholic religion upon the tribal nations of Europe, then in 1798 removed that power from the papacy.
And yes, new laws were made by Napoleon, that removed the Papacy as the head of all the churches. True-- at that time the Papacy, robbed of its strength, was forced to desist from persecution.

That is part of the prophecy.

And yes, as the prophecy in Rev. 13 points out, a new nation was rising on another continent --on the American continent at this time that would promote religious freedom --
God granted a time and place of freedom and knowledge for the truth of the three angels messages to be established and proclaimed around the world.


But the rest of what you, HC, wrote, I can't agree with.

Just because France and England had both colonized much of eastern America, not just in what is now the USA, that does not mean they transferred the papal power over here.

In fact it is just the opposite.
The papal power (that whole beast) could NOT be part of the American government.

Territories held by the French were strongly Roman Catholic strongholds. You might not realize that, since you are not Canadian. But even in Canada we can be thankful the English conquered the French!

However, French Canadian RC resisted assimilation by the English. They insisted on the supremacy of the Church over State. Religious liberty was meant only for Catholics and not for Protestant heretics -- that was right here on this continent especially in Quebec.
Even though other provinces enjoyed freedoms, the French maintained a strangle hold on Quebec culture -- Until the "Quiet Revolution" of the 1960's Quebec was a model of conservative Roman Catholicism. The church held unchallenged sway over French Canadian society.


The English were Protestant, the French Catholic.
It was in God's plan that the English, not the French gained control of the "new world" -- and thus the French too, must give up their claim to any territories in the USA.

The Louisiana Purchase -- that was the French giving up their claim in America. They were OUT, the USA would not be subject to any European nation.

The USA threw off all subjection to European nations and thus grew as an independent nation.
Again showing that they were NOT part of the European beast --
It is not correct by any means to see USA history in the Papal beast,
They rose as an independent nation --
A nation that warrants the symbol of an "empire" -- a unique symbolic "beast" (symbolizing a powerful political nation)of it's own.

In it's beginning hundred or more years, the USA was quite anti-Catholic.
Back then they UNDERSTOOD what it meant to allow the papacy to have political power, and they wanted none of it.

TRUMAN
Ordered the dropping of an atomic bomb -- he did not call fire down from heaven in the sight of the first beast in order to deceive the whole world and cause them to worship the first beast.

Besides, Truman was only a leader WITHIN the 2nd beast nation, (he was NOT part of the first beast, he was a leader within the second beast of Rev. 13) he does not warrant any "new power" symbol.

The "fire from heaven" is a reverse action to Elijah the prophet calling fire down from heaven to show that "the Lord Jehovah, He is God. When in America, fire is called down from heaven it will be done for the papacy, to call the people in America and in the world to worship as the papacy directs.

It has nothing to do with "dropping bombs".


THE WOUND WILL BE HEALED

The wound was inflicted when the papacy lost it's "army" and political ability to control the nations.
It's army was the Frankish Empire during the 1290 years.
From Clovis -- to Napoleon.

It's wound will be fully healed when another world power, America this time, submits it's power to enforce papal honor and religious leadership upon the world.

1. Harry S Truman
Pius XII 1956

This meeting was after Truman left office but it has been documented that ... “Harry Truman was put in office by the Jesuits...” http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/blackpope.htm

The presidents and the popes that they had audiences with and when

2. Dwight D. Eisenhower
John XXIII December 6, 1959

3. John F. Kennedy
Paul VI July 2, 1963

4. Lyndon B. Johnson
Paul VI October 4, 1965
Paul VI December 23, 1967

5. Richard M. Nixon
Paul VI March 2, 1969
Paul VI September 28, 1970

6. Gerald R. Ford
Paul VI June 3, 1975

7. Jimmy Carter
(Paul VI) (none)
(John-Paul I) (none)
John-Paul II October 6, 1979
John-Paul II June 21, 1980

8. Ronald Reagan
John-Paul II June 7, 1982
John-Paul II May 2, 1984
John-Paul II June 6, 1987
John-Paul II September 10,1987

9. George H. W. Bush
John-Paul II May 27, 1989
John-Paul II November 8, 1991 10

10. William J. Clinton
John-Paul II August 12, 1993
John-Paul II June 2, 1994
John-Paul II October 4, 1995.

In the last days…will take place the final fulfillment of the Revelator’s prophecy. [Revelation 13:4-18, quoted.]

Let us be guarded. Let us refuse to allow the criticisms of anyone to imprint objections on our minds. Let criticizers live by their trade of criticism. They cannot speak in favor of the very best of blessings without attaching a criticism to cast a shadow of reproach. Let us educate ourselves to praise that which is good when others criticize. Murmurers will always pick flaws, but let us not be saddened by the accusing element. Let us not consider it a virtue to make and suggest difficulties which one mind and another will bring in to harass and perplex.--Letter 87, 1900. {3SM 120.1}