I mean, make that the "crescent" after the spring equinox...

Well, it's "spring" now. Maybe you could start by explaining just why we need "a better picture" of where we stand "prophetically?" And what are you intending to say the "dream" you had in the OP means?

Let's see --
According to His Child, Trump will get into a war with Iran, which somehow gets Obama back in as president before Trump is recognized as a president. (you wrote that in a letter to Pr. Wilson which you posted 11/09/16 07:21 AM)
A few posts later you wrote: "Trump won, Obama will stay on, and the war with Iran will come in Obama's Presidency. (11/10/16 03:38 AM )

Later you wrote:
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The problem is --
you keep switching what you say.


So --
Then you explained:
"Babylonian tradition made the ruler on New Year's Day king until the 28th of March that followed. John-Paul II died 2 April 2005 and Benedict XVI completed John-Paul II's final year through 28 March 2006. On 29 March 2006 Benedict began his first year"

Following that explanation of a Babylonian custom with a Babylonian New Year we are to understand:

Trump was inaugurated January 20, 2017. By Babylonian calendar and tradition he becomes "king" March 28, 2017.
Trump is president!

But March 2017 is history and your speculative interpretation doesn't allow for Trump to be president so now you try to figure out some other way to deny that he is really president?

You want to use Babylonian tradition of reckoning a kings reign with the modern calendar?
saying if he is inaugurated after January 1, 2017 the time to -January 1, 2018 doesn't count????


That's the way it always is --
I can't base my understanding on that kind of "prophetic interpretations".

And the one event you pride yourself on "predicting"--
When I look at your method, it still doesn't fit.

You name the seven heads on the beast in Rev. 17 by the names of popes after 1929. Pope Benedict was the seventh.
Yet, it's all so arbitrary. Five have fallen -dead, you wrote at the time John Paul II was still alive. Did it just happened that the apostle John wrote this when John Paul II was still alive?
The beast has seven heads and you name the "seven popes" since the Lateran agreement ending with Benedict, and then you stated that John Paul II would reappear (actually being personated by Satan) as an "eighth" but of the seven.

Yet, now we have Francis.
Oh you say -- we'll just lump the two popes named Pius' into one, and that way we still have only seven? But then Benedict isn't the seventh anymore -- he would be the sixth, and all the points you used to give him "seven years" don't really apply anymore.






And how many times have you told us we are blind, foolish and lost because we don't agree with your interpretations?

The fact is -- I have looked at your studies -- and that is why I can't agree with them, I've tried to reason with you, but you think you have "present truth" and all who disagree are rejecting heaven's gift.

Now you are waiting and hoping for Obama to somehow get back in to validate your interpretation.
Like APL said -- I don't think it will happen.
Since you have so forcefully told everyone he is the last president who will be president when Christ comes, you will continue to search for some hook to hang your hopes on.

While you are waiting for that to happen --
things just might wrap up -- the real prophetic endtime events may burst upon the world.

It is not good prophetic interpretation to fix end time prophecy on an individual man, be he president or pope.

We need to look to Christ and make our calling and election sure NO MATTER WHO IS PRESIDENT.
The events will take place -- are we looking to Christ as our Savior?

"And the ransomed of Jehovah shall return and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy on their heads; they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away." (Isaiah 35:10, MKJV)

Nichol, F. D. (1978; 2002). The Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, Volume 4 (233). Review and Herald Publishing Association.

In the book of Daniel, the "beasts" mentioned in chapter 7 are symbols in which the application thereof are not left to speculations or whims. According to 7:17, the "four beasts" represent "four kings which shall arise out of the earth," and looking into this further, there are several Bible versions which use the word "kingdoms" instead of the word "kings." Infact, in Daniel 7:23, the fourth beast is specifically defined as "the fourth kingdom," and so even in this one short example from scripture, it is easy to see how HC's views of "kings" are not Biblical. I think most can agree that these four beasts represent the same four world powers symbolized by the four world powers in Daniel chapter two. There is no way that the Bible can be used to support HC's depictions and predictions regarding individuals who are kings or presidents, whether past, present or future.

"And he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom on earth, which shall be different from all kingdoms and shall devour the whole earth, and shall trample it and crush it." (Dan 7:23, MKJV)

Now that the air is clear, maybe our discussion can have some substance?

Was that light revealed to her before she died?

The prophecy of Daniel 7 stops at Obama. And Daniel 8 has Obama magnifying himself. Trump is not in either of those prophecies as I understand them.

And Revelation 13 as I understand it does not include Trump. So it is my understanding that Trump will be as though he has never been (less than a year according to Babylonian reckoning). But as we see how he is setting the stage for endtime events, it is apparent that his presidency is ordained of God.

I had initially thought that Christ would have to come within a year of Obama's leaving office, but now I suspect that Obama must come back into office, Either scenario will meet the conditions that are in the prophecy. But I am watching for Obama to come back and be the "OTHER LITTLE HORN."

But that is not the whole truth.

That is truth and it is happening in countries, and especially in America.
Are you suggesting, by you quoting one quote that I shared that it is the sum total of what I've been saying????? If so, you haven't been reading what I've shared .

I do get the impression that you don't think the papacy will be the "head" power in the last days. That somehow Roman papal power will never again be the controlling power. It's healing has already taken place back in 1929 and that's the extent of it.
Of course -- I do not believe that. Prophecy reveals a healing in which the whole world wonders after and worships the 1st beast.

As to the role of the USA in the prophecies -- have I ever denied that -- no -- the USA will use its power to enforce the mandates of the papacy. And that will initiate a great time of trouble.


Your quotes in no way contradict what I've been saying.
In it's early days America was quite anti-papacy. They won't allow Catholics public office for fear that they would do the bidding of the pope instead of working for the good of the country.

Ever read the book "Rome Stoops to Conquer" -- the Papal conquest of America has been going on for many years. America will do the bidding of the papacy.

Yes, this country will yet give it's power to the papacy, to bring about a terrible persecution in the last days.
The endtime crises will be a RELIGIOUS thing!








But none of that needs Obama to be president for it to happen.
And that's the point of objection.

The Ellen White quotes that I shared show that the prophecies move from Rome that was forced to desist from persecution to another power that is the last power to wage war against God and His Church. But you persist in rejecting American Protestants' place in prophecy in favor of your Roman views.

Satan was the power behind paganism and Rome and Satan will be the power behind Apostate Protestant American persecution. And Rome is not the Present Truth that should be focused on most prominently now. The Third Angel's Message has arrived! Preach it in its fullness.