Protestant representatives will be in Europe in October 2017 to sign the agreement, ending the Protestant movement and also apologizing to the papacy for their protest.

October 31 of the year 1517 was the historic day that Martin Luther, the reformer, nailed his 95 theses against the corruptions, abuses and abominations of the Roman Catholic Church on the church door of Wittenberg.

October 31, 1517 is seen as a pivotal date marking the break-through of the Protestant Reformation in influencing the European religious world, which for centuries had been controlled by the papal church.

Wittenberg TODAY

Wittenberg is getting prepared by remodeling and gardening projects. There are posters everywhere announcing “Luther 2017, 500 years of Reformation.”

“One could almost say that the Catholic Church has set out from the path of the Counter-Reformation onto that of the Co-Reformation.” says Gerhard Feige, a Catholic ecumenical officer Bishop, in Magdeburg, Germany, to Luther2017.de.

From the declaration (FROM CONFLICT TO COMMUNION Lutheran-Catholic Common Commemoration of the Reformation in 2017}




It is clear that 2017 marks an interesting year for the Catholic Church. First of all the Catholics will commemorate the 500th anniversary of the beginning of the Reformation. Secondly, it marks fifty years of Lutheran–Roman Catholic dialogue.

A year of events in approach to the anniversary itself opened on October 31, 2016, and will culminate on October 31, 2017.

May 2017 Pope Francis attended a joint Catholic-Lutheran commemoration of the Reformation leading in prayers asking forgiveness for the divisions perpetuated by Christians from two traditions.

The aim == to leave the past behind and focus on common ground, bringing "unity".

I remember -- fifty years ago people thought all this was impossible. Now it's coming -- yet people still scoff at the warnings in scripture and the testimonies, and embrace the "unity of churches" as truth.

Do you have some kind of reference for this meeting that is to take place in October? I would like to read more. This is an interesting development.

Luther 2017 – 500 years since the Reformation. A journey of discovery, so declare headlines.

One decade was set aside between 2008 and 2017,in order to "rewrite" the story of Luther. There were exhibitions, festivals and concerts across Germany celebrating the anniversary of Luther nailing his theses to the door of the Castle Church. But they are not celebrating Luther as declaring the Catholic pope as the "antichrist" or exposing his role in prophecy -- no, it is "an entire decade devoted to Martin Luther: monk, professor and church reformer."

The Catholic church is reclaiming the man they excommunicated as a "heretic" and calling him a "misunderstood" son of the church. Both sides made "mistakes", it is now said, and thus sadly the division happened, now is the time to reconcile.

The last year from Oct. 31, 2016 - Oct. 31, 2017 the year has been special devoted to lead up to Oct. 31, 2017.
Reformation celebrations
The European dimension of the Reformation will be marked by a storymobile truck, “Stories on tour”, that will start in Geneva on 3 November 2016. It will follow a European roadmap linking 68 towns and cities with a Reformation connection in 19 countries before arriving at Wittenberg on 20 May 2017 for the start of a four-month World Reformation Exhibition, “Gates of Freedom”. Here churches, organizations, groups and artists will present their perspectives on the Reformation.

On 31 October 2017 there is an official ceremony planned for Wittenberg. However, the focus will be on a “decentralised” commemoration, said Bedford-Strohm, with services in the various regional churches in Germany.


Lutherns and Catholics sign joint declaration already Oct. 31, 2016 at the beginning of the year long events to promote the death of the protest of Protestantism, and lead to their unity with the Catholic system.

But things started even earlier:
Also on October 31st, 1999, Roman Catholic officials and most of the Lutheran churches signed the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification regarding some of the issues at the root of the Protestant Reformation.

October 31, 2017 marks the 500 years of Protestantism. Will Protestantism be marked as "dead" and the "new reformation" which is talked so much about be declared?

Red Globe In front of the town hall in Wittenberg, stands a big globe, placed there to commemorate the reformation. The continents of the whole world are in red color – The color of reformation and revolution. In the middle of the globe, it says: “Reformation 2017”

The "reformation" to end protest and denominational separation and to be united in one world religion of peace and the gospel (is it the real gospel? Hardly)


It is no secret that Pope Francis is a Jesuit. The primary objectives of Jesuits are to overthrow Protestantism, annihilate Protestants and reestablish Roman Catholicism throughout the nations.

Yet the protestants are following him with awe and reverence.


Wittenberg 2017

So would a correct response be to publish a list of the 95 theses with a statement of whether Luther's concerns were incorrect, or still exists today?

A counter publicity stunt, in effect.

What triggered Luther's theses?

Wasn't it Tetzel, operating under papal authority, going around selling indulgences?
Does the Catholic church still sell indulgences?


Head line in 'Our Sunday Visitor" 9/9/15
Pope Francis announces jubilee indulgences Ahead of the Year of Mercy, which begins Dec. 8, the Holy Father outlines ways in which faithful can obtain indulgences"

Ahh -- it's obvious, the search engines come up with multiple sites talking about all the indulgences the pope is offering, the trigger cause for Luther's act which launched the reformation is still very much part of the Catholic Church.

Pastor Walter Veith has a series of lectures called "From Crete to Malta". It's five lectures directed at Protestant Churches world-wide.

He warns all Protestants against this phony unity being proposed by Rome to keep us from falling into it. Pastor Veith was very clear.

Very powerful post, dedication.

This should be brought to the attention of the people, especially in Germany.

Yes, an excellent resource and exposure of what is taking place.

Part one From Crete to Malta

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How can current Protestantism really object to indulgences any more? Many of them don't even accept the idea of sin and repentance, so to what purpose would they object to indulgences? When Trump was a candidate he once said he didn't think he'd ever done anything that would cause him to need to repent, and the nominal Protestants didn't find anything wrong with what he said.

While America never set up a religion as a state religion to dominate the religious lives of its citizens, yet the prevailing religion in America in the early years was Protestantism.

Methodists, Lutheran, Presbyterians, Baptists, Calvinists, Quakers, Congregationalist, or Episcopalian and a host of sub-divisions from main denominations had their churches scattered all over America. Their members influenced the fabric of American culture.

Each protestant denomination defending their right to be different than the others, yet together they did influence American culture. The centrality of the family, the importance of faithfulness, integrity, and moral living were part of the American culture, not because it was regulated, but because it was part of the individual believing protestant lifestyle.

That's the way it should be --
Not by government enforcement, but by the influence of churches filled with believing Christians within their communities, being an influence to those around them to live according to a higher standard.

What happened?

How did Protestantism die?

How is it that in our day, any attempt to speak in the old-fashioned voice of moral criticism -- like calling sin by it's right name, and urging repentance, is now considered "politically incorrect" and "intolerant" and other silencing names?

I believe (and yes EGW's writings confirm) that the Sabbath issue was a big reason for Protestantism's death.

How we may ask?

Because the Sabbath is the link that tied Protestantism to Catholic "traditions" and destroyed their claim of being "sola scripture".

Protestantism, which had firmly believed the ten commandments were God's guide to personal godly living, were introduced to the fourth commandment as early as the days of Luther -- the Seventh-day Baptists accepted it, and there were others who also accepted it, but most Protestants weren't yet convicted of it. But in the 1800's the seventh day Sabbath was made more prominent. The three angel's messages were sounding in the world --
Would it be accepted or would the Christian world turn against it?

To avoid the claims of the seventh day Sabbath, Protestantism did a strange thing -- they not only rejected the 4th commandment, they rejected the ten commandments altogether.
"Nailed to the cross" they said. To remember the Sabbath to keep it holy is "legalism" and opposes grace, and therefore that command should not be obeyed.
How strange -- if observing the fourth commandment is "legalism" and opposed to grace, and the ten commandments were "nailed to the cross" and "taken out of the way", then keeping the fifth, sixth and seventh (etc) commandments would also be "legalism" and opposed to grace.
That's only logical deduction.

So yes, many did follow to that logical conclusion and now no longer accept the idea of sin and repentance. That is also a logical conclusion for if it is "legalism" that 'frustrates grace" to obey God's commandments, and by rejecting and transgressing one of God's commandments we supposedly are "living by grace", then they have automatically done away with sin.
Sin is the transgression of God's law according to 1 John 3.

Well, ==
once the protestants in America largely "nailed" God's law to the "cross" and declared the keeping of it's precepts "legalism" and opposed to "grace", they lost their moral influence in the community.

Those who still clung to the "old ways" were called "fundamentalists" and the word started taking on negative meaning.

Next--
Religion that has lost it's spiritual influence is appalled when society takes its premises to their natural conclusion (that God's laws are no longer binding) and start living in defiance of God's laws!
The so called protestants even wring their hands when people say nothing is "true" everything simply depends on whether it seems good, or seems unwise, there is no such thing as "sin" or "absolutes".
And yet that is what they taught! Why are they surprised?

Oh they will say, God's laws ARE still binding on the sinner, but not on Christians. So the next step, they feel they must get the government to pass laws forcing proper morality and worship in society.

That's where the Catholic Church stood for centuries -- so why not join hands with the papal church?

So Protestantism is dead,
after all "fundamentalists" don't fit into the new picture, so why cling to divisive doctrines?
Yes, they agree there is a need for a certain amount of morality in society -- but let's impose that by law for "outward" conformity,
and all join together in charismatic "experiential" worship without worrying about doctrines, sin, etc. etc.

That paradigm is sweeping the religious world.

The serious question for us is --
Where do we stand in this?
Is Protestantism still alive and moving forward in lives.?

"Here is the patience of the saints, here are they that keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus" Rev. 14:12