Elle,

The answer to your question about Jekyll Island and nephilim is, no. I don't accept their current presence as anything other than evil angels posing as human giants. The book I referenced is purely about the Federal Reserve and it's true functions and goals. If it had gotten into something as sketchy as current nephilim I would not have purchased or read it.

Were there giants after the flood? Yes. Noah and his sons were giants, as were all the antedeluvians. But, they all died off and the cumulative effects of sin transformed humanity into who we are today. I don't necessarily doubt the claims of those who claim to have found the graves of giants, but when we start getting into the "return" of the nephilim as claimed by North American Indians we are getting into Satanic deceptions for this is just another distraction created by the devil to keep us excited about anything but preparing to meet Jesus when He comes again. Why will there be no "return" of the nephilim as claimed? Because there will be no resurrection of the dead until Christ comes. Therefore any beings appearing to be giant humans are going to be a deception. Humanity was denied access to the tree of life six thousand years ago, and even in the antedulivian environment which was much more friendly to human life than our current environment, no one lived more than a thousand years.

Maybe they hid in the stone jars.

That was pretty funny, Green. I got a kick out of it.

I've actually been pretty interested in all this since I first heard Rene Noorbergen, who wrote Prophet of Destiny, speak at the Walla Walla College church in 1979 or 1980. I bought his book Secrets of the Lost Races after hearing him speak, and it is still one of the better books out there on this kind of stuff.

I just bought couple of his other books, The Ark File and The Death Cry of an Eagle. This second book is really good. It shows how the US has moved away from its roots of Christianity and as a result is in the same sharp decline the Babylonian, Greek, and Roman empires went through, and for the same reasons. It was published in 1980 and I can only say he was basically prophetic in what he saw back then.

Tim Bence talks about descendants of Niphilims. And The Bible does say much about Nephilims and their descendants after the flood. Check what the Bible say.

I opened another discussion if anyone interested to discuss this further. Here's the link to the discussion : http://www.maritime-sda-online.com/forum...amp;#Post184822

I don't know what exactly you are talking about with the section I underlined and bolded above. The Jekyll Island tour quides and museum does not claim that these 8 feet to 8.5 feet tall skeletons found on Jekyll Islands are nephilims... they claim they are a native indian tribe.

It is Tim Bence, who have an archeological background and knowledge of American indians and he saw that the artifacts, pictures, and bones found does not reflect natives American Indians. But more similar to what he saw in Syria, Irak, whatever land the Cannanites occupied in the old times where he had already had went before going to JeKyll Island.

So from your reply, you seem like you didn't even watch the whole video or any of it. There's a longer video (4 hrs version) where the first hour Tim Bence talks about where he was(at another Cannanite sacrificial alter site in Syria or Irak or around that place, where it was brought down by the help of a local boy) just before the Lord ask him to go to Jekyll Island (the 2nd hour portion of the video). That's was a very powerful testimony.


Skip the 3 min introduction.

I would be more specific in my term usage...I would call them as descendants of the Nephilims not Nephilims. However, these ancients civilizations or tribes lost much of the giants statue with time as they crossed with ordinary people. They were still inspired by the Nephilims and its teachings when conducting these children sacrifices to Lucifer-Baal-Molech.

That's what Israel were doing when they entered to possess the land of the Canaanites...they ended up joining with the Canaanites worship & customs and polluted the land with the blood sacrifices and offering their own children to Molech. Many of these altars where not destroyed and the Lord commanded us to destroy them. So that's what Tim Bence has been called to do when some of these archeological altar sites where found.

Elle,

No, I didn't watch the video. I don't buy into this tale of evil angels mating with humans and from that giants appearing in the land. My take on giants comes from a source you have rejected, Ellen White.

She says that Adam came forth from the hand of God at more than twice the size of modern day man. Now what exactly does that mean? I'm not sure. Was she referring to the average height of a man in her day, around 5'9", or was she referring to the height of a tall man in her day? I simply do not know and there is no way of finding out. At twice the height of an average man of her day Adam would have been 11'6" tall. If she was referring to a 6' tall man at exactly twice his height Adam would have been 12' tall. How much more than twice she meant no one knows. But it's probably safe to say that Adam, and antedeluvian men at large, were probably at least 12' tall and less than 18' tall for that would be 3 times the height of a 6' tall man.

This means there were 8 giants on the ark during the flood. And the effects of sin and a far less hospitable environment, compared to pre-flood times, to live in caused mankind to shrink. So will there be graves of giants found at some point? Of course there will. But they will not be graves of men who were amalgamated with evil angels. They will simply be the graves of men who lived in the first few generations after the flood. Humanity has decreased in size as it has decreased in longevity as sin has reduced what Ellen White refers to as our "vital force". We are also far less intelligent than Adam too. We, the smartest among us, only use approximately 10% of our brains. This is what makes me believe that we are only now beginning to reach the technological level of the antedeluvians. Those people lived for 100's of years and used far more of their God-given intellectual capacity than we are capable of doing.

I can't believe it. Elle, I thought you were speaking of Jekyl island and nephilim were allegorical as "Babylon" is. But you really believe that, don't you?!

My comment : A major step in the destruction of Mystery Babylon -- Federal Reserve debt-slavery system.... Ethereum (block-chain technology) is currently a solution and replacing the Babylonian corrupt banking system. Both Russia and China are currently integrating this technology in various ways in their country.

Some examples :

Russia Launches $100 Million Bitcoin-Mining Operation

Aug 8, 2017 : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-08/russia-launches-100-million-bitcoin-mining-operation

Russia’s biggest banks take lead in embracing blockchain technology

Aug 2, 2017 : https://www.rt.com/business/398308-russias-banks-blockchain-digital-currencies/

A Russian Airline Is Now Using Blockchain to Issue Tickets
July 25, 2017 : https://www.coindesk.com/russian-airline-using-blockchain-for-tickets/

Putin Meets With Ethereum Founder To Create National Virtual Currency

June 12, 2017 : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-12...irtual-currency


China to Start Using Blockchain to Collect Taxes and Send Invoices
July 2017 : https://futurism.com/china-to-start-using-blockchain-to-collect-taxes-and-send-invoices/

China’s Social Security to Use Blockchain Tech
2016 : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/chinas-social-security-use-blockchain-tech/

The whole block-chain/Bitcoin thing is not going to ever be anything that will "take over" the world economy. It would not be possible due to technical and other reasons. take, for example, this reference to Russia. $100 million dollars is next to nothing in the grand whole-story picture of the world's economy. Some things are "emphasized/embellished by certain media to make them things they are not. Bitcoin is more a haven for crooks to launder/hide their money. The leader of North Korea could tell us a few things about that.

The Wanderer...don't confuse the current bitcoin popularity that is non-gold-backed vs. the new coming gold-backed currencies that they want to apply the block chain technology(Ethereum) to it.

A return to a gold-backed currencies is what China, Russia and all other 200+ nations has been pushing since 2010. They won't settle for nothing less. They see great potential in using the Ethereum technology not only to be applied on a gold-back currencies, but to insure security between countries bi-lateral agreements, sharing sensitive documents, and other examples of what the Ethereum can be applied around the world that will lessen the dependency of banks, insurance cie, government control, etc.....

I have already discussed about this about a few month ago in this post below that I'm bumping. You probably missed it.