Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega. In the endtime 11th hour, the first shall be last and the last shall be first. The 11th hour has past, and the last hour is upon us. The judgment hours of the dead and the living have ended. We are in the final sealing time when the 144000 are being sealed.

The fourth angel is sounding to unite his voice with the 3 angels' messages and President Michael Pence is about to stand for his people. Then Michael will stand for His people.

That's the way I read it.

o somebody help me! rofl

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We will know that God is wrapping it up and that the Judgment hour of the living has ended when the Mark of the Beast is implemented. The Mark of the Beast described in the Third Angel's Message is a test like the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden. The test is one of obedience. The devil is a liar (deceiver).

The command is DO NOT take the Mark of the beast and it is clearly identified that it relates to the universal ability to buy and sell. Thus if one chooses to explain away the Command not to participate in the endtime universal scheme for buying and selling, when it is first implemented or anytime along the way, they are disobeying a clear thus saith the LORD. Thus when the Mark of the Beast matures and is linked to worship, Those who were duped that took it in ignorance are just as wrong as Eve. Those who reason that participating in a universal monetary scheme cannot affect their eternal relationship with God are just as wrong as Adam who knowingly disobeyed God's instruction.

Those who hold out and refuse to take the universal monetary system when it first is introduced will be challenged with Sunday sacredness vs Sabbath sacredness. If people accept the concept that man has the right to choose his day of worship, they will rationalize that this universal monetary system is not the Mark of the Beast. On the other hand, if they see the significance of obeying God's Command to keep Sabbath holy, they will choose to keep the Sabbath and reject a man made day of worship. Those are the ones who will not be deceived.

Judgment begins at the House of God. If God's professed people disobey the commandment not to accept the universal monetary system they place themselves in danger. they may rationalize that it is not linked to Sabbath/Sunday sacredness and opt in. But they won't opt out when it is linked down the road.

This is why it is so important to know where we are in prophetic history and who the endtime rulers are who will bring these events about. Knowing that the Judgment Hour of the dead and Living has ended and that we are in the final sealing time is a salvation issue. Denying that this information is not available from sound Bible prophecy study is Choosing to remain in ignorance. Those who take that position will not be prepared for the disaster that is about to overwhelm the world.

His Child, could you explain how what you wrote addressed any of what I said?

Follow the clues

HC wrote "The judgment hours of the dead and the living have ended."

So are you saying the door is shut --once the judgment is ended, he that is just will remain just and he who is unjust will remain unjust.
So are you saying forget about praying for your loved ones to come to Christ?
Are you saying forget about sharing the gospel -- the door is shut -- the judgment is ended the harvest is decided?
Is that the message according to HC ???

No that is not the message for this time.
For one thing -- the first angel's message is an announcement to all people, it is the substance of all three messages (the everlasting gospel, the truth of God our Creator and the memorial of His creation, the judgement hour. It is still SOUNDING, calling people to come and worship the Creator God, the door of mercy is OPEN. Christ is still presenting the names of His redeemed before the Father and the angels.

The other two messages are warnings to leave belief systems that do not teach the first message, and the dire results of staying in those systems.
The third message also pronouncing a blessing on those who with endurance keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus.
Which takes us right back to the first message of the everlasting gospel, and by faith keeping all ten commandments including the fourth which acknowledges God as our Creator and the One Who sanctifies us.

The first angel's message has not ended. Indeed it is still to be sounded with a loud voice, along with 2nd and 3rd message, and the reinforcement from a fourth angel of Rev. 18. The "hour of His judgment" is still on going. The door is still open.

There is yet a harvest.

And yes, there will also be a lot of Adventists, who have not yet really committed themselves to Christ, who will yet do so.

HC is creating a lot of "dots" based on "hidden codes" he says are in scripture.

He sees "hidden codes" in the following
"Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last."

He makes the "Alpha" an "A" and the Omega a "W"
Then says presidents which have first a "W" in their name and then an "A" in their name is an "Alpha and Omega".

Thus he has moved from Bush II being the last president, then to Obama being last president, -- he doesn't seem quite sure about what to do with Trump, but now has discovered a "new secret code" in the vise presidents name, to predict Michael Pence will be the last president.



Of course Obama was not the last either.

But then CH noticed Daniel 12:1 speaking of "Michael standing up" --
and saw in that another "secret code"=== Pence has that name "Michael".

Though to be consistent -- Daniel 10;13,21 also speak of Michael coming to the aid of Gabriel to "withstand the princes of Persia". Is this also talking of Michael Pence?

No! Michael is a title given to Christ, the Son of God, to depict His role as commander of the angels.

Alpha and Omega, are also titles given to Christ, depicting that He is the beginning of salvation and will bring it to a victorious conclusion!

To take these titles and assign them to presidents simply not right.



Now Pence, a former Catholic, turned into an evangelical Christian and one of the country’s most outwardly religious and socially conservative legislators, does look like someone who could legislate religious laws IF he becomes a president someday.

I have no problem with looking at POSSIBILITIES, but to make what seems "a possibility" into a supposed prophetic truth, built on "secret codes" as we have seen in the many attempts to identify the last president -- is standing on shaky ground.


We need to leave the "secret codes" and speculations, stop the confusion of symbols, and share with power the straight forward message of the three angels.

For indeed time is short - and the sealing time is now.

Yes, and the judgment works both ways. One will not love and trust God is they judge Him to be a tyrant. Christ came to represent the Father. Jesus came to teach men of the Father, to correctly represent him before the fallen children of earth. The Father was revealed in Christ as altogether a different being from that which Satan had represented him to be.

The only way to Judge God aright, is to know Him as He is. It is the Everlasting Gospel! Gospel = GOOD NEWS. Sadly, I don't see that in the discourses HCH gives. His message seems to be home many right tweets he has made, and don't focus on when he is wrong. Is this good news?

The First Angel's Message is about God and the Good News about Him! What is the last message of mercy to the world? Trump-Pence?

It is the darkness of misapprehension of God that is enshrouding the world. Men are losing their knowledge of His character. It has been misunderstood and misinterpreted. At this time a message from God is to be proclaimed, a message illuminating in its influence and saving in its power. His character is to be made known. Into the darkness of the world is to be shed the light of His glory, the light of His goodness, mercy, and truth. {COL 415.3}

This is the work outlined by the prophet Isaiah in the words, "O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God! Behold, the Lord God will come with strong hand, and His arm shall rule for Him; behold, His reward is with Him, and His work before Him." Isaiah 40:9,10. {COL 415.4}

Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love. The children of God are to manifest His glory. In their own life and character they are to reveal what the grace of God has done for them. {COL 415.5}

Absolutely NOT. You have a grand imagination to surmise so much from what I never said or implied.

Ezekiel 9 might enlighten you as to the Judgment of the LIVUNG.

The dead are dead and their cases are forever settled...they cannot change their eternal destiny.

The time allotted for the judgment of the Living ended on 2/14/13 in that every individual had their case reviewed by the Father with Christ interceding for them at that time.

But the sealing angel is now placing the seal of God on the foreheads of those who have been judged as worthy.
The sealing Angel has not yet returned to say that it is done. Thus Christ has not declared that we are fixed in our eternal destiny.

As surely as the names of all have been placed in the books of life and death, the open accounts can and are being updated as Christ is being accepted anew or being rejected.

You begin by asking questions of me then before I say a word you assume what you think to be my reply and run with it. It is difficult enough for me to be clear without you making assumptions and attributing your erroneous presumptions to me.

Daniel 4 reveals that the Judgment Hour of King Nebuchadnezzar arrived at a specific time.

Daniel 4 also reveals that the Judgment Hour of King Nebuchadnezzar had duration 7 years.

Revelation 14 states that the Judgment Hour has come (it arrived in 1844)

What is the duration of the Judgment Hour? If we fail to do the work God appointed in the Judgment Hour, will it go on forever?

EGWhite stated that some of Revelation is in the past, the present, and the future.

That is difficult to fathom if one tries to place all prophecy in the past or future.

And there are some prophecies that have multiple meanings that could apply to the past, present, and future.

The Hour of His judgment is one of those prophecies. The Hour of His Judgment began in the past (1844), continued through what was a present period of time, and ended at a date future to its commencement, which is now in the past since history has continued after prophecy met fulfillment. Thus now it can be said of the 1844 Judgment Hour that both its commencement and duration are in the past.

Thus the question that follows...Is that true of the Judgment Hour of the Living as well? That it is past, present, or to continue into the future?

But most Adventists who think about such things focus on the point in time for the Judgment Hour to begin and forget that an Hour has DURATION.