I do agree that the Old Jerusalem is no longer the sacred place. But I do not agree with the underlined and bolded section. I don't know where Ellen got her scriptures to support that; but she doesn't have the understanding of Galatian 4 of the New Jerusalem via the old Jerusalem that needs to be cast out, nor the coming destruction of Old Jerusalem as prophecied in Jer 19 and Isaiah 29.

Jer 19:11 "And shalt say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Even so will I break this people and this city, as one breaketh a potter's vessel, that cannot be made whole again"

The underlined portion of the prophecy above says that the Old Jerusalem will never be made whole again.

Gal 4:22 "22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem [the OLD Jerusalem] which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

26 But Jerusalem which is above[the NEW Jerusalem] is free, which is the mother of us all.

27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free."

So according to scriptures and prophecies, Hagar who represents an old covenant marriage and who answers to the Old Jerusalem, and her children who was conceive by the flesh --- has to be cast out.

So we need to stop answering to the Old Jerusalem that was only types and shadows by which the Israelites were slaves via an old covenant mindset (salvation depends on our promises -- "All that the LORD hath spoken we will do." Ex 19:8). We are to become children of the free woman who answers to the New Jerusalem that is above that has a new covenant mindset(salvation depends on God's promises -- to write His laws in our hearts. Jer 31:33).

My comment : Below is a few articles relating to Israel. Remember that the Israel state is run by the Zionist Leaders (that includes the Banking Cabal) who are Satanist and not your typical Jewish believer.

1. Describes the cruel blood shedding in the Gaza strip by the Israel state and its army IDF (Israel Defence Force). MSM (Mainstream Media) doesn't cover this and when they do it is to side with the Israel state.

2. Media shielding policy of Israel.

3. Israel doesn't have ISIS anymore to do their dirty works in Syria.

4. The dark relations between UK and Israel.

The Death of Razan al-Najjar and Israel's Culture of Impunity

June 8th, 2018

https://www.sott.net/article/387577-The-Death-of-Razan-al-Najjar-and-Israels-Culture-of-Impunity

Media cover-up: The policy of shielding Israel

April 17th, 2018

https://www.sott.net/article/383330-Media-cover-up-The-policy-of-shielding-Israel

Israel is in 'panic' after losing 'dear' ISIS and Al-Nusra terrorists in Syria says Assad

May 31st, 2018

https://www.sott.net/article/387028-Isra...yria-says-Assad

The dark truth about the UK's special relationship with Israel

June 5th, 2018

https://www.sott.net/article/387484-The-dark-truth-about-the-UKs-special-relationship-with-Israel

Ok, I understand that you do not start the year by other methods. But you said so much stuff not relevant to my question before and now. Could you precisely and concisely state when your EVENTS start your year?

My comment : Here's the International Tribunal for Natural Justice being setup to trial criminal activities amongst our top leaders inside the US government and in other countries. Currently children sacrificing and sex slavery is high in their priorities.

Like many has said including QAnon this hidden truth is going to shock the world. I see this as part of God's plan to bring the people into repentance and to bring them to yearn for a better and righteous government that can only be found in God's laws and selected leaders.

The International Tribunal for Natural Justice
June 9th, 2018

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...atural-justice/

Well, I perceived it was relevant to your question as you were trying to figure out to set time with OT mindset methods that God has not taught us to do.

Like :

1. having the Old Jerusalem as a reference point when God told us via Jeremiah that He removed His name and will destroy that city.

2. as thinking that many of the Law writings are no longer abiding including the feasts. I will agree that the "OT form" (that was meant to be a teaching tool and pointing to greater things to come) has changed like said in the book of Hebrew. It is the New Covenant form that God is fulfilling.

3. as taking the OT writings literally when scriptures tells us they are teaching tools that points to greater spiritual things to come...meaning they are prophetic, spiritual, and promises to us of what God is currently fulfilling and will accomplish in the futur. This is what we are watching for in the events.

Without looking at the OT Laws writings (the Pentateuch) which from my understanding are the foundation by which God's work stem from in conducting the events we see being executed year after year to bring about His promises into the world. The vows He made (to write His laws in every individuals heart made in Jer 31:33 and make every one His people in Deut 29:14-15) are His objectives and reasons why He is accomplishing these events.

So by thinking that any law or the feasts are not abiding anymore...we rob ourselves of not knowing a portion of God's plan of salvation...thus won't be able to understand God's works in the current events that takes place from year to year.

So I needed to address these 3 points plus the fact that we cannot rely on our mind of the "natural man"(==the soul see 1Cor 2:14) to figure these out because our natural mind cannot understand spiritual things. Spiritual things needs to be understood from our new created man (the spiritual man who has its own mind that is conform to Christ's mind that reside in our spirit).

I do acknowledge that my communication skills are weak and apologize for that.


These are God's EVENTS (not mine nor any other man's) for He triggers them on Feast dates.

God has instructed some (those that can hear His voice and follow Him) in addition in watching the Feast dates to start by watching the Feast dates on the Gregorian calendar. Meaning on January which is an equivalence of the first month of the Feast dates; we watch January 10, 14, 15, 22. The second month of the Gregorian calendar are also watch dates as it is the second Passover as given in Num 9 : Febuary 10, 14, 15, 22 are watch dates also. We should watch also the month of July (1, 10, 15, 22) which is an equivalence of the 7th month Feast watch dates.

My understanding is whatever was flagged on the Gregorian calendar dates should match (be relevant but provide additional information) what was flagged on the actual feast dates. Actually the events on the Gregorian dates are little pre-events(signs) of what will come on the actual feast dates. I'm not certain, but I think that also the Passover are pre-events(signs) of the Tabernacle Feast dates events which is the culmination prophetic time for the year.

Significant events that can be flagged doesn't happen on all those Gregorian Calendar dates nor on all the dates of the actual Feast dates that happens 3 months later.

How can we tell what events is valid on any of these watch dates and how to interpret them in relation to what law God's is fulfilling in these events?

Well many things; but I'll only mention 3.

1. It only can comes from the mind of your spiritual man that was conceived by the Holy Spirit.

2. It comes from pre-knowledge of what God has accomplish from previous years.

3. Where we are at in the plan of salvation as told to us in the pattern in the law and the prophets in scriptures.

How do we know what day the Feast dates start in a particular year?

Most Jewish Feast calendars and other religious groups are 1 or 2 days (rarely 3 days but can happened) discrepancies from each other. Then in some years we have a month discrepancies to deal with the leap year. Whatever EVENT that is flagged (for instance this year was the Chinese Yuan-Oil future contracts officially made world wide happened on a 10th day relative to the first moon) sets when the Feast dates start for the year.

I know I am repeating myself but I hope the above expression is clearer and helps understand what I currently understand how God communicates to His people via these Feast watch dates.

Still trying to filter through the non-relevant stuff, I gather you are saying the year starts on Gregorian January 1.


But hear, you are talking of "actual" feast dates. So the question is yet again, when do you say they start, that is, when is the first of the year for the "actual" feast dates? (continued:)

Are you saying the actual feast dates always start 3 months after Gregorian January 1? Otherwise, what you said before, they are not 1 day apart from one promoter to another:


In case you missed my main question above, here it is:
When do you say is the first of the year for the "actual" feast dates?

My comment : Italy's detaching from the Euro with the mini-bots proposition and the Deutsche Bank in a verge of failure are two major current events that might trigger an economic collapse for the western countries. Many economist and financial experts says that the collapse of the old corrupt system must happen before these countries can get on with the Eastern countries plans in building the New Economic structure. Many are saying that Trump and the Patriots are on board in accelerating this collapse.

The timeline for the collapse of the Babylonian's central banks could be this summer. I've been hearing this circulating around but we've heard this before.

However, the Italian's wanting to step away from the Euro and issue their own sovereign currency is quite serious and detrimental for all of Europe's central banks that will have a domino effect on other central banks around the world. If the Italian's succeeds, then it will pave the way for the other European countries that wants to do the same.

Right now countries cannot buy or sell outside the Babylonian's Federal reserve banking system that all the central banks are tied to. For the Italians to issue their own sovereign currency by which would be use only domestically, will be the first; but a necessary step for other nations to follow. This step is within the plans of the new global economic restructure. Every country needs to print their own sovereign currency backed by gold or other assets that would be used domestically.

Jim's anonymous contact that he named "the voice", who presumably works with the Eastern countries in building the new economic system, says that there will be two major triggers that will happened very soon (this summer?). Here's a quote from there discussion :



This summer, especially the month of July with its watch dates (1, 10, 15, 22) will be interesting to watch and see what the Lord has in mind to accomplish next.

Below is Jim Willie's monthly special report that address Italy, Deutsche Bank, and the potential two triggers that would move the remaining surviving central banks to conform to a gold back standard.

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1528141655.php

Your answer was in the last paragraph of my post :

My comment : Here's 3 recent articles that shows some of the western allied countries shifting away and moving towards with the Eastern countries Economic restructure. I usually don't track these but since these happened so close to each other I flagged them in my computer.

The Western allied countries moving away from Babylon's system and joining with the Eastern allied countries in effort to step away from the Federal Reserve notes is growing at a very fast pace. Mystery Babylon is collapsing before our eyes.

Russia Building The Trans-Arabian Railway Will Make The Saudis More Multipolar

June 5th, 2018
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-0...more-multipolar

Austrian president: 'No need for Europe to buy US gas at triple the price, will continue imports from Russia'

June 5th, 2018
https://www.sott.net/article/387417-Aust...rts-from-Russia

Bulgaria does a complete 180, begs Russia for new gas pipeline deal

June 4th, 2018
https://www.sott.net/article/387425-Bulg...s-pipeline-deal

I'm sorry, you're going to have to spell it out for me. You say "the first moon". Yes, that is the question, when do you say is the first of the year? This year?

I don't know how to ask my question any more clear. I find it odd that you have not understood my question and why you have yet to answer it.

Here it is: When do you say is the first of this year that starts the new moons which starts the "actual" feast dates?