Not necessarily. There are too many variables in both terms. How do you define "genuine faith?" How do you determine what "accurate prophecy" is?

If "genuine faith produce[s] accurate prophecy" can we then say that "accurate prophecy is the result of genuine faith?" I would find this to be a unsound principle, with the potential to assume "genuine faith" when a prophecy appears to be "correctly interpreted." Or to question someone's faith because they got the prophecy wrong.

Did William Miller have genuine faith? Yet he got the prophecy wrong.

Or maybe I've even got this question wrong. Do you mean MAKING the prophecy or INTERPRETING the prophecy?

For me, I will not equate the one with the other.

These folk, Dedication, claim to have received direct revelation. I used to question whether the Lord would grant the prophetic gift outside of Adventism but it's become clear to me that he has done this throughout sacred history, bypassing His own people who have had great light but not followed it.



If God did this to brighten the hopes of the Gentiles with the news of His first Advent, will He do less for His scattered flock before His second? Here's one of several modern examples.
We're unwise if we dismiss these out of hand. We're to test these against scripture as it says: "Despise not prophesyings" but "Try the spirits".

And by faith, you still insist on a Greek Omega being the equivalent and the translation of the English letter "W" even when you have been corrected?


Yes, there's a difference, isn't there?

Faith and presumption are difficult to distinguish. I was sure that Obama would come back, until I learned the details about Pence.

As I continued to study the Lord blessed my understanding.

President Obama was America's last president that was elected the old fashion way. Of President Trump, it can be said that 1) he purchased the office or 2) the Russians duped us into electing him. The jury is still out on that So we will have to wait on the prophecy to align with history before we understand it.


And now I know that President Trump will leave office and President Pence will succeed him with the help of a few men. So I suspect that impeachment is in Mr. Trumps immediate future. I suspect that the war with Iran will precipitate it and that the Mid-term election will change the composition of the congress to facilitate the change.

But other than being confident that Michael Pence is prophesied to be America's last president, some of the details are pending.

The details are here as far as I follow Daniel and Revelation: https://www.amazon.com/Highest-Loyalty-T...highest+loyalty

As Dedication stated, I am in good company, The 1843 Adventist's adjusted their position when more light came to point out 1844 and when they were wrong about 1844 they studied some more and updated their understanding while others doubted and stopped following Jesus.

The parable of the 10 virgins tells us that five will be prepared as Noe was in his day and five will awake when the Bridegroom's arrival occurs so that there can be no doubt. Unfortunately, the fate of the foolish virgins is like that of those in Noe's day who waisted their time away that could have been used in Bible study, contrary to those in Berea who were more noble than those in Thessalonica BECAUSE THE BEREANS STUDIED TO understand THE TRUTH THAT Paul SHARED WITH THEM.


If prophetic time had stopped in 1844 Revelation would not use it after 1844 and Sister White would not cite 3 instances of prophetic time after 1844. But those who are in the majority among the brethren and sisters of the SDA church propagate errors that have come into the church since 1844 because they think that they are right. No matter how hard I try to point them to turn from their misinterpretations, they won't hear. So sad. Too bad. Too bad.

By sight you can't see something like a w when it is written in front of you. But Isaiah warns that there will be those who hearing , hear not, and seeing , see not.

But it is not up to me to convince anyone of the rightness of my prophetic understand. I can share only what I know when I know it and the Holy Spirit is given to lead us into truth.

There is a very big difference however, the Advent Movement in the 1840's was not the work of a single man, but many in various parts of the world.

Charity, I agree that the Holy Spirit is working with people in a mighty way. Time is very short, and God's desire is to gather people into the fold of truth and salvation. Christ died for every person out there and is working to reach their hearts and minds so they will choose life! Yes, He does send dreams and their interpretation, and other forms of communication

On the other hand, the devil also knows his time is short and is mounting an ever strengthening counterfeit prophetic movement.
The dragon, the beast and THE FALSE PROPHET will work mightily to confuse and deceive the people and lead them into a counterfeit worship.

We are in the middle of an intense war, and the prize is our souls.



I believe we were given a firm foundation of prophetic for these last days, truth by Christ which was given to us through EGW. That foundational understanding brings Bible prophecy into life through which we make sense of the unfolding of world events.

It's very true that the Holy Spirit is preparing people who are searching for truth. Multitudes will take up the standard which people who at one time were blessed with the truth, left in the dust.

I fully agree that we need to "test the spirits".
Check to see which paradigm of thought do they follow?

When Jesus said, AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH, how many people do you supposed God used to warn the antediluvians of their pending judgment?


When Jesus said, AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH, when was Jesus talking about?

Better to focus on the message and not the number of messengers.

To each generation there comes a testing message that will draw folks to God or turn them away. The message that is from God will do its appointed work.

Sounds pretty much like in the days of Jesus. Folks heard something in His preaching that didn't align with their paradigms so they rejected Jesus. Worse yet, they used their influence to get others to reject Jesus as well.


The other angel in Rev 18 is uniting His voice to give the LOUDCRY and God's people will hear it. (At least 5 of the 10 virgins will hear it before it is too late.)