What happened at the Flood, what forces where unleashed which only know are being understood in the immensity of its scale and power. Scientist are finding clues, but its a slow sledding as they say, as its tearing apart their favorite theory, evolution.

Let's take a look at Genesis 1:9-10:
And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good”, Genesis 1:9-10.

God gathered the waters together into 'one place,' separate from the dry land of Earth, where He put the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve, with all the trees and plants and the animals. So what happened to the dry land of the earth and all the things on it, in Noah's time? Geologists have stumbled across clues that allow them to begin reconstructing the sequence of events which happened from what can only the Biblical Flood. What survived the Flood makes it possible to begin putting together the puzzle, using what we know today of the earth's surface plates. Evidence indicates that the continents were broken from one piece and moved around, and crashed against the other plates, but the core pieces seem to have survived.

Geologists call the cores of these pieces "cratons" of which North America appears to be one of these cratons. They appear to have been joined together as one, as most scientist agree it was part of a major component of the earth's supercontinent, but violent forces from below, unleashed during the Flood, tore them into many fragments.

Geologist Antonio Snider-Pellegrini in 1859, noticed the jigsaw puzzle fit of North and South America with Europe and Africa if the Atlantic Ocean basin were closed up. He also read Genesis in the Bible and realized that the landmass God formed on Day 3 of the Creation Week was probably a supercontinent, which broke apart during the Flood and a continental shift opened up today's Atlantic Ocean. Thus was born the catastrophic plate tectonics model, which provides a physical mechanism for the Flood.

Lets read Genesis 7:11:
“11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.” Genesis 7:11.

At the start of the Flood the fountains of the deep were broken up ripping apart the pre-Flood supercontinent. When the original continent broke apart at the Flood, the pieces crashed, as the Tectonic plates shifted and produced today’s mountains. Today we see the continents which are the cores, formed out of pieces from the first supercontinent. Then if we look closer, we can find at the shore edges, where the sides were filled in by mud and sand that the Flood stripped from the earth’s surface.

Reconstructing Noah’s world before the Flood is not easy, but we do have a reasonable picture form the clues of what happened at the catastrophic events of the Flood. Hot molten rock blasted the underside of the earth’s crust and it was ripped apart, and steam and molten rock shot out. It must have been a unbelievable scene, with exploding forces as we see when extremely hot lava hits water. Tsunamis from the shifting plates, pushing layers of rock and sand over the continents as we can see a places all over the earth like the Grand Canyon. Animals rushing for the high ground being bunched together and making tracks in the wet mud as they ran for their livers. With the water rising higher and higher till it covered the whole earth, and only those in the ark being spared. We have forever lost the world where Noah lived, it was ripped apart and wiped away by the global Flood catastrophe. .

In Patriarch and Prophets we find the following:

"In the days of Noah a double curse was resting upon the earth in consequence of Adam's transgression and of the murder committed by Cain. Yet this had not greatly changed the face of nature. There were evident tokens of decay, but the earth was still rich and beautiful in the gifts of God's providence. The hills were crowned with majestic trees supporting the fruit-laden branches of the vine. The vast, gardenlike plains were clothed with verdure, and sweet with the fragrance of a thousand flowers. The fruits of the earth were in great variety, and almost without limit. The trees far surpassed in size, beauty, and perfect proportion any now to be found; their wood was of fine grain and hard substance, closely resembling stone, and hardly less enduring. Gold, silver, and precious stones existed in abundance. {PP 90.1}

The human race yet retained much of its early vigor. But a few generations had passed since Adam had access to the tree which was to prolong life; and man's existence was still measured by centuries. Had that long-lived people, with their rare powers to plan and execute, devoted themselves to the service of God, they would have made their Creator's name a praise in the earth, and would have answered the purpose for which He gave them life. But they failed to do this. There were many giants, men of great stature and strength, renowned for wisdom, skillful in devising the most cunning and wonderful works; but their guilt in giving loose rein to iniquity was in proportion to their skill and mental ability. {PP 90.2}

God bestowed upon these antediluvians many and rich gifts; but they used His bounties to glorify themselves, and turned them into a curse by fixing their affections upon the gifts instead of the Giver. They employed the gold and silver, the precious stones and the choice wood, in the construction of habitations for themselves, and endeavored to excel one another in beautifying their dwellings with the most skillful workmanship. They sought only to gratify the desires of their own proud hearts, and reveled in scenes of pleasure and wickedness. Not desiring to retain God in their knowledge, they soon came to deny His existence. They adored nature in place of the God of nature. They glorified human genius, worshiped the works of their own hands, and taught their children to bow down to graven images. {PP 90.3}

And this part is very interesting especially about Methuselah:

"The world was in its infancy; yet iniquity had become so deep and widespread that God could no longer bear with it; and He said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth.” He declared that His Spirit should not always strive with the guilty race. If they did not cease to pollute with their sins the world and its rich treasures, He would blot them from His creation, and would destroy the things with which He had delighted to bless them; He would sweep away the beasts of the field, and the vegetation which furnished such an abundant supply of food, and would transform the fair earth into one vast scene of desolation and ruin. {PP 92.1}

Amid the prevailing corruption, Methuselah, Noah, and many others labored to keep alive the knowledge of the true God and to stay the tide of moral evil. A hundred and twenty years before the Flood, the Lord by a holy angel declared to Noah His purpose, and directed him to build an ark. While building the ark he was to preach that God would bring a flood of water upon the earth to destroy the wicked. Those who would believe the message, and would prepare for that event by repentance and reformation, should find pardon and be saved. Enoch had repeated to his children what God had shown him in regard to the Flood, and Methuselah and his sons, who lived to hear the preaching of Noah, assisted in building the ark. {PP 92.2}

God gave Noah the exact dimensions of the ark and explicit directions in regard to its construction in every particular. Human wisdom could not have devised a structure of so great strength and durability. God was the designer, and Noah the master builder. It was constructed like the hull of a ship, that it might float upon the water, but in some respects it more nearly resembled a house. It was three stories high, with but one door, which was in the side. The light was admitted at the top, and the different apartments were so arranged that all were lighted. The material employed in the construction of the ark was the cypress, or gopher wood, which would be untouched by decay for hundreds of years. The building of this immense structure was a slow and laborious process. On account of the great size of the trees and the nature of the wood, much more labor was required then than now to prepare timber, even with the greater strength which men then possessed. All that man could do was done to render the work perfect, yet the ark could not of itself have withstood the storm which was to come upon the earth. God alone could preserve His servants upon the tempestuous waters. {PP 92.3}"

Then look at the description of the violence of the Flood:

But upon the eighth day dark clouds overspread the heavens. There followed the muttering of thunder and the flash of lightning. Soon large drops of rain began to fall. The world had never witnessed anything like this, and the hearts of men were struck with fear. All were secretly inquiring, “Can it be that Noah was in the right, and that the world is doomed to destruction?” Darker and darker grew the heavens, and faster came the falling rain. The beasts were roaming about in the wildest terror, and their discordant cries seemed to moan out their own destiny and the fate of man. Then “the fountains of the great deep” were “broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.” Water appeared to come from the clouds in mighty cataracts. Rivers broke away from their boundaries, and overflowed the valleys. Jets of water burst from the earth with indescribable force, throwing massive rocks hundreds of feet into the air, and these, in falling, buried themselves deep in the ground. {PP 99.1}

The people first beheld the destruction of the works of their own hands. Their splendid buildings, and the beautiful gardens and groves where they had placed their idols, were destroyed by lightning from heaven, and the ruins were scattered far and wide. The altars on which human sacrifices had been offered were torn down, and the worshipers were made to tremble at the power of the living God, and to know that it was their corruption and idolatry which had called down their destruction. {PP 99.2}

As the violence of the storm increased, trees, buildings, rocks, and earth were hurled in every direction. The terror of man and beast was beyond description. Above the roar of the tempest was heard the wailing of a people that had despised the authority of God. Satan himself, who was compelled to remain in the midst of the warring elements, feared for his own existence. He had delighted to control so powerful a race, and desired them to live to practice their abominations and continue their rebellion against the Ruler of heaven. He now uttered imprecations against God, charging Him with injustice and cruelty. Many of the people, like Satan, blasphemed God, and had they been able, they would have torn Him from the throne of power. Others were frantic with fear, stretching their hands toward the ark and pleading for admittance. But their entreaties were in vain. Conscience was at last aroused to know that there is a God who ruleth in the heavens. They called upon Him earnestly, but His ear was not open to their cry. In that terrible hour they saw that the transgression of God's law had caused their ruin. Yet while, through fear of punishment, they acknowledged their sin, they felt no true contrition, no abhorrence of evil. They would have returned to their defiance of Heaven, had the judgment been removed. So when God's judgments shall fall upon the earth before its deluge by fire, the impenitent will know just where and what their sin is—the despising of His holy law. Yet they will have no more true repentance than did the old-world sinners. {PP 99.3}

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Now here is something very interesting, first lets describe Potassium-argon dating, also abbreviated K–Ar dating. It is a radiometric dating method used in geochronology and archaeology. It is based on measurement of the product of the radioactive decay of an isotope of potassium (K) into argon (Ar). Potassium is a common element found in many materials, such as micas, clay minerals, tephra, and evaporites. In these materials, the decay product 40 Ar is able to escape the liquid (molten) rock, but starts to accumulate when the rock solidifies (recrystallizes). The amount of argon sublimation that occurs is a function of the purity of the sample, the composition of the mother material, and a number of other factors. These factors introduce error limits on the upper and lower bounds of dating, so that final determination of age is reliant on the environmental factors during formation, melting, and exposure to decreased pressure and/or open-air.

Now look at this....
"How do you date a New Zealand volcano?
by Robert Doolan

Among impressive volcanic scenery in northern New Zealand lies the city of Auckland. The district is known for its volcanic cones. In fact, there are more than 50 recognized small volcanoes in the city and surrounding areas. But the largest volcano by far in Auckland is also the youngest. It is called Rangitoto. How young is this youngest volcano? Now your problem starts. Rangitoto is generally regarded as young for several reasons. Evidence based on botany and geomorphology, and a hint from Maori legend that the name can mean ‘red sky’, contribute to a common acceptance that Rangitoto is youthful. Some of the lavas (scoria) have no vegetation, and seem to be no more than a few hundred years old.

Conflicting dates

In the late 1960s, scientists from the Australian National University in Canberra dated numerous volcanoes in Auckland using the potassium-argon method.1 Ten samples from both vegetated and unvegetated lava on Rangitoto were dated. Results seemed to show that Rangitoto was not a few hundred years old as it appeared to be. Ages from the 10 samples ranged from 146,000 years up to almost half a million years! So how old is Rangitoto? A couple of hundred years? Or half a million? The scientists took a sample of wood from beneath some Rangitoto lava and dated it by the carbon- 14 method.2 The wood gave an age of only 225 years (plus or minus 110 years)—which potentially puts it in the lifetime of George Washington and German composer Johann Sebastian Bach. This is about the age all evidence points to except potassium-argon dating. If lava which is little more than 200 years old can be wrongly dated at up to 465,000 years by the potassium-argon method, could potassium-argon dating always be wrong?

Wrong every time

The scientists who did the Rangitoto tests dated 16 volcanoes in all. Eleven of these were able to be compared with carbon-14 dates. In every case the potassium-argon dates were clearly wrong to a huge extent. Similar conflict was found by researchers in Hawaii. A lava flow which is known to have taken place in 1800-1801 (less than 200 years ago) was dated by potassium-argon as being 2,960 million years old.3 If the real dates were not fairly well established by other means, who could have proved that the potassium-argon dates were so wrong? So how do you date a volcano? The lesson seems to be that how ever you date it, don't count on the potassium-argon method...."https://creation.com/how-do-you-date-a-new-zealand-volcano

Very timely thread. Thanks Rick for sharing this.

Regarding carbon vs. K-Ar dating I remember reading that carbon's accuracy is good for the recent past but it is in the same class as K-Ar for the distant past.

Mainstream science agrees with the one continent theory and the bible gives some support to it as well. There is one competing or complementary theory which is that in the past the majority or about 6/7ths of the earth was land and that most of the water was below ground in vast oceans and aquifers. There is some Biblical support for that as well. It says the fountains of the deep were broken up.

But your main point that there were powerful forces at work during the flood - so powerful that they rapidly changed the entire ecosystem and face of the earth is so true and evident. And these same forces will be at work more and more at the end in mega quakes and mega eruptions. The first, second and four trumpets of Revelation 8 are depictions of these things imo. Notice that they are introduced in verse 5 with a major earthquake.

In 1815 Mount Tamboro, a volcano in Indonesia erupted. Wikipedia says:



Personally I think we should anticipate major geological and geopolitical events in the coming months and be prepared spiritually and physically. Soon men's hearts will be failing them for fear of what is coming on the earth.

That is incredible, because when the plates crashed into each other they created volcanoes. There were so many happening at the same time that it cause, yes you guessed it, a cool down which scientist mistook for a "ice age". Now the clues start to come together...

What we call plates today could be pieces of the outer land mantel that encapsulated the globe like a womb and which was supported underneath by a global network of aquifers. The mantel may have been ruptured at the flood, possibly by an asteroid or asteroid cluster and the fountains of the deep violently opened and the mantel torn into the current tectonic plates. The slow movement of these plate fragments results in earthquakes and volcanoes which have been part of our legacy since the flood. Ellen White also tells us that the vegetation buried at the flood now coal and oil, when it ignites and comes in contact with these fissures at the edges of the plates and with lime produce volcanoes and earthquakes.

Her explanation is the best available in explaining why violent earthquakes and volcanoes occur even in the center of a tectonic plate, far from its edges.

Speaking of aquifers, take a look at this chapter...

Psalm 104 King James Version (KJV)

"1 Bless the Lord, O my soul. O Lord my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty.

2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:

3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind:

4 Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:

5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains.

7 At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away.

8 They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them.

9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth."

Notice "to cover the earth"....interesting.

While evolutionists say caves are formed through water trickling billion of years, I find caves an odd thing. Underground channels broken apart by the flood?

Here is what I found in my search on the subject in SOP.

"Powerful Animals Now Extinct Existed Before the Flood—I was shown that very large, powerful animals existed before the flood which do not now exist.—Spiritual Gifts 3:92. (The Spirit of Prophecy 1:87.) {EGWSRGES 43.1}

Vegetation Before the Flood—Before the flood there were immense forests. The trees were many times larger than any trees which we now see. They were of great durability.—Spiritual Gifts 3:79. (The Spirit of Prophecy 1:81-82.) {EGWSRGES 43.2}

Antediluvian Flora and Landscapes—The hills, mountains, and very beautiful plains were adorned with plants and flowers, and tall, majestic trees of every description, which were many times larger and much more beautiful than trees now are.—Spiritual Gifts 3:33. (The Spirit of Prophecy 1:24.) {EGWSRGES 43.3}

Trees Now Extinct Existed Before the Flood—The heights were crowned with trees more majestic than any that now exist.—Patriarchs and Prophets, 44. {EGWSRGES 43.4}

The Quality of Antediluvian Wood; Antediluvian Giants—The trees far surpassed in size, beauty, and perfect proportion, any now to be found; their wood was of fine grain and hard substance, closely resembling stone, and hardly less enduring....There were many giants, men of great stature and strength, renowned for wisdom, skillful in devising the most cunning and wonderful works.—Patriarchs and Prophets, 90. {EGWSRGES 43.5}

Fossils and Artifacts from Antediluvian Times—Bones of men and animals are found in the earth, in mountains and in valleys, showing that much larger men and beasts once lived upon the earth. I was shown that very large, powerful animals existed before the flood which do not now exist. Instruments of warfare are sometimes found; also petrified wood. Because the bones of human beings and of animals found in the earth are much larger than those of men and animals now living, or that have existed for many generations past, some conclude that the world is older than we have any scriptural record of, and was populated long before the record of creation by a race of beings vastly superior in size to men now upon the earth.—Spiritual Gifts 3:92-93. (The Spirit of Prophecy 1:87-88.) {EGWSRGES 43.6}

Antediluvian Men and Animals Buried by the Flood—God so ordered that men, beasts, and trees, many times larger than those now upon the earth, and other things, should be buried in the earth at the time of the flood, and there be preserved to evidence to man that the inhabitants of the old world perished by a flood. God designed that the discovery of these things in the earth should establish the faith of men in inspired history.—Spiritual Gifts 3:95. (The Spirit of Prophecy 1:90.) {EGWSRGES 43.7}

Fossils and Artifacts Buried by the Flood—Bones of men and animals, as well as instruments of warfare, petrified trees, et cetera, much larger than any that now exist, or that have existed for thousands of years, have been discovered, and from this it is inferred that the earth was populated long before the time brought to view in the record of creation, and by a race of beings vastly superior in size to any men now living.—Patriarchs and Prophets, 112. {EGWSRGES 44.1}

Explanation for Fossils Found in the Earth—It is true that remains found in the earth testify to the existence of men, animals, and plants much larger than any now known. These are regarded as proving the existence of vegetable and animal life prior to the time of the Mosaic record. But concerning these things Bible history furnished ample explanation. Before the flood, the development of vegetable and animal life was immeasurably superior to that which has since been known. At the flood the surface of the earth was broken up, marked changes took place, and in the re-formation of the earth’s crust were preserved many evidences of the life previously existing.—Education, 129. {EGWSRGES 44.2}

Antediluvian Arts Buried by Waters of the Flood—The worldly churches cannot read a “Thus saith the Lord,” in regard to the seventh-day Sabbath; and why?—because they are wise in their own conceits; because they are following the example of men who were only one step from the Eden of God, and who, because of their mental and moral capabilities, began to work out their human inventions, and worship the things their hands had made, supposing that they were improving upon God’s plans and devices. In this they worshipped and extolled themselves. [Genesis 6:5-8, 11-13, 17, 18 quoted.] {EGWSRGES 44.3}

There perished in the flood greater inventions of art and human skill than the world knows of today. The arts destroyed were more than the boasted arts of today. The great gifts with which God had endowed man were perverted. There was gold and silver in abundance, and men were constantly seeking to exceed their fellow men in devices. The result was that violence was upon the earth. The Lord was forgotten. This long-lived race were constantly devising how they might contend with the universe of heaven and gain possession of Eden. {EGWSRGES 44.4}

Interesting. I had not noticed that before.

That was a quote I had never seen before. Wow. Thank you, Rick, for these awesome quotes! Imagine--the antediluvians trying to gain possession of Eden through their inventions and devisings!

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

CERN (from the French title - Council European for Research Nuclear) which operates the world's largest nuclear particle accelerator originally mainly focused its research on nuclear science. They still do ostensibly but the intention in recent years has shifted to penetrating the secrets of the universe, identifying the matter/energy that appears to be driving the universe and ultimately tap into the underlying universal forces that control time, space and matter and to use these for human ends. It is not unlike the antediluvian quest to regain access to the tree of life.

CERN also has the distinction of being the birthplace of the World Wide Web or simply, the Web. It is almost hard to believe that the Web was born only 28 years ago in 1991. Not to be confused with the Internet, the Web is the system and standards for sharing information whereas the Internet is the infrastructure of global networks that the Web runs on.

That there be one of those things that one has to take with a big bag of salt. The Bible does not portray such a desire among the antediluvians. In fact, quite the opposite:

• When Cain killed Abel and God confronted him, "[he] went out from the Lord’s presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden." Gen. 4:16. He turned his back, left and became the father of the daughters of men.
   
• After Abel had been murdered, Seth was born in place of him; and then, as it is written, "people began to call on the name of the Lord." v. 26 He became the father of the sons of God.

The desire in humanity was NOT to return to Eden or to try to conquer the place or to besiege and seize it. We know this because of the direction in which the affection of the antediluvians tended. "Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose." Gen. 6:1-2

The tendency was obviously AWAY from God, from all that He represented, including the Garden of Eden. It is easy to see the same attitude and worldview in modern times. No one leaves the Church in such disillusion and with such resentment as to foster a desire for it. The entire premise of the promise of the serpent was that humanity neither needed God nor anything that He had to offer. "You will not surely die," the serpent said. "For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.... Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown." Gen. 3:4-5; Gen. 6:4b The only person that had any desire for Church (aka the Garden of Eden) was Noah. "Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.... But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord." Gen. 6:4-8

Look at Europe today for an example of this. Europeans have become so secular that the previously ornate and magnificent golden ecclesiastical edifices have been left to rot or turned into museums for works of art and relics of a bygone era that evoke nothing but empty nostalgia. But in the midst of the storm-tossed sea of humanity over there, a few still cling to the plank that is God, holding on for dear life and to all that He has promised.

Do you remember after Noah and his family were saved what they did? They abandoned the ark of God, completely turned their backs against it and went off to build their own tower of salvation, except for the seed of Shem. There's nothing new under the sun and what was before, is before our very eyes. And this is how we know the truth with keen discernment.

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James,

Perhaps you forget that the Garden of Eden was a lovely, attractive place, likely the best real estate in the area, and apparently defended by a small heavenly guard--just an angel at each entrance. Furthermore, if you want the elixir of eternal life, it is there to be had from the Tree of Life in the garden. Imagine--if you could just take control of it, and if you had a monopoly on it, you could soon own virtually the entire planet.

And these were men who lived centuries-long lives in which to scheme up their devices.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Did you notice the dearth of scriptural evidence FOR THE DESIRE TO CONQUER in your post? To believe smooth sounding words because it sounds reasonable, in spite of reality to the contrary, is to walk right into the trap set by the serpent.

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Very fascinating. Wonder if that is why the planet exploded where the astroid belt now exists?

The scriptures are easy to find, and I assumed you would be aware of them. If in making this assumption I erred, please pardon me.

First, the scriptures are clear that God marched man out of the Garden after sin specifically to remove the possibility of eating from the Tree of Life and living forever.



That passage also speaks of the angels whom God placed to guard the approach to the tree of life.

Now, regarding the desire to conquer, that should be well enough understood. After all, you have (1) a group of people who can no longer live forever without the fruit of that tree; (2) they have, as is innate, a strong desire to live; and (3) they have no regard for God, having chosen to defy God's commandments and live according to their own pleasures.

In support of the first of those points is the text in Genesis I posted above. In support of the second point, we find the Bible's words saying the following:



(Though it seems, again, something that should be readily understood by all that people would desire life and not death.)

And for that third point, I will return to the Genesis record:



Obviously, at this point, it can be easily concluded that man's desires were not God's desires. Man was so wicked that "every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." It cannot get worse than this.

So, not only were my words reasonable sounding, they had sound basis in Biblical fact.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

I don't think the implication was that they were wishing to be closer to God. Do you?

We may see this all happen again, but this time it wont be a flood of water, but of earthquake and volcanoes..

This is brilliant! I never thought about it before. It makes perfect sense.

It also makes perfect sense to me.

And we are seeing the same desire of evil today....

This is very good explanation of Noah's Flood and the resulting evidence across the world basically refuting Evolution.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRo...qi-aQQTBmjQyX1xUhjZ-vegiWRhqNULzdo6w7bSQ

Oh, Thank you!!! I have just looked at it for a few minutes, and I think it's going to be fantastic!! The Flood is my favorite OT Bible story (well, Table of nations, too)
I'm going to save this movie for tomorrow.

This is one that I also intend to watch.

Just a few observations:

1) They appear to have considerably underestimated the size of the ark. I was just doing some calculations on that recently. Noah was instructed to make the ark per cubit dimensions:



So...three hundred cubits long, fifty cubits wide, and 30 cubits high.

A cubit is the length of a man's forearm from fingertip to elbow. By today's cubit, the video might come close--but they fail to take into consideration the fact that the antediluvians were much taller, and larger proportioned, than we are today.



If men now living are at least six feet tall (and a good case could be made for more than this), then Adam must have been at least 12 feet tall. It is far more likely that he was 14-18 feet tall--a giant compared to us. If he were "well proportioned," as she says, then his forearm would have been over twice as long as that of men now living as well. So, if a tall man's cubit today is around 20 inches in length, Noah's cubit may well have exceeded 40 inches. But let's suppose it were only 36 inches--three feet, as this makes the math a bit easier.

300 cubits = 300 yards @ 3 feet/cubit ==> 900 feet.

Noah's ark easily surpassed the Titanic in size. It may well have exceeded 1000 feet in length. And what were the other dimensions?

Assuming 900 feet in length, we would have 150 feet width, and 90 feet in height.

At 1000 feet in length we'd have about 167 feet wide and 100 feet tall. With three stories, that's over 30 feet per story, accommodating the larger animals fairly well.

As a biologist, I was also imagining the need for a waste hold. Where would Noah's sons have put the muckings? Did dung beetles take care of it? Fly maggots? Was it all a natural ecosystem?

Interesting things to ponder there.

And then there's the matter of the door on the side of the ark. Was it just so tightly built that the pitch glued it shut? Or was there actually an internal latch of some sort, like a slot in the door into which a key-latch dropped in, one which was internal to the wall and the occupants could not access? I suppose that since the major forces exerted on the door would have been external ones, they would be unable to move it if it needed to swing outwardly on its hinges. Perhaps it was too heavy for Noah and his sons to open--but couldn't they have put an elephant (or both of the elephants) to the task? So if it could not be simply pushed open, what latched it shut?

The scholarship is flawed with respect to Biblical accuracy as well. Consider this screenshot from the video, then compare to actual verses that defy it.



Texts using Hebrew "yowm" to mean "year" (not "day") [bolded words from "yowm" (H3117)]:

Exodus 13:10 Thou shalt therefore keep this ordinance in his season from year to year.
Numbers 9:22 Or whether it were two days, or a month, or a year, that the cloud tarried upon the tabernacle, remaining thereon, the children of Israel abode in their tents, and journeyed not: but when it was taken up, they journeyed.
Judges 17:10 And Micah said unto him, Dwell with me, and be unto me a father and a priest, and I will give thee ten shekels of silver by the year, and a suit of apparel, and thy victuals. So the Levite went in.
Judges 21:19 Then they said, Behold, there is a feast of the LORD in Shiloh yearly in a place which is on the north side of Bethel, on the east side of the highway that goeth up from Bethel to Shechem, and on the south of Lebonah.
1 Samuel 1:3 And this man went up out of his city yearly to worship and to sacrifice unto the LORD of hosts in Shiloh. And the two sons of Eli, Hophni and Phinehas, the priests of the LORD, were there.
1 Samuel 1:21 And the man Elkanah, and all his house, went up to offer unto the LORD the yearly sacrifice, and his vow.
1 Samuel 2:19 Moreover his mother made him a little coat, and brought it to him from year to year, when she came up with her husband to offer the yearly sacrifice.

...and there are more, but this should suffice to demonstrate the truth here.

But, perhaps we should wait for heaven for these answers, and work to the best of our ability while probation lasts with more important things.

If we believe the God of the Bible exists--what are we doing to help others find their refuge in Him before the next destruction comes?

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

I just watched and listened to a live presentation in our church yesterday by one of our pastors in our conference and heard that there was more than one type of cubit measurements with one that they think was used back then being called "a royal cubit" which has a longer measurement than the one used today.

As I video-taped this presentation, but haven't yet uploaded it to our YouTube channel, I will plan to do that today and review the section that was presented on the cubit measurements.

What GC posted here is most interesting and also makes a lot of sense. In fact, I will share his post with that pastor.

Should be interesting to go over..