What you say about the papacy is true EXCEPT - show that the king of the north is the Papacy from inspired writings, you can't, you are assuming that. The king of the north is the power that holds the territory in the North with respect to Israel, and who would that currently be? Will the current KoTN fulfill Daniel 11:40-45? He comes to his end, and then Michael (not Pence) stands up, and WHO is then left?

James White:
"In exposition of unfulfilled prophecy, where the history is not written, the student should put forth his propositions with not too much positiveness, lest he find himself straying in the field of fancy.
 
"There are those who think more of future truth than of present truth. They see but little light in the path in which they walk, but think they see great light ahead of them.
 
"Positions taken upon the Eastern question are based upon prophecies which have not yet met their fulfillment. Here we should tread lightly, and take positions carefully, lest we be found removing the landmarks fully established in the advent movement. It may be said that there is a general agreement upon this subject, and that all eyes are turned toward the war now in progress between Turkey and Russia as the fulfillment of that portion of prophecy which will give great confirmation of faith in the soon loud cry and close of our message. But what will be the result of this positiveness in unfulfilled prophecies should things not come out as very confidently expected, is an anxious question". {James White, RH Nov. 29, 1877}

Da 11:6 And in the end of years [end of the 2300 years after 1844] they shall join themselves together [King of the North Britain & King of the South France in the Crimean War]; for the king’s daughter of the south [papacy having been subjugated by France in 1798] shall come to the king of the north to make an agreement [to prevent Italian unification and loss of Papal States]: but she shall not retain the power of the arm; neither shall he stand, nor his arm: but she shall be given up, and they that brought her, and he that begat her, and he that strengthened her in these times.

Da 11:7 But out of a branch of her roots [papacy had 2 roots Church state] shall one [Mussolini] stand up in his estate, which shall come with an army, and shall enter into the fortress annexation of part of Kenya] of the king of the north [Great Britain], and shall deal against them, and shall prevail [Britain gave the territory to Italy rather than fight]: [During WWII the king of the North transitioned from Britain to FDR/USA]

Da 11:8 And shall also carry captives into Egypt their gods, with their princes, and with their precious vessels of silver and of gold; and he [Mussolini] shall continue more years than the king of the north [FDR].

Da 11:11 And the king of the south [returned to Egypt] shall be moved with choler, and shall come forth and fight with him [USA via our ally ISRAEL] , even with the king of the north: and he [Egypt] shall set forth a great multitude; but the multitude shall be given into his hand.

Da 11:13 For the king of the north shall return, and shall set forth a multitude greater than the former, and shall certainly come after certain years with a great army and with much riches.

Da 11:15 So the king of the north [USA] shall come, and cast up a mount, and take the most fenced cities: and the arms of the south [moved from Egypt to Iraq] shall not withstand, neither his chosen people, neither shall there be any strength to withstand.

Da 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south [moved from Iraq to Iran]push at him: and the king of the north [USA] shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

That is where we differ --
I do not accept a futuristic interpretation of the prophecies.
Daniel 11 follows history from Daniel's time to the end.
Each cycle in Daniel 2,7,8,and 11 cover all of history from Daniel's time to Christ setting up His kingdom.

Thus
Daniel 11:1-2 is about Media Persia
Daniel 11:3-4 is about Grecia taking over under Alexander and breaking into four parts
Daniel 11:5-14 is about the two major Grecian parts fighting with Palestine in the middle.
Daniel 11:15 introduces Rome "robbers of my People"
Daniel 11:15-19 Rome prior to the Emperor status
Daniel 11:20-22 Rome's first Emperor Caesar Augustus, and following emperors, the beginning of Christianity, the fall of Jerusalem, death of Christ and persecution of Christians.
Daniel 11:23-24 Christianity unites with Rome during Constantine's reign. Grooming of the papacy.
Daniel 11:25-30 Battles centering on the political establishment, crusades etc. of the papacy.
Daniel 11:30 -39 Religious tyranny and professions of the papacy.
Daniel 11:40-45 The resurrected papal power gathering all Christianity again under it's "head" in the last desperate attempt to rule the world.
But he will come to his end, loose his supporters when Christ stands up for His people.

The papacy makes it's strongest statement yet that all Christians MUST unite

Christian Unity is not an Option, says pope Francis

And remember, just a few years ago the Vatican made a public statement that the Catholic church is NOT a "sister church" but the "mother church". And the papacy still maintains primacy over religion.

Don't be blind ==
UNDER ONE HEAD -- the papacy--


That is not speculative playing with prophecy, that is revealed by inspired writings.


True -- protestants in the USA, once they have fully joined themselves to the papacy, will supply the political power that will enforce the papal mandates, but the HEAD is the papacy.
Just like the Franks were the political power to enforce papal mandates in the middle ages, but the papacy was the HEAD.

History will be repeated
(that does not mean reinterpret the prophecies, but learn from history)

Instead of staying true to the Laodicean attitude that refuses to consider anything (because it is so self confident that nobody can tell it anything...not even Jesus): Try honestly looking at the facts prayerfully.

In Revelation 10 There are statement of special significance relation to the end of the 2300 years, i.e., at the time of the Great Advent Disappointment:

1) Time will be no longer

2) prophesy again


In one sense it is saying that the 2300 year time limitation on Daniel 11:1-12:1 has ended (Time will be no longer). And the command to prophesy again is a direct command to Daniel {11} to prophesy again.

When Jesus stood to confess His people before His Father and His angels, Daniel 11:1-12:1 was fulfilled from the 3 kings in Persia that issued their decrees to rebuild through the commencement of the Investigative Judgment).

In response to the command to prophesy again...after 1844, the prophecy in Daniel 11 repeats Beginning at verse 6 when The King of the North, Great Britain, joins with France, the king of the south, in the Crimean War. France became KOS when it exercised authority over Egypt in 1799. Great Britain became KON in 1840 when it compelled Ottoman Empire to accept its protection.

The papacy is the DAUGHTER OF THE KING OF THE SOUTH BECAUSE OF 1798. And I posted the major verses earlier in this thread to show how the prophecy that was repeated was fulfilled.

Prior to 1844, William Miller recognized that the Kings of the North and South had become European powers. Thus, the Kings of the North and South had become Great Britain and France.

Thanks Dedication for sharing that link. It is a must read.

Henry I agree with everything you said regarding future applications. We differ on how they apply. I keep coming back to the example of James White in advising caution when it comes to unfulfilled prophecy. Futurists often get caught up in speculation regarding specific events and in making assertions about things that are uncertain. In doing this they cause disunity and detract from the overall prophetic message which is a revelation of Jesus Christ. Our focus has to stay on the three messages that reveal Christ in his sanctuary making the final atonement for the Israel of God. In vision Ellen White was shown the mighty angel of Revelation 18 pointing directly to Christ and his ministry in the sanctuary as he gave the loud cry. I'll post more on this final atonement of the remnant in a new topic later.

Interesting!

What do you make of the theme in 2019, "Justice, and only justice, you shall pursue ..." inspired by Deuteronomy 16:18-20.

Could this be referring to the social justice movement being employed to undermine national sovereignty by shifting global populations?

"Judges and officers shalt thou make thee in all thy gates, which the LORD thy God giveth thee, throughout thy tribes: and they shall judge the people with just judgment."
Deuteronomy 16:18