Well then, you should then know of what I was speaking. Good.

looks like somebody took a vacation (posting pause)

I believe Nadi is admitting he is in violation of having multiple registrations.

Of course you are correct. Students of the Bible would readily understand that. The Bible verse directly and distinctly says God killed Saul. However the Bible, when one sets out to understand it, says differently than what one may attempt to make it say. The comment was to Green, and if you knew the background of past conversations, you would see it hit on two (or more) issues dealing with him.

Yeah, that would be General Forum Rule #12.
However, it is hardly as nefarious as one would hope. Truth is that I get frustrated by the un-Christian atmosphere and stupidity and arrogance of some of the posters here and take a break from participation. After I calm down I return to the forum, but by that time I have forgotten my username and password, so I make a new one.

No big deal.

Especially in light of the fact that General Rule #7, and Conduct Rules #2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 are violated on a regular basis, often by the moderators themselves, and violent and abusive posters are allowed to carry on much longer than they should. JAK and James Son of Thunder come to mind, for example.

So no one really gives a rat's _ _ _ about rules or Christian conduct, which is why I am trying again, as "Nadi" (which, by the way ProdigalOne, was taken from the Spanish for "nobody" or "nothing") and exhorting all participants (including Nadi) to examine their posts and attitudes to ensure a safe and Christian environment for all posters.

It is up to us, as ADULT, CHRISTIAN posters, to create the environment that we want and that reflects our Christian values, since Daryl and his moderators cannot or will not enforce the rules of conduct.

I have contacted several of the posters who used to post here to see if they could return and help build a positive environment. Everyone who responded said the same thing: "Maritime is too dark and negative for me."

I'm sure I'll get flamed for this post, and everyone will get their hackles up and be all offended and defensive, but you know I'm right on both points: 1-The forum is dark and un-Christian and 2-it is up to the participants to change that.

Does the Bible contradict itself? Is there a reason for this "paradox" that we are seeing? Or, would you call it something else? I agree, the text says that. But when it says that, what does it mean?

Every forum has its own unique atmosphere. I dont worry about all this stuff. I know its just online and I cant possible know a lot about most members. Relax, talk about Jesus. He is The Light. (of the world).

This apostasy topic has gotten off-track. May I ask what your take is on the "most startling nature" phrase? And how does the church member who wants to lift up Jesus respond?

A church with a woman prophet at its inception, won't let women in leadership roles is of a "most startling nature"

Women are leaders in their own homes, equal to men in every way.

The desire for money and honour among men however has corrupted the earth. Now if a women is not allowed by a group of self-organized men to be lord over a few, she rebels in her heart and feels devastated and worthless. But for what exactly was she fighting if not for money and honour among men!

Imagine that.

If men decided the greatest potato-eaters would be payed handsomely and given medals, I tell you -- suddenly women would say in their hearts, "God wants me to eat potatoes!" And if the men should say, "See now, we would not eat potatoes anymore; but any man who jumps off a cliff in sacrifice would be remembered forever and their surviving family would be wealthy," as sure as night follows day, women would abandon the humble potato and demand instead and as well to be allowed to cast themselves of the bridge in droves.

Put a premium on child-care and the ship would be set aright.

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Is this still happening now Rick? That is of a very "startling nature." I am reminded of the following two passages which illustrate the point at hand: These two quotes point out the MO for God & for the devil. Makes it plain to see how the counterfeit can be so close to the reality and truth. In the end; all the devil can do is to try and get vicious about it, once he sees that he cannot win by sleight of hand or deception. It seems apparrant that apostasy of a startling nature would be fast, hard, and sudden. Unexpected even.