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Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. [Re: Rick H] #188871
03/23/19 03:30 PM
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JMO, but the Dark Day of May 19, 1780, the meteorite shower of November 13, 1833, and the Lisbon earthquake of 1755 ARE NOT signs of the end. The most recent of these (1833) was 186 years ago.

This whole end-time scenario needs re-interpretation, including the "great papal persecution" which IS NOT "the great tribulation."

No, "signs of the end" means just that: when you see these signs, the end is here, imminent, immediately upon us, within days or weeks, or possibly as much as 3-4 months. Not 186-264 years.


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Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. [Re: Nadi] #188874
03/23/19 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: Nadi
JMO, but the Dark Day of May 19, 1780, the meteorite shower of November 13, 1833, and the Lisbon earthquake of 1755 ARE NOT signs of the end. The most recent of these (1833) was 186 years ago.

This whole end-time scenario needs re-interpretation, including the "great papal persecution" which IS NOT "the great tribulation."

No, "signs of the end" means just that: when you see these signs, the end is here, imminent, immediately upon us, within days or weeks, or possibly as much as 3-4 months. Not 186-264 years.

Paul said when he was a child, he thought like a child; but when he became a man, he put away childish things. It is interesting that after 100 years, SDA still walk around in diapers crying, "Signs of the times! The signs of the times are these ...." quoting Ellen White on 18th century phenomena.

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Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. [Re: James Peterson] #188877
03/24/19 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Nadi
JMO, but the Dark Day of May 19, 1780, the meteorite shower of November 13, 1833, and the Lisbon earthquake of 1755 ARE NOT signs of the end. The most recent of these (1833) was 186 years ago.

This whole end-time scenario needs re-interpretation, including the "great papal persecution" which IS NOT "the great tribulation."

No, "signs of the end" means just that: when you see these signs, the end is here, imminent, immediately upon us, within days or weeks, or possibly as much as 3-4 months. Not 186-264 years.

Paul said when he was a child, he thought like a child; but when he became a man, he put away childish things. It is interesting that after 100 years, SDA still walk around in diapers crying, "Signs of the times! The signs of the times are these ...." quoting Ellen White on 18th century phenomena.

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Actually the most recent sign was the last in the list "the powers of the heavens being shaken" 14 September 2015. But most folks don't have a clue that it even happened.

It is like Elijah meeting God in the desert. He was not in the fire of the earthquake, but the we small voice.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. [Re: His child] #188887
03/24/19 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: His child
Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Nadi
JMO, but the Dark Day of May 19, 1780, the meteorite shower of November 13, 1833, and the Lisbon earthquake of 1755 ARE NOT signs of the end. The most recent of these (1833) was 186 years ago.

This whole end-time scenario needs re-interpretation, including the "great papal persecution" which IS NOT "the great tribulation."

No, "signs of the end" means just that: when you see these signs, the end is here, imminent, immediately upon us, within days or weeks, or possibly as much as 3-4 months. Not 186-264 years.

Paul said when he was a child, he thought like a child; but when he became a man, he put away childish things. It is interesting that after 100 years, SDA still walk around in diapers crying, "Signs of the times! The signs of the times are these ...." quoting Ellen White on 18th century phenomena.

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Actually the most recent sign was the last in the list "the powers of the heavens being shaken" 14 September 2015. But most folks don't have a clue that it even happened.

It is like Elijah meeting God in the desert. He was not in the fire of the earthquake, but the we small voice.



Hmm...

https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/news/ligo20160211

But if you shake the heavens and no one picks up on it, then what....

Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. [Re: Rick H] #188891
03/25/19 11:47 AM
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Then you fabricate a prophecy and claim you are greater than everyone else....

Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. [Re: Rick H] #188904
03/26/19 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted By: Rick H


Hmm...

https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/news/ligo20160211

But if you shake the heavens and no one picks up on it, then what....


But the scientists built LIGO in time to prove that God shook the heavens. Their observatory was functional in time to prove that the word of God is dependable. At the appropriate time the fulfilment of prophecy will be understood by God's people that are watching as Jesus commanded. But those who do not hear the wee small voice will continue to question that which is revealed to their own hurt rather than recognize the importance of the timing of this sign.




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Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. [Re: Rick H] #188914
03/26/19 01:55 PM
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The gravitational waves were detected on September 14, 2015 at 5:51 a.m.

5:5 = 10 Virgins.

Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. [Re: kland] #188915
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Originally Posted By: kland
The gravitational waves were detected on September 14, 2015 at 5:51 a.m.

Not just that, but gravitational waves are a naturally occurring phenomena. We know how they are generated and where they come from. This hardly qualifies as "God shaking the heavens."

Last edited by Nadi; 03/26/19 06:32 PM.

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Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. [Re: Nadi] #188918
03/27/19 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted By: Nadi
Originally Posted By: kland
The gravitational waves were detected on September 14, 2015 at 5:51 a.m.

Not just that, but gravitational waves are a naturally occurring phenomena. We know how they are generated and where they come from. This hardly qualifies as "God shaking the heavens."


The fact is that the collision of gigantic black holes sent gravitational waves throughout the universe and we measured their effect as they shook the earth ever so slightly. For them to move the earth at this great distance, those specific waves must have moved the powers of heaven. The closer a heavenly body is to the source of the reaction the more they would have been "shaken"

As a sign foretold in the word of God, that the powers in Heaven would be shaken... gravitational waves do that very thing and on 14 September 2015 we proved that they did it.

It does not matter if it has happened before, The fact that Jesus said that it would happen and that we can prove that it did happen is sufficient to confirm the validity of the Bible.

An since it is the last sign listed in the series of signs given by Jesus, it should wake the sleeping virgins to their need to be sure that their oil supply is secure.



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Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. [Re: kland] #188919
03/27/19 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
The gravitational waves were detected on September 14, 2015 at 5:51 a.m.

5:5 = 10 Virgins.



Kland,

I almost missed it. God does have a sense of humor. And He has a way of tucking clues in plain sight that should encourage us to dig a little deeper.

Thanks for that insight, it was a pleasant surprise.


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