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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
[Re: Nadi]
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04/06/19 07:37 AM
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and HOW would you prove this "James?" By "this" do you mean: 1. SDA, generally speaking, indeed do not tolerate any skepticism about Ellen White. or 2.the EGW doctrine of an IJ was not Biblical Since you did not respond to my previous post by sharing your denominational affiliation with us, I presume you intend to remain hidden in the shadows with Mr Peterson?
"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
[Re: ProdigalOne]
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04/06/19 04:05 PM
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Nadi, you gave, "the SDA church really does not tolerate questioning The Prophet or The Doctrines" as a reason for anonymity, ... SDA, generally speaking, indeed do not tolerate any skepticism about Ellen White. Desmond Ford tried to show that the EGW doctrine of an IJ was not Biblical and he was excommunicated from the pulpit. /// "Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them." Acts 20: 30 He did not agree with the beliefs of the majority of Adventists. Why would any church employ a preacher who does not agree with its tenets? The logical course is for that person to find a church that he agrees with or start his own group. By the way, what is your church denomination? I will answer you, if you answer me concerning Jesus Christ, "To what denomination of Judaism did He belong: Pharisee, Sadducee, Essene or Zealot?" Mat. 21:24-25 ///
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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
[Re: Rick H]
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04/06/19 07:11 PM
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As it was never Christ's intent that His Church would break off into countless denominations, I would say that Christ belonged to no denomination of Judaism and no denomination of Christianity.
I can also say that there will not be any denominations of any sort after the Second Coming.
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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
[Re: Daryl]
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04/06/19 08:09 PM
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As it was never Christ's intent that His Church would break off into countless denominations, I would say that Christ belonged to no denomination of Judaism and no denomination of Christianity.
I can also say that there will not be any denominations of any sort after the Second Coming. AMEN!!
"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
[Re: James Peterson]
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04/13/19 10:23 PM
04/13/19 10:23 PM
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Nadi, you gave, "the SDA church really does not tolerate questioning The Prophet or The Doctrines" as a reason for anonymity, ... SDA, generally speaking, indeed do not tolerate any skepticism about Ellen White. Desmond Ford tried to show that the EGW doctrine of an IJ was not Biblical and he was excommunicated from the pulpit. /// "Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them." Acts 20: 30 He did not agree with the beliefs of the majority of Adventists. Why would any church employ a preacher who does not agree with its tenets? The logical course is for that person to find a church that he agrees with or start his own group. By the way, what is your church denomination? I will answer you, if you answer me concerning Jesus Christ, "To what denomination of Judaism did He belong: Pharisee, Sadducee, Essene or Zealot?" Mat. 21:24-25 /// What are you so afraid of? A one sided conversation, where you maintain an artificial advantage by hiding, is not the act of a child of the Light, but that of a troll! If you are unable to defend your beliefs, perhaps they are wrong? If you are ashamed of your denomination, perhaps it is time for a change?
"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
[Re: ProdigalOne]
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04/14/19 05:12 AM
04/14/19 05:12 AM
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I will answer you, if you answer me concerning Jesus Christ, "To what denomination of Judaism did He belong: Pharisee, Sadducee, Essene or Zealot?" Mat. 21:24-25 /// What are you so afraid of? A one sided conversation, where you maintain an artificial advantage by hiding, is not the act of a child of the Light, but that of a troll! If you are unable to defend your beliefs, perhaps they are wrong? If you are ashamed of your denomination, perhaps it is time for a change? As it was never Christ's intent that His Church would break off into countless denominations, I would say that Christ belonged to no denomination of Judaism and no denomination of Christianity.
I can also say that there will not be any denominations of any sort after the Second Coming. ///
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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
[Re: Rick H]
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04/16/19 12:18 PM
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Well, some of our members made contact with our old church, and it was not good. They talked with the pastor over at the old church, and even invited him to the VOP series we were having The Appearing with Shawn Boonstra of Christs coming and they were shocked at the response. He told them not to invited them to the series as they 'no longer were giving that message'. I don't know what to say... Here is a typical Saturday at what was our old (newly built) church...take a look. https://www.facebook.com/NaplesSDAChurch/videos/320539048609925/
Last edited by Rick H; 04/16/19 01:42 PM.
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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
[Re: Rick H]
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04/16/19 03:34 PM
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Sooo...
Are you saying this is good... or bad?
"Our vision is often more obstructed by what we think we know than by our lack of knowledge." K. Stendahl
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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
[Re: Rick H]
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04/16/19 11:41 PM
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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
[Re: Rick H]
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04/17/19 08:44 PM
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So then what I understand you to be saying is that this music and this type of worship in an SDA church is OK.
"Our vision is often more obstructed by what we think we know than by our lack of knowledge." K. Stendahl
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