Repeated Prophecy is Fulfilled Again!

God gave His people prophetic time to lead them step-by-step to 1844. Seeing how God led His people in the past, should we expect Him to lead us differently now?

History confirms that the prophecy of Daniel 8:14 repeated itself. This prophecy has been fulfilled multiple times. From the same evidence, i.e., from the same prophecy that God fulfilled the 2300 literal days in 457 BC; God ended this long time (day for a year prophecy) in 1843 and again in 1844. To deny that God fulfilled Daniel 8:14 twice in long time (once in 1843 and again in 1844), is to deny the tarrying time. The beginning date of the tarrying time (1843) and its ending date (1844) confirms: God’s word is true!



Jesus/Michael stood to confess His people before His Father and His angels in heaven (Revelation 3:5) in 1844 at the end of the 2300 years when the Investigative Judgment began. This partially fulfilled Daniel 12:1 (Michael shall stand), only partially, because the Great Time of Trouble did not begin in 1844. When Daniel 12:1 meets its final complete fulfillment, Christ will again stand to declare: It is done, as the final Great Time of Trouble is engulfing the world.





[1] WLF 12.4, ed

Prophetic Time



What expected event? Christ’s Second Advent! What is the spirit of the world that is affecting their moorings?

In the writings of Ellen White, she ALWAYS uses the terms definite time and prophetic time in the context of Christ’s Second Coming. This prophetic time ended in Revelation 10: “The angel standing with one foot on the sea, proclaiming with a most solemn oath that time should be no longer. This time which the angel declares … reaches to the autumn of 1844…in regard to the time of the advent of our Lord…”[3] “Prophetic time…for the coming of the Lord.”[4]

What is the spirit of the world that was overcoming the disappointed ones? The world denies all time prophecy.

The longest prophetic time in the Bible that identifies Christ’s Coming was fulfilled in 1844. If Christ had come, the prophetic time that foretold His Coming would have met its perfect fulfillment. The term prophetic time, as White used it, NEVER means all time prophecies. Prophetic time is time prophecy that gives the definite time of Christ’s Coming. After 1844, there are no messages in the Bible of prophetic time that gives the definite time of Christ’s Coming.





White’s statement: With no time proclamation to intervene between the close of the prophetic periods in 1844 and the time of the Lord’s coming, is being confused with the world’s view that places all time proclamation on the same level. In context, she clearly intended the term time proclamation to mean the definite time of the Lord’s coming. She is saying that no proclamation of the definite time of Christ’s coming is to intervene between the close of the prophetic periods in 1844 and the Lord’s Coming. White NEVER cites prophetic time as meaning all time prophecy. Yet even authorities, who diligently study her writings, have confused her view about no prophetic time with the world’s view about all time prophecy. White’s view of the ending of prophetic time in 1844 cannot be understood correctly without understanding that White used the term prophetic time to mean the definite time of Christ’s Coming; not as the world, as: All time prophecy.

Since White repeatedly dealt with people, who were setting times for Christ’s Coming, she wrote quite a bit of counsel warning of their error. That counsel has been misunderstood and misapplied to all time prophecy.





In context, White is warning: Regarding time setting, there will never again be a message for the people of God that will be based on the definite time either for the outpouring of the Holy Spirit or for the coming of Christ.

While assuring believers that there are no other time prophecies giving the definite time of Christ’s Coming, White focused on true time prophecies that were founded on solid Bible study. But while rebuking time setters, did White teach (as some believe) that ALL time prophecy stopped in 1844?



Likewise, White is not saying that Bible students never will give the correct day and date for the occurrence of unfulfilled prophecy. God has and will continue to send faithful Bible students to rightly divide the word of Truth.



Thus, the times in Revelation are definite, not mystical and unintelligible. God would have us to understand them.

Repeating the Time prophecy in Revelation 13






When the scenes in Revelation 13 repeat, they are not isolated from the 42 months. Hold that thought for a moment. The Bible explains itself about the meaning of this time prophecy of the deadly wound and going into captivity.

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[1] GC88 439.2, ed


[2] 4SP 396.2

The Counterfeit

The rise of the papacy counterfeited Christ’s anointing. This is what happened: The three horns of Daniel 7 were plucked up. Alaric I led the Visigoths’ invasion of the Western Roman Empire. The Arian Heruli invasion followed, under King Odoacer, who deposed Romulus Augustulus, the Western Emperor, in 476 AD. When Odoacer began moving toward the Eastern Roman Empire, its Emperor, Zeno, made the Arian king of the Ostrogoths, Theodoric the Great, the king of Italy. To secure his grasp on Italy, he fought the Heruli and killed King Odoacer. Soon after that (506 AD), the Arian, King Clovis (the Frank) became a Catholic.[1] After he renounced Arianism, only three of the ten tribes that had invaded the Western Roman Empire retained their Arian Christian beliefs: the Visigoths, Vandals, and Ostrogoths.

After Alaric I died. King Clovis of France, attacked Alaric II; thus, beginning the war upon which “the prevalence of the Catholic or the Arian creed in Western Europe depended.”[2] When Alaric II, the king of Spain, died during the war, his illegitimate son, Gesalic, succeeded him as the king of the Visigoths. In the meantime, King Theodoric, who was Alaric II’s father-in-law and grandfather of Alaric’s other son (Prince Amalaric), sent an army from Rome in 508[3] to help the Visigoths defeat the Franks. Theodoric’s army deposed Gesalic, who fled to North Africa to get help from the Vandals to regain his kingdom.

Thus, in 508, Theodoric (an ally of the Eastern Roman Emperor) plucked up the Arian king, Gesalic, to secure the Visigoth throne for his grandson, Prince Amalaric. The 508 victory over King Gesalic begins the 30-year countdown to the rise of the papacy that counterfeited Christ’s 30 years before He was anointed as the Messiah.

On April 7, 529, the Eastern Emperor, Justinian, issued a draft of Codex Justiniani. It began mingling Church and state. “The provisions…influenced the Canon Law of the church since…the church lives under Roman law.”[4]

Shortly thereafter, the king of the Vandals, Hilderic, became a Catholic. When his Arian cousin, Gelimer, deposed him, the Eastern Roman Army invaded North Africa:



King Gelimer was the 2nd horn plucked up by the pope’s allies in the 30 years between 508—538. The king of the Goths was soon to be the third horn to be plucked up in 538.

After Theodoric the Great died, his daughter, Queen Amalasuntha (an ally of Emperor Justinian) merged the Goths into Roman society. The Gothic nobility opposed giving up their culture. Her husband and son died. To keep her throne, she was compelled to appoint a male figurehead, King Theodahad. He seized power and banished her. Meanwhile, Emperor Justinian (Codex Justiniani 534) made the pope, John II (533-535), the head of all the churches.



The title Augustus signified that the Eastern Roman Emperor, Justinian, considered himself to be Pontifex Maximus/High Priest Emperor, the head of church and state. Justinian as ever Augustus, head of church and state, made it clear that the Bishop of Rome/the pope, John II was his subordinate. Justinian clearly intended that the pope: 1) Receive honor, 2) Take charge of all the churches, 3) Extend his influence to the orient, 4) Institute doctrines for the entire church, and 5) To have his authority increased.

After Justinian had put all of the churches under Pope John II and had given him authority as his subordinate, John II died. Agapetus became pope. Queen Amalasuntha was assassinated, and King Theodahad pleaded with Pope Agapetus to go to Constantinople to pacify Justinian.[7] Agapetus died in Constantinople, and Silverius was “made pope through the influence of the King of the Goths.”[8] After Theodahad had meddled with the selection of Pope Silverius, Emperor Justinian reasserted his authority over the Catholic Church in Rome: The court at Constantinople gave Vigilius 700 pounds of gold and sent him to Rome to be pope.

In the meantime, Justinian’s Army had returned to Italy from plucking up King Gelimer, in Africa. King Theodahad was killed. The Ostrogoths made Witigis king. He left Rome to fetch Theodoric’s granddaughter, Matasuntha to be his wife. When he got back to Rome, the Eastern Roman Army was camped outside the city: He attacked it. Pope Silverius subsequently allowed Justinian’s army to enter Rome. General Belisarius then turned on Silverius and installed Vigilius as pope. General Belisarius broke Witigis’ siege of Rome in 538 and captured him. King Witigis apparently died in Constantinople. As Daniel prophesied, three horns were plucked up: Kings Gesalic (Visigoth), Gelimer (Vandal), and Witigis (Ostrogoth). They were the first Germanic tribes of the original ten that accepted Arian Christianity, and the final three that opposed Catholicism.



Then Pope Vigilius (the head of the Roman Catholic Church) was enabled to implement the Eastern Roman Emperor’s plans as set forth in Codex Justiniani.



As much as God would allow, the papacy counterfeited Christ’s life and ministry. As Jesus lived for 30 years before being anointed, the papacy gradually increased in favor with men for 30 years from 508-538. As Jesus had victory over three temptations before beginning His ministry, the papacy’s allies plucked up three Arian kings to enable the pope to be anointed as a subordinate of the state. As Christ’s ministry continued for 3.5 years/1260 days, the papacy reigned 1260 years (with a day being symbolic of a year) from 538 to 1798. Then the papacy received its deadly wound.

As the rise and reign of the papacy counterfeited times and aspects in Christ’s life and ministry, it counterfeited Christ’s deadly wound: Jesus recovered from His death at His resurrection when He came back to life.

Jesus was betrayed by a friend. Likewise, the French had befriended the papacy and had been foremost in fighting for the pope’s supremacy: They betrayed Pope Pius VI. As Jesus was jailed, Pius VI was taken captive. Jesus was taken on Thursday and died Friday. Pope Pius VI was jailed in 1798 and died in 1799. Jesus rested in his tomb on Sabbath. There was not a pope for the balance of 1799: The papacy rested. Jesus rose on Sunday, the first day of the new week. Pope Pius VII was installed in 1800, the first year of the new century. Prophecy was fulfilled: The papacy counterfeited Christ’s deadly wound that was healed!
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[1] Some scholars date Clovis’ baptism 496, 506, or as late as 508


[2] https://openlibrary.org/books/OL23435375M [The Franks, from Their First Appearance in History to the Death of King Pepin, 1857, WC Perry] p. 85 Cf The Merovingian Kingdoms 450-751, Ian Wood, p. 47


[3] http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/siege_arles_507.html


[4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Byzantine_Empire/Selected_article, ed


[5] http://www.fsmitha.com/h3/h01const.htm, ed


[6] Codex Justiniani, lib. 1, tit. 1; translation given by R. F. Littledale, The Petrine Claims, p. 293


[7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Agapetus_I#cite_ref-6


[8] http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15427b.htm, “Pope Vigilius”


[9] Advent Review, and Sabbath Herald. September 21, 1886, Periodical Issue, Seventh-day Adventist Publishing Association Triumph of Christianity 1


[10] YI, September 22, 1903 par. 6

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• What does all of this have to do with the threat of Trump's impeachment?

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Any mistakes along the way, they will impact the conclusion.

It is my sincere prayer that you and all will find the mistakes (if there are any) so that the correct conclusion will be seen for what it is.

Put it in a nutshell.

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Took out the fluff. This is the best I can do right now.

Repeated Time Prophecy is Fulfilled

White acknowledged that the papacy had counterfeited Christ’s 1260 days of ministry during the 1260 years of papal supremacy from 538 to 1798. She stated: “Pius VI…the pope specified in prophecy…received the deadly wound.”[1] White later wrote that the Revelation 13:5, 3, & 10 were to be fulfilled in the future.

Yes, White wrote that the time in Revelation 13:5 and the persecution in 13:11-12 would be repeated! Thus, after she wrote that Revelation 13:5, 3, & 10 had been fulfilled in the past, she also placed 13:5 (42 months), 13:10 (captivity, i.e., the deadly wound), and 13:3 (its healing) in the future:


Does White’s statement above really mean that the 42 months (13:5) will be repeated before Jesus Comes in glory? White did not just say that the events in Revelation 13 would be repeated. She wrote out the passage in longhand including the verse containing the time in the prophecy that is to be repeated when the prophecy has its final fulfillment!

Some allege that White said all time prophecy stopped in 1844. If that were so, White would not clearly place the final fulfillment of the 42 months (Revelation 13:5) in the last days. She made her position clear:

After 1844, White stated that the 42 months WILL SURELY TAKE PLACE in context: This will happen in the future… After 1844. This time prophecy is to have a final complete fulfillment. It has been fulfilled in recent history. (It will be examined in detail as this Bible study continues.)

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[1] 5MR 318.1, ed
[2] 19MR 282.1, ed
[3] William Fagal, Associate Director, Ellen G. White Estate, 12501 Old Columbia Pike, Silver Spring, MD 20904-6600 U.S.A.
[4] 7BC 979.10, ed

Did EGW really say what you allege that she said -- or is this a matter of quotes out of context? Let's see.


5MR 318.1 Is a diary of EGW's tour in France, in the building where Pius VI was held prisoner -- "We looked upon the bust of Pius VI. The marble statue beneath the bust contained the heart of the pope. This is the pope specified in prophecy, which received the deadly wound. He was carried captive to Valence, and we looked upon the tower where he was confined and where he died."

That reference says nothing, whatsoever, of a repeat prophecy or 1260 days.



Your reference comes from an article entitled "MR No. 1403 - Calamities and the Great Controversy"
It says nothing in that quote that anything would be repeated.

" In the last days Satan will appear as an angel of light, with great power and heavenly glory, and claim to be the Lord of the whole earth. He will declare that the Sabbath has been changed from the seventh to the first day of the week; and as lord of the first day of the week he will present this spurious sabbath as a test of loyalty to him. Then will take place the final fulfillment of the Revelator's prophecy. [Revelation 13:4-18, quoted.] {19MR 282.1}

In connection with this scripture, the entire fourteenth chapter of Revelation should be studied much by God's people. Verses nine to eleven bring to view the special message of warning against worshiping the beast and his image, and receiving his mark in the forehead or in the hand. This warning is to be given to the world by those who are mentioned in the twelfth verse as keeping "the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." {19MR 282.2}

We don't believe all of Revelation 13 and 14 has already been fulfilled so why should there be a "repeat".
We are still waiting for the complete fulfilment of those prophecies.
Since some has been fulfilled, it is fitting to say the final fulfilment (everything that will swell into the last final crises) will be fulfilled in the future, it's NOT a repeating prophecy, but a continuing prophecy reaching to the end.
The fully healed beast together with the second beast fulfill their roles in the prophecy. There's no repeating of prophecy, though the healed beast will help repeat the tyranny that was part of its history.
She quoted the whole chapter from verse 4 onward, she did NOT focus on verse 5 etc. she quote THE WHOLE THING (and as pointed out above -- much of Revelation 13 IS still future. -- So it is pure assumption to think she meant the 42 months would repeat, especially after all the many times she wrote that there would be NO MORE MESSAGE based on time.

"The periods here mentioned—“forty and two months,” and “a thousand two hundred and threescore days”—are the same, alike representing the time in which the church of Christ was to suffer oppression from Rome. The 1260 years of papal supremacy began with the establishment of the papacy in A. D. 538, and would therefore terminate in 1798. GC 266

"we would see the truth developing and expanding in lines of which we have little dreamed, but it will never develop in any line that will lead us to imagine that we may know the times and the seasons which the Father hath put in His own power. Again and again have I been warned in regard to time setting. There will never again be a message for the people of God that will be based on time. 1SM188




Not if you take the whole picture into view -- she was NOT talking about the 42 months in that quote --
You translate "final fulfulment" as "repeat fulfulment"

Whereas "final fulfulment" means the prophecy will come to it's final end -- The prophecy shows the build up to the final events which are still future, it's not talking about repeated prophecy. It is linear - not circular.