Speaking of aquifers, take a look at this chapter...

Psalm 104 King James Version (KJV)

"1 Bless the Lord, O my soul. O Lord my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty.

2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:

3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind:

4 Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:

5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains.

7 At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away.

8 They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them.

9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth."

Notice "to cover the earth"....interesting.

While evolutionists say caves are formed through water trickling billion of years, I find caves an odd thing. Underground channels broken apart by the flood?

Here is what I found in my search on the subject in SOP.

"Powerful Animals Now Extinct Existed Before the Flood—I was shown that very large, powerful animals existed before the flood which do not now exist.—Spiritual Gifts 3:92. (The Spirit of Prophecy 1:87.) {EGWSRGES 43.1}

Vegetation Before the Flood—Before the flood there were immense forests. The trees were many times larger than any trees which we now see. They were of great durability.—Spiritual Gifts 3:79. (The Spirit of Prophecy 1:81-82.) {EGWSRGES 43.2}

Antediluvian Flora and Landscapes—The hills, mountains, and very beautiful plains were adorned with plants and flowers, and tall, majestic trees of every description, which were many times larger and much more beautiful than trees now are.—Spiritual Gifts 3:33. (The Spirit of Prophecy 1:24.) {EGWSRGES 43.3}

Trees Now Extinct Existed Before the Flood—The heights were crowned with trees more majestic than any that now exist.—Patriarchs and Prophets, 44. {EGWSRGES 43.4}

The Quality of Antediluvian Wood; Antediluvian Giants—The trees far surpassed in size, beauty, and perfect proportion, any now to be found; their wood was of fine grain and hard substance, closely resembling stone, and hardly less enduring....There were many giants, men of great stature and strength, renowned for wisdom, skillful in devising the most cunning and wonderful works.—Patriarchs and Prophets, 90. {EGWSRGES 43.5}

Fossils and Artifacts from Antediluvian Times—Bones of men and animals are found in the earth, in mountains and in valleys, showing that much larger men and beasts once lived upon the earth. I was shown that very large, powerful animals existed before the flood which do not now exist. Instruments of warfare are sometimes found; also petrified wood. Because the bones of human beings and of animals found in the earth are much larger than those of men and animals now living, or that have existed for many generations past, some conclude that the world is older than we have any scriptural record of, and was populated long before the record of creation by a race of beings vastly superior in size to men now upon the earth.—Spiritual Gifts 3:92-93. (The Spirit of Prophecy 1:87-88.) {EGWSRGES 43.6}

Antediluvian Men and Animals Buried by the Flood—God so ordered that men, beasts, and trees, many times larger than those now upon the earth, and other things, should be buried in the earth at the time of the flood, and there be preserved to evidence to man that the inhabitants of the old world perished by a flood. God designed that the discovery of these things in the earth should establish the faith of men in inspired history.—Spiritual Gifts 3:95. (The Spirit of Prophecy 1:90.) {EGWSRGES 43.7}

Fossils and Artifacts Buried by the Flood—Bones of men and animals, as well as instruments of warfare, petrified trees, et cetera, much larger than any that now exist, or that have existed for thousands of years, have been discovered, and from this it is inferred that the earth was populated long before the time brought to view in the record of creation, and by a race of beings vastly superior in size to any men now living.—Patriarchs and Prophets, 112. {EGWSRGES 44.1}

Explanation for Fossils Found in the Earth—It is true that remains found in the earth testify to the existence of men, animals, and plants much larger than any now known. These are regarded as proving the existence of vegetable and animal life prior to the time of the Mosaic record. But concerning these things Bible history furnished ample explanation. Before the flood, the development of vegetable and animal life was immeasurably superior to that which has since been known. At the flood the surface of the earth was broken up, marked changes took place, and in the re-formation of the earth’s crust were preserved many evidences of the life previously existing.—Education, 129. {EGWSRGES 44.2}

Antediluvian Arts Buried by Waters of the Flood—The worldly churches cannot read a “Thus saith the Lord,” in regard to the seventh-day Sabbath; and why?—because they are wise in their own conceits; because they are following the example of men who were only one step from the Eden of God, and who, because of their mental and moral capabilities, began to work out their human inventions, and worship the things their hands had made, supposing that they were improving upon God’s plans and devices. In this they worshipped and extolled themselves. [Genesis 6:5-8, 11-13, 17, 18 quoted.] {EGWSRGES 44.3}

There perished in the flood greater inventions of art and human skill than the world knows of today. The arts destroyed were more than the boasted arts of today. The great gifts with which God had endowed man were perverted. There was gold and silver in abundance, and men were constantly seeking to exceed their fellow men in devices. The result was that violence was upon the earth. The Lord was forgotten. This long-lived race were constantly devising how they might contend with the universe of heaven and gain possession of Eden. {EGWSRGES 44.4}

Interesting. I had not noticed that before.

That was a quote I had never seen before. Wow. Thank you, Rick, for these awesome quotes! Imagine--the antediluvians trying to gain possession of Eden through their inventions and devisings!

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

CERN (from the French title - Council European for Research Nuclear) which operates the world's largest nuclear particle accelerator originally mainly focused its research on nuclear science. They still do ostensibly but the intention in recent years has shifted to penetrating the secrets of the universe, identifying the matter/energy that appears to be driving the universe and ultimately tap into the underlying universal forces that control time, space and matter and to use these for human ends. It is not unlike the antediluvian quest to regain access to the tree of life.

CERN also has the distinction of being the birthplace of the World Wide Web or simply, the Web. It is almost hard to believe that the Web was born only 28 years ago in 1991. Not to be confused with the Internet, the Web is the system and standards for sharing information whereas the Internet is the infrastructure of global networks that the Web runs on.

That there be one of those things that one has to take with a big bag of salt. The Bible does not portray such a desire among the antediluvians. In fact, quite the opposite:

• When Cain killed Abel and God confronted him, "[he] went out from the Lord’s presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden." Gen. 4:16. He turned his back, left and became the father of the daughters of men.
   
• After Abel had been murdered, Seth was born in place of him; and then, as it is written, "people began to call on the name of the Lord." v. 26 He became the father of the sons of God.

The desire in humanity was NOT to return to Eden or to try to conquer the place or to besiege and seize it. We know this because of the direction in which the affection of the antediluvians tended. "Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose." Gen. 6:1-2

The tendency was obviously AWAY from God, from all that He represented, including the Garden of Eden. It is easy to see the same attitude and worldview in modern times. No one leaves the Church in such disillusion and with such resentment as to foster a desire for it. The entire premise of the promise of the serpent was that humanity neither needed God nor anything that He had to offer. "You will not surely die," the serpent said. "For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.... Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown." Gen. 3:4-5; Gen. 6:4b The only person that had any desire for Church (aka the Garden of Eden) was Noah. "Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.... But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord." Gen. 6:4-8

Look at Europe today for an example of this. Europeans have become so secular that the previously ornate and magnificent golden ecclesiastical edifices have been left to rot or turned into museums for works of art and relics of a bygone era that evoke nothing but empty nostalgia. But in the midst of the storm-tossed sea of humanity over there, a few still cling to the plank that is God, holding on for dear life and to all that He has promised.

Do you remember after Noah and his family were saved what they did? They abandoned the ark of God, completely turned their backs against it and went off to build their own tower of salvation, except for the seed of Shem. There's nothing new under the sun and what was before, is before our very eyes. And this is how we know the truth with keen discernment.

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James,

Perhaps you forget that the Garden of Eden was a lovely, attractive place, likely the best real estate in the area, and apparently defended by a small heavenly guard--just an angel at each entrance. Furthermore, if you want the elixir of eternal life, it is there to be had from the Tree of Life in the garden. Imagine--if you could just take control of it, and if you had a monopoly on it, you could soon own virtually the entire planet.

And these were men who lived centuries-long lives in which to scheme up their devices.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Did you notice the dearth of scriptural evidence FOR THE DESIRE TO CONQUER in your post? To believe smooth sounding words because it sounds reasonable, in spite of reality to the contrary, is to walk right into the trap set by the serpent.

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Very fascinating. Wonder if that is why the planet exploded where the astroid belt now exists?