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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019 [Re: Daryl] #190275
07/31/19 08:56 PM
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Jesus is the only one who lived a perfect and sinless life on this earth, which is why He alone is able to remove our filthy garments (our unrighteousness) and replace them with His perfectly clean garments (His perfect righteousness).


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

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John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019 [Re: Daryl] #190276
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Originally Posted by Daryl
Jesus is the only one who lived a perfect and sinless life on this earth, which is why He alone is able to remove our filthy garments (our unrighteousness) and replace them with His perfectly clean garments (His perfect righteousness).

Is this not forgiveness? If somebody does you wrong but sincerely asks for forgiveness and you forgive them completely, haven't you replaced their wrong (the "filthy" way they appeared to you) with your good graces (into which they return)? And if God graciously forgives us, aren't we obligated to do the same to others?

As you can see, salvation is not about perfection but about mercy. We were already condemned from Adam down and no amount of pointing out any good deed qualifies us. As Jesus said that except we forgive, we shall not be forgiven.

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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019 [Re: Daryl] #190425
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We should strive towards sin so we can be shown more mercy?

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This week's study is on worship.

http://www.ssnet.org/lessons/19c/less06.html

What is true worship???


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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019 [Re: Daryl] #190443
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True worship is not just something that happens during a religious ritual.

True worship is also about living a life that shares God?s concerns for the well-being of others and that seeks to lift up those who have been downtrodden and forgotten.


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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019 [Re: kland] #190465
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Originally Posted by kland
We should strive towards sin so we can be shown more mercy?

I put you in the hands of Paul: "And why not say, 'Let us do evil that good may come'? -- as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say. Their condemnation is just." Rom. 3:8

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From Adam Clarke Bible Commentary:

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Romans 3:8

Apostle. And not rather, etc. - And why do you not say, seeing you assume this ground, that in all cases we should do wickedly, because God, by freely pardoning, can so glorify his own grace? This is a most impious sentiment, but it follows from your reasoning; it has, indeed, been most injuriously laid to the charge of us apostles, who preach the doctrine of free pardon, through faith, without the merit of works; but this is so manifest a perversion of the truth that a just punishment may be expected to fall on the propagators of such a slander.


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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019 [Re: James Peterson] #190487
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We should strive towards sin so we can be shown more mercy?

I put you in the hands of Paul: "And why not say, 'Let us do evil that good may come'? -- as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say. Their condemnation is just." Rom. 3:8

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What do you think Paul is saying there? Do you think he is suggesting that our goal is to NOT do evil?

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Originally Posted by Daryl
From Adam Clarke Bible Commentary:

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Romans 3:8

Apostle. And not rather, etc. - And why do you not say, seeing you assume this ground, that in all cases we should do wickedly, because God, by freely pardoning, can so glorify his own grace? This is a most impious sentiment, but it follows from your reasoning; it has, indeed, been most injuriously laid to the charge of us apostles, who preach the doctrine of free pardon, through faith, without the merit of works; but this is so manifest a perversion of the truth that a just punishment may be expected to fall on the propagators of such a slander.


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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019 [Re: kland] #190493
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Originally Posted by kland
Originally Posted by James Peterson
Originally Posted by kland
We should strive towards sin so we can be shown more mercy?

I put you in the hands of Paul: "And why not say, 'Let us do evil that good may come'? -- as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say. Their condemnation is just." Rom. 3:8

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What do you think Paul is saying there? Do you think he is suggesting that our goal is to NOT do evil?

I put you in the hands of Jesus Christ:

  • Then Peter came to Him and said, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?" Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven."
     
  • Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents. But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made. The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, 'Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.' Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt.

    But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, 'Pay me what you owe!' So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, 'Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.' And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt. So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done.

    Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, 'You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?' And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him.
     
  • So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses.

    --- Mat. 18:21-35


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It is VERY important to understand what Jesus is saying here since no one is perfect. And if no one is perfect then the ticket to heaven comes down to the mercy, forgiveness and grace we extend to others. To stress on the LAW is sheer hypocrisy, but to love, and love sincerely, will be your glory.

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