Your quote I listed was an absolute objective statement.
With your "As I continued to study, the possibility...." type of weasel waffling, hence my



Henry, would you say that what would be safe for us to conclude is the following?

Any time you make an absolute objective time statement, we can firmly rest assured that your "continued study" will lead you to change your mind about it -- to yet another absolute objective time statement. (repeat)

kland'

We are at the end of the road.
President Trump will be broken (impeached)
President Michael Pence (will go to war with Iran...it will climax at Armageddon)
President Michael Pence will implement the National Sunday Law 2 April 2020.
(I'm still studying the event and date but the evidence...before it happens looks solid)

And Christ will Come during President Michael Pence's reign

I do not know when. A day, a year or 2300 days later?

But as my studies have continued, this is what I know today.
If you find out something that I have yet to learn, please share it with me.

If you want to be a skeptic, that is you choice.
If you want to Proclaim the 3rd Angel's Message by giving it the right sound
you must know about Michael Pence.

His Child, you are sadly self-deceived and a deceiver. Michael Pence is not part of the Third Angel's message. That message is one of obedience to God's law, and has nothing to do with any arm of flesh.

Your continued prognostications here come in violation of Mrs. White's instruction against time setting. She informed us clearly that after 1844 there was to be no definite time given in our message. Your date setting is, therefore, unScriptural. You have deceived yourself, and I expect that your dates for the NSL will pass uneventfully.

Henry, do you know what is important? It's not a matter of dates. The date that is most important is the one we will know the least about: probation's close. Be ready every day for that. You won't know on which day your Lord comes to judge you. His coming in judgment will be as a thief in the night--completely unlike His coming in glory, in which every eye will see Him and a trumpet will sound that wakes the dead.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Did you not say that about Obama.
Trump.
Pence.

Who's the next one you'll say that about?
Do you see yourself as Ron Wyatt - a pattern of error and self-deceit?

I too, believe we are sitting on the very edge of earth's time.
What should our focus be? What is the third angel's message???



The part concerning the beast and his image are simply to warn us that strong forces, papal and protestant will arise with political force to wrest us away from the true message. And yes, those forces are rising, no question!!! But the people who sit as figure heads of those forces change continually -- it's not dependent on the figure head of those forces -- the forces continue even when the figure head is replaced. And the worst enemies against truth may not even be political. Yet, even if His Child is eventually correct as to who the last president is, that will NOT save anyone. All his speculations only place the focus on individuals and really makes a mockery of prophecy, as his private interpretations fail time and again. It does not show the real third angels message nor does it offer salvation.

What will save is a deeper knowledge and experience with our Savior, understanding justification through faith in Him, receiving the gift of His righteousness, walking with Him in righteousness and obedience to His commands. Standing in full surrender and allegiance with the Lamb of God no matter if conditions are comfortable or terrible -- no matter if people are tolerant or threaten ones very life.

So many of those who accept the First and Second Angels' Messages
Accept what they can rationalize as having been fulfilled in the past.
They are going by sight rather than faith!
This is a significant problem.
Thus, they will accept the first 2 and reject the third!
When faith is needed to finish the work: Woe to them.







In a broader sense the world church has rejected laying on of hands upon women ministers. Faith in the word of God that states that Christ has made His people "kings and priests" The word is twisted to say that only men will be saved because women cannot be kings and priests!



Rejection of the Third Angel's Message rejects knowing that President Trump will be broken, President Michael Pence will be the apostate "Protestant Republican" leader of the USA that will implement the Mark of the Beast. The warning is given in plenty of time to allow the people to prepare for what is ahead, but it is rejected. The commandment of Jesus states clearly DO NOT BUY AND SELL UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE BEAST. So Satan tells the church that it is not important to know who the allies of the beast will be in the endtime who are going to bring this trouble upon us.

When knowing the duration of the Judgment Hours of the dead and living and that the final sealing time has begun, Satan would have dedicated church members not believe the message because of a misinterpretation of the testimonies that he has put into the church since 1844. And when faith is needed to move forward, seeing things out of focus blocks going forward by faith.

Limiting the meaning of the third angel's message to the Sabbath question is a deception that will kill many professed Christians.



For teachers to teach the word of God correctly, they must understand it.

...It is great to believe God's prophets, but lip service will not save anyone. God gave us Bible study and the Holy Spirit is God's interpreter of God's message to His people. Thus, to preach the First and Second Angel's message, while refusing the Third angel's message will doom the false shepherds no matter how much they profess to believe His prophets!

...God has ordained that the 3rd Angel's Message should finish the work in power. The message simply stated is: God's people must obey God's commandment to refuse to take the Mark of the Beast! The beast is known, its apostasy is revealed, the time of the message at the end of the Judgment Hour of the Living is known, and the lamblike horns on the earth beast are identified.

...There is no need for anyone to be deceived about the principle parties identified in the 3rd angel's endtime message that identifies those who oppose God's message for His people. But the rejection of truth is so prevalent in the Church that many are deceiving themselves and our leaders are leading the saints much like they did in 1888 contrary to the Word of God.

...These simple truths (along with others) should be known and taught!


...If those who claim to believe His prophets refuse to hear the truth that the prophets have declared? when the prophecy is in the process of being fulfilled, God is not at fault, Bible students that have studied and prayed and struggled to understand the warning and to get the brethren to look at the details and to join the study are not at fault, but those who have rejected the 3rd angel's message will be responsible for casting their shadow over the Word of God and they will reap what they sow.

...There is still time to study to show ourselves approved of God and to be like the Bereans. But the final minutes of our probation are fast drawing to a close and Christ will soon leave Heaven's Sanctuary.? The parable of the 10 virgins will come upon us and those who are wise will enter the joy of our Lord while the foolish will see too late too late their folly.

...Why be like those in Noah's day who refused to enter the ark? Why be like those in the wilderness who refused to look upon the brass serpent on the pole? Why not see how God has led His people with time prophecy in our past history? Why wait until the curse of the Laodiceans is fulfilled upon those who are blind? that refuse to buy eyesalve and are rejected by Christ?

Those who reject the proclamation of the 3rd Angel's message by faith before it is a reality,
cannot receive the blessing promised at the end of the 1335 Days in Daniel 12.

I have fought the fight, the battle is nearly over, and it is up to the Holy Spirit to sift the chaff from the wheat
and to seal the saints to meet our Lord Jesus Christ, Judgment will begin at the House of God!

Ended? Really?

Guess we don't need to worry any more. We are already judged so nothing we can do about it.
Eat, drink, and be merry!
Thank you, His Child, for setting us at ease.

Another example of total miscommunication, sorry

I started this thread with this fascinating quote:

I said this quote identifies that time when the judgment of the living turns to the world. The unrolling of the scroll as pictured in Revelation 5 and 6 has its parallel in Daniel 7 where the court sits and the books (the scroll) is opened.

One thought that just occurred to me recently is that the unrolling of the scroll also promises to be a time of prophetic enlightenment; that as this scroll is unrolled there will be a flood of light that flashes from the throne of God on the ancient prophecies, especially on Daniel 8 to 12 which is the little book that is open in the hand of the angel of Revelation 10.

For years I've puzzled over why Ellen White never referred to the time elements in the prophecies that she herself placed in the future. She consistently held that prophetic time ended in 1844 and I have no doubt that she was instructed by the Holy Spirit on that point.

That prohibition against time setting will always be in effect imo. But, according to Daniel 12:9 the wise will understand these prophecies at the unrolling of the scroll, the prophetic book.

That would be consistent with the inspired message in Revelation 10 that time shall be no longer. It is no longer because the wicked will not understand these periods, but the wise will understand them when the scroll is unrolled so that the wise can read it. The prophecies regarding the mark of the beast which Ellen White says we still do not fully understand will be understood then. This is the warning of Christ regarding the abomination of desolation contained in Daniel 12 that Ellen White says we need to study and understand.

What do you all think?