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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019
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08/13/19 01:27 AM
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True worship is not just something that happens during a religious ritual.
True worship is also about living a life that shares God?s concerns for the well-being of others and that seeks to lift up those who have been downtrodden and forgotten. I think you mean, rather, that the effectual working out of wholeheartedly worshiping God is a life that shows genuine concern for the well-being of others .... But your point is taken. ///
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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019
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It is VERY important to understand what Jesus is saying here since no one is perfect. And if no one is perfect then the ticket to heaven comes down to the mercy, forgiveness and grace we extend to others. To stress on the LAW is sheer hypocrisy, but to love, and love sincerely, will be your glory.
Yes! We shouldn't stress on the LAW without regard to love, mercy, forgiveness, and grace. But at the same time, should we stress NOT the law? Does part of having love, mercy, forgiveness, and grace mean we EMBRACE the law?
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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019
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It is VERY important to understand what Jesus is saying here since no one is perfect. And if no one is perfect then the ticket to heaven comes down to the mercy, forgiveness and grace we extend to others. To stress on the LAW is sheer hypocrisy, but to love, and love sincerely, will be your glory.
Yes! We shouldn't stress on the LAW without regard to love, mercy, forgiveness, and grace. But at the same time, should we stress NOT the law? Does part of having love, mercy, forgiveness, and grace mean we EMBRACE the law? Why would you EMBRACE something that seeks to put you down and see you die? Rather, reach for that which gives life: GRACE. A good example was set by Job who, it was said, "would rise early in the morning and offer burnt offerings according to the number of [his children]. For Job said, It may be that [they] have sinned and cursed God in their hearts. Thus Job did regularly." Job 1:5 In Job, a way was made for his children to live. Think of it as being caught in the midst of a storm out at sea, clinging to a floating blank far away from any coast. You can swim to a shore, however long it takes you; but what if a boat came by and offered to take you home? Would you cry out that you can swim and swim you will? I think not! As Peter urges us, "And above all things have fervent love for one another, for love will cover a multitude of sins." 1 Pet. 4;8 ///
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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019
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And it's back to: We should strive towards sin so we can be shown more mercy?
I put you in the hands of Paul: "And why not say, 'Let us do evil that good may come'? -- as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say. Their condemnation is just." Rom. 3:8 /// What do you think Paul is saying there? Do you think he is suggesting that our goal is to NOT do evil? Me thinks you are against honoring the Sabbath. Am I correct?
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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019
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And it's back to: We should strive towards sin so we can be shown more mercy?
I put you in the hands of Paul: "And why not say, 'Let us do evil that good may come'? -- as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say. Their condemnation is just." Rom. 3:8 /// What do you think Paul is saying there? Do you think he is suggesting that our goal is to NOT do evil? Me thinks you are against honoring the Sabbath. Am I correct? Which is more important: honoring a day or doing good every day?
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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019
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Both are important, however, honouring a day that God has commanded us to honour over the other six days is obviously more important. Sabbath means rest. In Canada, all public servants are given two sabbaths every week. The fourth commandment, therefore, has been superseded, made negligible by the addition of another day. It is like whereas in some countries, there is a water shortage and the government rations the water supply saying 3 gallons per day; but in Canada, water flows, it just flows ... that law of 3 gallons per day is alien to us. We are better off than that. Everyday is holy, at least it ought to be for those who are holy, but some days are holydays, i.e. commemorative of something. And therefore, one should take the time during the weekly sabbath(s) to reflect on God and His blessings just like Adam and Eve must have done on that first sabbath day.
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