Two days ago I watched a You Tube video of a young Chinese man in Wuhan describing conditions there. Public order is still in place but the anxiety in his voice was palpable. He thought the situation was being mismanaged but felt helpless to change it.

Without going into it, from the evidence I've seen, there is a good possibility this will be as large as the 1918 Spanish Flue. For the purpose of this thread, let's assume that it is and that it takes a course in the average person similar to the Spanish Flue. How should we respond individually and collectively when it hits our country and communities?

Specifically, what do you think of the Chinese approach. I think quarantining entire cities is right and attempting to keep the sick within the city quarantined makes sense but I think that life should go on as normal for those who are well. It seems to me that keeping everyone locked down and indoors in their little apartments except to get food is a recipe for disaster. Once the disease has a clear hold on a population center I think it has to take its course. From what I've seen of Wuhan, If they aren't careful it will not be long before authorities loose control of the situation and people will take to the streets and public order will break down.

Besides the macro questions a main purpose of the thread is to share with each other some practical advice about simple hydro therapies to reduce fevers, to boost immunity before the symptoms worsen, avoiding infection etc.

During the 1918 flue there were some Adventist medical folk in Michigan who save every case of Spanish Flue that they treated using, if I remember right, a wet sheet wrap treatment.

By the way, I've always wondered what would bring about the conditions Ellen White predicts that those in the cities will be trapped in them. Quarantine seems to be the answer. I heard today that China has reinforced its travel ban from the infected areas by not only road blocks but dumping earth across highways.

I don't think quarantine of an entire city is the wisest plan. I think such draconian measures feed into the devil's plan of force and control for all and sundry. And they aren't effective. It has been reported in the news that nearly half of the city's population of 11 million plus left the city of Wuhan before the travel restriction was put in place. Thousands of them have gone to other countries, including at least seven thousand to Thailand where a number of cases of the virus have surfaced. Basically, if the people are afraid that a quarantine will be imposed, the disease is destined to spread the more widely.

Psalm 91 is the Christian's defense. We have no need to live in fear.

As for practical measures to handle the disease, I would suggest the following:

1) Do not overwork, and be sure to get adequate rest.
2) Do not overeat, and eat nutritious foods.
3) Get some sunshine and fresh air.
4) Top up the body's levels of vitamin C and B-complex vitamins, both water-soluble, via supplements.
5) Drink sufficient water.

If, after those have been done, and one still falls ill, don't try to reduce the fever artificially via medicine, e.g. Aspirin, Tylenol/Paracetamol, etc. Unless the fever exceeds about 106 degrees Fahrenheit (41 degrees Celsius), there's no need to try to bring it down by unnatural means. Fasting would be a natural method, and acceptable in some cases--but be sure while avoiding food to remain hydrated with good water.

Getting the sickness is far, far from a death sentence. Only a small percentage of those who are falling ill are dying, essentially comprising those weakest in health.

I think I may have had it at Christmastime. Keep in mind, I am much nearer to this virus than most anyone else on the forum. I chose not to go to the hospital for the virus itself, though I did go to the hospital to have my airway checked when I had bouts with something like gagging that prevented me at random moments from being able to inhale. That particular symptom may be unrelated to the Wuhan virus, and have more to do with some other as-yet undiagnosed condition, e.g. Hashimoto's disease. But the virus certainly caused pneumonia, with strong coughing fits, during which I occasionally tasted blood. The entire course of the illness spanned about three weeks, with the worst symptoms lasting about a week of that.

Entire schools are being shut down in my region on account of illness, but in most cases the students are not being tested to see what it is. In multiple locations, over half of the student population has fallen ill--but I haven't heard of any mortality on account of it.

The biggest threat in most of these scenarios is that of succumbing to fear. Fear is more to be dreaded than the virus. God has not given us the spirit of fear, but of power, of love, and of a sound mind.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

GC, you are likely right about the quarantine being ineffective in Wuhan. People leaving before was widespread apparently. Authorities around the world are watching this unfold and one result may be that quarantining cities will be so swift in the future that there will be little opportunity to flee.

I wrote to an experienced doctor here in America to get her opinion on letting the disease take it's course where it already has hold and for some practical advice. She agreed that life should go on once the pandemic takes hold on a region. Regarding practical measures she said:



If it is the weak who are the most vulnerable to the Coronavirus then the outcome may be better than the Spanish Flue. In the case of the Spanish Flue it actually was more deadly among youth and young adults who apparently had less immunity built up.

The problem with viruses is that they mutate quickly so the course this takes is unpredictable but like GC stresses, there is no need to panic. We just need to act intelligently on what we know trusting in the Lord.

Wuhan looks like one of those apocalyptic videos with everyone missing..

"'People Are Afraid': Eerie Footage Shows How Coronavirus Outbreak Has Left Wuhan Streets Deserted"

https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-wuhan-deserted-video-footage-outbreak-disease-1484555

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...wuhan-pneumonia-virus-epicentre-12362386

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...ns-trapped-in-coronavirus-city-t8j88q2ml

Let's create vaccines by incubating viruses in bird eggs, pigs, monkeys, insects, and see what happens!

As your post suggests, that is already being done. I think people do not realize what's in their vaccines. Adventists, of all people, should be staunchest among the so-called anti-vaxxers, considering that the vaccines put unclean animals, fat, blood, etc. that are "abominations" directly into the body, bypassing even the stomach. What they put in those vaccines is so bad, it's reminiscent of that horrible children's song that speaks of having great mounds of "greasy, grimy, gopher guts" "mutilated monkey meat," etc. and finding that one has forgotten his spoon!

I might have to start a new thread on this one. Suffice it to say, I will positively NOT be first in line for the coronavirus vaccine when it comes out. I'll fight getting the jab every bit as much as I would fight being forced to eat pork.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Every much as Christ is NOT the Father as EGW writes????

Seems the pharmaceuticals may not be in a as much a hurry as one would think..
https://www.barrons.com/articles/coronavirus-the-latest-problem-big-pharma-wont-solve-51581078600

Interesting. Here's a chance to make money and they aren't going for it.
Is that because they know vaccines do not prevent disease and this would be a case where it'd become apparent while flu vaccine results are not so apparent so they go for that.

No vaccines have ever prevented disease.

But that is a very bold statement because vaccines have not been tested to prevent disease. So how could one know. They've only tested to see if they kill too many people too quickly.

Here is some enlightening info from Del Bigtree, concerning the Coronavirus and the coming mandatory vaccination program!

https://youtu.be/PZIKikFD4q8