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Should Churches Close Because Of Pandemic?
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03/20/20 04:14 AM
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Do you agree or disagree that churches should close during the pandemic? Is this a precursor to religious persecution? https://youtu.be/PtfOe4senKg
"...I will not forget you. Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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Re: Should Churches Close Because Of Pandemic?
[Re: ProdigalOne]
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03/20/20 10:34 AM
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I think we should meet in small groups till this is resolved, that would be prudent. We knew it would get to this...
"But the path got more narrow. They had to press close to the wall, to save from falling off the narrow road down the steep cliff. Now the bundles on the horses pressed on the wall and pushed them towards the cliff, they feared to fall and be dashed in pieces on the rocks so they cut the luggage from the horses, and it fell over the cliff.
They now went on horseback, afraid as they came to the narrower places in the road, to loose their balance and fall. At such times a hand seemed to take the bridle and guide over the risky way. But the path grew narrower; they could no longer go with safety on horseback, and left the horses and went on foot, in single file, one following in the footsteps of another.
Now small cords were let down from the top of the pure white wall; these they gladly grasped, to help keep their balance on the path. The cords moved along with them.
Still the path got more narrow and they thought they could travel more safely without shoes, so they took them off. Soon it was decided that they could travel more safely without stockings; these were removed, and they went on with bare feet.
They then thought of those who were not used to hardships. Where were they now? They were not in the company. At every change some were left behind, and those only kept going who learned to endure hardships. The difficult way only made these more eager to press on to the end.
The danger of falling off increased. They pressed close to the white wall, yet there wasn't room to put their feet fully on the path, for it was too narrow. Now they began to put nearly their whole weight on the cords, saying: "We have hold from above! We have hold from above!" They all said this. They could hear noises from the bottom of the steep cliff, laughing and worldly music; bad words and dirty jokes; war songs and dance songs; and cursing, cries, wails and loud laughter. They were so anxious to stay on that narrow path!
Now they depended more on the cords, which grew as they went on. Ellen saw the beautiful white wall was stained with blood. She felt sad to see it but then felt it was all as it should be. Those who are following after will know that others have passed the narrow, difficult way before them, and that they can do the same. As the blood shall be pressed from their aching feet, they will not faint and give up; but, seeing the blood upon the wall, they will know that others have endured the same pain.
Finally the path ended at a drop-off. They was no path for their feet at all. But by now they were mostly hanging to the cords, which had grown to be almost as big as their bodies. For a while they were afraid. 'What is holding the cords'? they asked. They were having a hard struggle, if they failed now, all the hard journey would be for nothing"...https://www.ellenwhitedefend.com/children%27s/visions_&_dreams.htm
Last edited by Rick H; 03/20/20 11:49 PM.
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Re: Should Churches Close Because Of Pandemic?
[Re: ProdigalOne]
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03/21/20 01:42 AM
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Here is some wisdom from Doug Batchelor. "Hoarding Food For The Coming Storm" https://youtu.be/fnP9VxuQgwo
"...I will not forget you. Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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Re: Should Churches Close Because Of Pandemic?
[Re: ProdigalOne]
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03/21/20 01:11 PM
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It's not so much a question of "should we avoid meeting together in large groups in enclosed areas" (which church meetings are) when there is a probability of infection. It's probably wise to stay away for the duration. The question that concerns me is -- what is government making of this? If, in a couple weeks all things return to normal -- and no freedoms are compromised -- no new restrictive laws are passed and implemented etc. etc. then it was just a precaution. BUT The question high on our minds is "what is government making of this? Crises tend to be exploited to further control and reduce freedoms. After Covid 19 - the climate agenda will be easy to enforce?Covid just what climate change needsSo what is climate change agenda? "Big Government makes a comeback" There's talk of giving up our freedoms for the "good of society". And you can also find that Sunday closure is mentioned in climate change talk.
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Re: Should Churches Close Because Of Pandemic?
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03/21/20 10:05 PM
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Last edited by APL; 03/21/20 10:06 PM.
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Should Churches Close Because Of Pandemic?
[Re: ProdigalOne]
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03/22/20 06:51 PM
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The Province of Nova Scotia has declared a State of Emergency in which gatherings are now to be no more than five persons. If you drive out of province, when you return you are to self-isolate for 14 days. Only one person in the family can go grocery shopping. Six foot distance from the other person MUST be maintained. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw0XtrCIt2Y
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Re: Should Churches Close Because Of Pandemic?
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03/24/20 05:36 PM
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There are 28 positive cases of #COVID19 in NS, ranging in age from late-teens to mid-70?s. To date, Nova Scotia has 28 positive test results and 2088 negative cases.
28? Wonder what the 2088 negative cases are about. 28? This is sad. Reimagine it with a twist, about global warming or even virus, etc. If they were talking about how failing to worship on sunday is putting the country at risk, that we must do these things to save the world, blah, blah, blah. Hope people remember this the next election. Unfortunately, the people will say, please save us oh government. 'Give me life, or take away my liberties!'
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Re: Should Churches Close Because Of Pandemic?
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03/26/20 09:46 AM
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Past Flu (CNN)An estimated 80,000 Americans died of flu and its complications last winter [2017-2018], according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
In previous seasons, flu-related deaths have ranged from a low of about 12,000 during the 2011-2012 season to a high of about 56,000 during the 2012-2013.
Additionally, the nation experienced a record-breaking estimated 900,000 hospitalizations last flu season.
CDC: Estimated influenza disease burden, by age group ? United States, 2014-2015 influenza season Deaths: 51,376
Estimated influenza disease burden, by age group ? United States, 2015-2016 influenza season Deaths: 22,705
Table 1: Estimated influenza disease burden, by age group ? United States, 2016-2017 influenza season Deaths: 38,230
Table 1: Estimated influenza disease burden, by age group ? United States, 2017-2018 influenza season Deaths: 61,099
Table 1: Estimated influenza disease burden, by age group ? United States, 2018-2019 influenza season Deaths: 34,157
Current flu CBSNews Updated on: March 23, 2020 Worldwide, the number of coronavirus cases has increased to more than 329,000 and the number of deaths has topped 14,000, according to Johns Hopkins University.
indiatimes.com World leaders are to hold online crisis talks Thursday on the coronavirus pandemic that has forced three billion people into lockdown and claimed more than 21,000 lives. 26 Mar, 2020, 11:42AM IST
wikipedia As of 26 March, more than 489,000 cases of COVID-19 have been reported in over 190 countries and territories, resulting in approximately 22,100 deaths and more than 118,000 recoveries.[4][5]
What am I missing here? The hype? ....
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