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Re: Coronavirus - potential impacts [Re: Charity] #192033
03/11/20 11:56 AM
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From CDC:

One person dies every 37 seconds.

About 647,000 Americans die from [the disease] each year.

[one type of the disease] Killing 365,914 people in 2017.

About 18.2 million adults age 20 and older have [the disease].


Oh wait, that's for heart disease.
A mostly preventable disease.
And no one seems very much concerned about it.

Now how many are dying from this coronavirus....?
Why am I having a trouble jumping on the hype wagon.

Re: Coronavirus - potential impacts [Re: Charity] #192037
03/12/20 12:03 PM
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Its not looking good for the economy...
"Dow plummets, trading briefly suspended after Trump's coronavirus response sparks market sell-off

The Dow fell 2,000 points and the S&P plummeted by 7 percent, marking the second time on Thursday that trading was temporarily suspended."....
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/ma...d-after-trump-s-crisis-response-n1156406

"The Dow Is Spiraling Because a Pandemic, Oil Rout and Election Year Have Never Happened at the Same Time"...
https://www.barrons.com/articles/do...andemic-oil-flu-sars-history-51584028220

"Dow falls 10 percent in brutal day for markets

It is the worst day for the Dow since the 1987 crash."......
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/ma...d-after-trump-s-crisis-response-n1156406

Last edited by Rick H; 03/12/20 04:40 PM.
Re: Coronavirus - potential impacts [Re: Charity] #192042
03/13/20 07:51 AM
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Prime Minister Trudeau?s wife, Sophie has tested positive for Coronavirus! The Prime Minister is self quarantined!
President Trump has banned all travel from Europe! https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/coro...in-canada-and-around-the-world-1.5496334


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Coronavirus - potential impacts [Re: kland] #192147
03/28/20 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by kland
From CDC:

One person dies every 37 seconds.

About 647,000 Americans die from [the disease] each year.

[one type of the disease] Killing 365,914 people in 2017.

About 18.2 million adults age 20 and older have [the disease].


Oh wait, that's for heart disease.
A mostly preventable disease.
And no one seems very much concerned about it.

Now how many are dying from this coronavirus....?
Why am I having a trouble jumping on the hype wagon.



Se what you said there? A mostly preventable disease. Well, then this is different, isn't it? It reminds me of polio, kind of.

As for vaccines, if they offer one, I'll take it.

We can scream all we want to about the end being near, and that we need to flee.

\Nope.
What we need to do, besides pray and do what we are asked within reason, is if/when we once again get to meet as a church, is to get it together, big time. This whole thing happened really fast. And I know darn good and well, and so do all of you that we have failed miserably as a church. to get the message out. The time for laxity is over.
Salvation shall be preached into all the world by someone, if not us. This is our church's mission. Do we want to be a part of it?


I am not worthy of the least of all the mercies, and of all the truth, which Thou hast shewed unto Thy servant;...
Gen 32:10
Re: Coronavirus - potential impacts [Re: Charity] #192150
03/28/20 07:56 PM
03/28/20 07:56 PM
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I agree, we have NOT given the message the way we should.

I know people are setting up prayer groups pleading with God to give us a little more time, to do the work.

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The work which the church has failed to do in a time of peace and prosperity, she will have to do in a terrible crisis, under most discouraging, forbidding, circumstances. The warnings that worldly conformity has silenced or withheld, must be given under the fiercest opposition from enemies of the faith. 5T 463


As to a vaccine -- I would NOT recommend it.
not only do they put a lot of potentially harmful stuff into them but they are setting up a program to track people through vaccination (oh they deny the tracking, but it's obvious they are implanting your identification, medical records and who knows what else into you with the vaccine).
ID2020 and partners launch program to provide digital ID with vaccines

Re: Coronavirus - potential impacts [Re: dedication] #192151
03/28/20 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dedication
I agree, we have NOT given the message the way we should.

I know people are setting up prayer groups pleading with God to give us a little more time, to do the work.

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The work which the church has failed to do in a time of peace and prosperity, she will have to do in a terrible crisis, under most discouraging, forbidding, circumstances. The warnings that worldly conformity has silenced or withheld, must be given under the fiercest opposition from enemies of the faith. 5T 463


As to a vaccine -- I would NOT recommend it.
not only do they put a lot of potentially harmful stuff into them but they are setting up a program to track people through vaccination (oh they deny the tracking, but it's obvious they are implanting your identification, medical records and who knows what else into you with the vaccine).
ID2020 and partners launch program to provide digital ID with vaccines


So, the Mark of the Beast, aka the (Digital) Stamp of the Kingdom/Nation, will come in a vaccine?

No wonder they have been pushing so hard for ALL to get the vaccines!

Food for thought.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Coronavirus - potential impacts [Re: Charity] #192152
03/29/20 12:18 AM
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Flu of 1917, the so called Spanish Flu, was reduced or prevented by diet that our church has promoted since the 1800's, are you listening green?


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Coronavirus - potential impacts [Re: Charity] #192153
03/29/20 07:11 AM
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Coronavirus Cases Confirmed at Andrews University

"The positive persons are both adult women under the age of sixty years old; they have both been self-isolating at home for several days, and they are in good condition. Both of these individuals had close personal contact with singer Sandi Patty when she performed a concert at Andrews University in Berrien Springs on March 8, 2020. Since the concert, Ms. Patty announced that she had tested positive for COVID-19 on March 17, 2020."

https://www.adventistreview.org/chu...us-cases-confirmed-at-andrews-university


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Coronavirus - potential impacts [Re: Theophilus] #192164
03/30/20 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Theophilus

Se what you said there? A mostly preventable disease. Well, then this is different, isn't it? It reminds me of polio, kind of.
So are you saying, that if people are dying from a "preventable disease", that's all ok and no one should be concerned, but if it's non-preventable, then if only a fraction die, then we should be all up in arms?

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As for vaccines, if they offer one, I'll take it.

I have tried to search, but cannot find, a scientific experiment showing that vaccines prevent disease. Can you give some links that are from a controlled experiment?

Re: Coronavirus - potential impacts [Re: kland] #192178
03/31/20 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by kland
Originally Posted by Theophilus

Se what you said there? A mostly preventable disease. Well, then this is different, isn't it? It reminds me of polio, kind of.
So are you saying, that if people are dying from a "preventable disease", that's all ok and no one should be concerned, but if it's non-preventable, then if only a fraction die, then we should be all up in arms?

Quote
As for vaccines, if they offer one, I'll take it.

I have tried to search, but cannot find, a scientific experiment showing that vaccines prevent disease. Can you give some links that are from a controlled experiment?


It is quite revealing that despite numerous requests over the years, the CDC has consistently refused to reveal the numbers of vaccinated people becoming infected versus the numbers of unvaccinated people becoming infected. No costly study would be necessary, merely some number crunching of data already in their possession...


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
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